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		<title>By: TBogg &#187; Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars, And say &#8216;These wounds I had on denial-of-service day.&#8217;</title>
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		<dc:creator>TBogg &#187; Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars, And say &#8216;These wounds I had on denial-of-service day.&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] over at The Moderate Voice, Tony Campbell took the legacy of Bush and tried to make Bush-ade:  A bit about my history with the outgoing Bush Administration: I volunteered, worked as a paid [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ex-Bush Offical: Saddest Part about 9/11 is what it did to the Bush Presidency &#171; Boxothoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex-Bush Offical: Saddest Part about 9/11 is what it did to the Bush Presidency &#171; Boxothoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and proponent of so-called &#8220;compassionate conservatism&#8221; Tony Campbell, now a blogger at themoderatevoices.com; says that the saddest thing about 9/11 was what it had done to the Bush Presidency. For me, the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and proponent of so-called &#8220;compassionate conservatism&#8221; Tony Campbell, now a blogger at themoderatevoices.com; says that the saddest thing about 9/11 was what it had done to the Bush Presidency. For me, the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeff_pickens</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to add another thing I&#039;m grateful for, and glad Bush prevented with diligent policy:  we weren&#039;t struck by a giant meteorite during 8 years of the Bush administration.  That&#039;s a plus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to add another thing I&#39;m grateful for, and glad Bush prevented with diligent policy:  we weren&#39;t struck by a giant meteorite during 8 years of the Bush administration.  That&#39;s a plus.</p>
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		<title>By: mamazboy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The level of moral bankruptcy and ideologically driven myopia in this piece is just astounding. Bush&#039;s legacy is irrefutable, despite the wave of phony testimonials by the people you&#039;d expect - those who like Rice, Rove, et al. were complicit or active campaigners in one disastrous policy decision after another. I wish people like Tony Campbell would take a good, long look in the mirror and ask themselves why exactly they believe this kind of nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The level of moral bankruptcy and ideologically driven myopia in this piece is just astounding. Bush&#39;s legacy is irrefutable, despite the wave of phony testimonials by the people you&#39;d expect &#8211; those who like Rice, Rove, et al. were complicit or active campaigners in one disastrous policy decision after another. I wish people like Tony Campbell would take a good, long look in the mirror and ask themselves why exactly they believe this kind of nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Jcavhs</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/25294/bush-apologetics-9-11-01/comment-page-1/#comment-168154</link>
		<dc:creator>Jcavhs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And if you want to congratulate the Clinton administration on its diligence, you have to acknowledge that they did not secure the cockpit doors after hearing of the Bojinka plot, which included a plan to crash airplanes into buildings. You have to acknowledge that all of the hijacker pilots entered the country while Clinton was in office. And you have to acknowledge that they did not stop the Cole operation or the embassy bombings.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At least they managed to keep us respected in the world (and thus not creating a rallying point for terrorists) and have a thriving economy.    Yes, Clinton bears some responsibility for the Cole and embassy bombings.   But George W. Bush  bears responsibility for all attacks on our embassies and military personel in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as responsibility for doubling the national debt and the tanking economy.  And he aslo didn&#039;t secure the cockpit doors.  Nor did the FBI under Bush&#039;s watch investigate intelligence about people learning to fly commercial planes but not want to land (Colleen Rowley was a whistleblower about that).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Neither President was perfect but Clinton at least did some things well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And if you want to congratulate the Clinton administration on its diligence, you have to acknowledge that they did not secure the cockpit doors after hearing of the Bojinka plot, which included a plan to crash airplanes into buildings. You have to acknowledge that all of the hijacker pilots entered the country while Clinton was in office. And you have to acknowledge that they did not stop the Cole operation or the embassy bombings.&#8221;</p>
<p>At least they managed to keep us respected in the world (and thus not creating a rallying point for terrorists) and have a thriving economy.    Yes, Clinton bears some responsibility for the Cole and embassy bombings.   But George W. Bush  bears responsibility for all attacks on our embassies and military personel in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as responsibility for doubling the national debt and the tanking economy.  And he aslo didn&#39;t secure the cockpit doors.  Nor did the FBI under Bush&#39;s watch investigate intelligence about people learning to fly commercial planes but not want to land (Colleen Rowley was a whistleblower about that).</p>
