Comments on: Maureen Dowd On Bush And Cheney—To A Point http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:18:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-169060 kritt11 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:39:18 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/#comment-169060 Rudi- You may be right, but that is not ALL the Democrats are about. Biden's stated agenda is to revive the middle class, and the party has pushed many bills that benefit the regular Joe that were blocked by the Repugs. And Bush went as far as to block a huge settlement that was already in the works in a federal lawsuit against Big Tobacco- stymieing the federal prosecutor. The final result was a slap on the wrist.<br><br>I went to a training given by Obama's Inauguration committee and was told that they turned down Coke's offer of hats and scarves for Inauguration volunteers because of Obama's pledge against using corporate money for the festivities. Rudi- You may be right, but that is not ALL the Democrats are about. Biden's stated agenda is to revive the middle class, and the party has pushed many bills that benefit the regular Joe that were blocked by the Repugs. And Bush went as far as to block a huge settlement that was already in the works in a federal lawsuit against Big Tobacco- stymieing the federal prosecutor. The final result was a slap on the wrist.

I went to a training given by Obama's Inauguration committee and was told that they turned down Coke's offer of hats and scarves for Inauguration volunteers because of Obama's pledge against using corporate money for the festivities.

]]> By: Rudi http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-169058 Rudi Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:27:37 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/#comment-169058 To all my fellow "Liebrals, don't give the Demonocrats any leeway in regards to being Corporotten shills. The New York crowd ignored the Wall Street mess and enabled the process. Joe Biden sold his soul to CC interests in Delaware, a state with dubious credit card banks. To all my fellow “Liebrals, don't give the Demonocrats any leeway in regards to being Corporotten shills. The New York crowd ignored the Wall Street mess and enabled the process. Joe Biden sold his soul to CC interests in Delaware, a state with dubious credit card banks.

]]> By: StockBoySF http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-169046 StockBoySF Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:18:55 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/#comment-169046 kritt, I agree. As far as I can see Bush and Cheney believe that the big corporations (especially oil, tabacco and financial services) should be protected from the average American citizen. They do not believe that the weaker should be protected form the stronger. They believe the stronger should become even stronger. kritt, I agree. As far as I can see Bush and Cheney believe that the big corporations (especially oil, tabacco and financial services) should be protected from the average American citizen. They do not believe that the weaker should be protected form the stronger. They believe the stronger should become even stronger.

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-169041 kritt11 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:46:34 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/#comment-169041 I still believe that Bush and Cheney are both corporate shills- bought and sold by special interests whom they represented to the best of their ability. The ordinary American had to sit by helplessly while the treasury was looted and our international image ruined-- all so these boobs could make good on campaign promises to Big Oil, Big Tobacco, Wall St execs,etc etc. Ken Lay was a big supporter and so was Abramoff before they became too hot to handle.<br><br>Agencies that exist to protect the common good like OSHA and EPA were stymied by political appointees who had a specific agenda- to protect big industrial donors. Massive deregulation and Cheney's decision to allow the oil CEO's to write our energy policy with no input from environmentalists is another example of this. I still believe that Bush and Cheney are both corporate shills- bought and sold by special interests whom they represented to the best of their ability. The ordinary American had to sit by helplessly while the treasury was looted and our international image ruined– all so these boobs could make good on campaign promises to Big Oil, Big Tobacco, Wall St execs,etc etc. Ken Lay was a big supporter and so was Abramoff before they became too hot to handle.

Agencies that exist to protect the common good like OSHA and EPA were stymied by political appointees who had a specific agenda- to protect big industrial donors. Massive deregulation and Cheney's decision to allow the oil CEO's to write our energy policy with no input from environmentalists is another example of this.

]]> By: D. E.Rodriguez http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-169040 D. E.Rodriguez Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:38:23 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/#comment-169040 Good "postulation," JS, and it's OK to "rant" SB<br><br>Dorian Good “postulation,” JS, and it's OK to “rant” SB

Dorian

]]> By: StockBoySF http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-169036 StockBoySF Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:02:57 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/#comment-169036 I'm going to rant for a little bit.... Rush and company support an administration that supports torture, does not uphold the Constitution, laughs at the values of the Founding Fathers, uses loyalty as the highest job qualification (at the expense of the American people), lies to the American people (and the world), rewards political benefactors while squelching any hint of dissent (even in the face of facts), and believes that soldiers are better off sent to a war to die in the name of enriching the administration rather than send soldiers to war to defend against an enemy. Bush claims that the world is better off without Iraq and I agree with him- though that's not a reason to invade Iraq who posed no threat to America. There are worse regimes who do pose real threats to America (let's begin with North Korea which has a nuclear weapon and practically enslaves its men in the military). <br><br>You don't have to agree with Dowd or the Democrats to understand that Bush is a blight on this world and has almost ruined our country. He inherited a budget surplus and has left the company near bankruptcy- just as he did the companies he ran. The Dow has lost around a fifth of its value since he took office and the economy under him as only created a couple million new jobs. Under Clinton the Dow tripled and there was a net increase of some 20-25 million jobs. I'd rather have a Philodendron as president than a Bush. :) I'm going to rant for a little bit…. Rush and company support an administration that supports torture, does not uphold the Constitution, laughs at the values of the Founding Fathers, uses loyalty as the highest job qualification (at the expense of the American people), lies to the American people (and the world), rewards political benefactors while squelching any hint of dissent (even in the face of facts), and believes that soldiers are better off sent to a war to die in the name of enriching the administration rather than send soldiers to war to defend against an enemy. Bush claims that the world is better off without Iraq and I agree with him- though that's not a reason to invade Iraq who posed no threat to America. There are worse regimes who do pose real threats to America (let's begin with North Korea which has a nuclear weapon and practically enslaves its men in the military).

You don't have to agree with Dowd or the Democrats to understand that Bush is a blight on this world and has almost ruined our country. He inherited a budget surplus and has left the company near bankruptcy- just as he did the companies he ran. The Dow has lost around a fifth of its value since he took office and the economy under him as only created a couple million new jobs. Under Clinton the Dow tripled and there was a net increase of some 20-25 million jobs. I'd rather have a Philodendron as president than a Bush. :)

]]> By: JSpencer http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-169034 JSpencer Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:27:55 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/25562/maureen-dowd-on-bush-and-cheney-to-a-point/#comment-169034 I postulate that anyone who is still reluctant (at this late juncture) to admit that W and his minions (and/or puppeteers) were not (for the most part) a rabble of clueless, sociopatic bumblers, is doomed to forever remain in the dark on this particular score. As has been suggested before, these past eight years have likely involved a great deal of discomfort to the founding fathers who were forced to spend most of that time rolling around in their graves. I postulate that anyone who is still reluctant (at this late juncture) to admit that W and his minions (and/or puppeteers) were not (for the most part) a rabble of clueless, sociopatic bumblers, is doomed to forever remain in the dark on this particular score. As has been suggested before, these past eight years have likely involved a great deal of discomfort to the founding fathers who were forced to spend most of that time rolling around in their graves.

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