<p>Neither President was perfect but Clinton at least did some things well.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you read the actual August 6, 2001 PDB rather than someone&#039;s spin on it, you&#039;ll find that the bulk of the info was historical in nature.  It read in part that the CIA had been unable to confirm the more sensational plots, such as a hijacking plot that was intended to gain the release of the blind sheikh.  The only new bits were a mention that the FBI was working on 70 different reports of Al Qaeda activity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The bit about &quot;Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside US?  Came from TV interviews that Bin Laden had given in 1998; there was nothing new about this and indeed readers of Time Magazine got that scoop three years before 9-11.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And if you want to congratulate the Clinton administration on its diligence, you have to acknowledge that they did not secure the cockpit doors after hearing of the Bojinka plot, which included a plan to crash airplanes into buildings.  You have to acknowledge that all of the hijacker pilots entered the country while Clinton was in office.  And you have to acknowledge that they did not stop the Cole operation or the embassy bombings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read the actual August 6, 2001 PDB rather than someone&#39;s spin on it, you&#39;ll find that the bulk of the info was historical in nature.  It read in part that the CIA had been unable to confirm the more sensational plots, such as a hijacking plot that was intended to gain the release of the blind sheikh.  The only new bits were a mention that the FBI was working on 70 different reports of Al Qaeda activity.</p>
<p>The bit about &#8220;Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside US?  Came from TV interviews that Bin Laden had given in 1998; there was nothing new about this and indeed readers of Time Magazine got that scoop three years before 9-11.</p>
<p>And if you want to congratulate the Clinton administration on its diligence, you have to acknowledge that they did not secure the cockpit doors after hearing of the Bojinka plot, which included a plan to crash airplanes into buildings.  You have to acknowledge that all of the hijacker pilots entered the country while Clinton was in office.  And you have to acknowledge that they did not stop the Cole operation or the embassy bombings.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorj2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorj2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austin,&lt;br&gt;   The New Orleans City Business link isn&#039;t working for me,  Here is what it says.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;UNO: New Orleans economy bucks national recession&lt;br&gt;ADVERTISEMENT&lt;br&gt;The New Orleans metro area added 11,700 jobs in 2008 and will see 7,900 more positions added over the next two years, according to a University of New Orleans economic forecast. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Report author Janet Speyer said the city’s recovery from Hurricane Katrina will allow the area to weather the economic downturn that is expected to saddle the rest of the country. And since New Orleans stayed largely free of the risky mortgages burdening other real estate markets, our banking sector remains relatively robust, she said. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Construction, not surprisingly, was the strength of New Orleans’ job market, growing 6.2 percent over the year while the rest of the country saw a 5.9 percent decline in the sector. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;New Orleans added 2,000 construction jobs in 2008; 1,500 in the hotel industry; 1,500 in food and beverage services; 1,100 in state government jobs, including public hospital workers and teachers; 800 in the professional/technical sector; and 800 in private hospitals. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;New Orleans’ economy “is still on an upward path,” according to UNO, with population and jobs still moving upward. The recovery pressure is unlikely to stop in the near future, but its pace will slow, the report says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin,<br />   The New Orleans City Business link isn&#39;t working for me,  Here is what it says.</p>
<p>UNO: New Orleans economy bucks national recession<br />ADVERTISEMENT<br />The New Orleans metro area added 11,700 jobs in 2008 and will see 7,900 more positions added over the next two years, according to a University of New Orleans economic forecast. </p>
<p>Report author Janet Speyer said the city’s recovery from Hurricane Katrina will allow the area to weather the economic downturn that is expected to saddle the rest of the country. And since New Orleans stayed largely free of the risky mortgages burdening other real estate markets, our banking sector remains relatively robust, she said. </p>
<p>Construction, not surprisingly, was the strength of New Orleans’ job market, growing 6.2 percent over the year while the rest of the country saw a 5.9 percent decline in the sector. </p>
<p>New Orleans added 2,000 construction jobs in 2008; 1,500 in the hotel industry; 1,500 in food and beverage services; 1,100 in state government jobs, including public hospital workers and teachers; 800 in the professional/technical sector; and 800 in private hospitals. </p>
<p>New Orleans’ economy “is still on an upward path,” according to UNO, with population and jobs still moving upward. The recovery pressure is unlikely to stop in the near future, but its pace will slow, the report says.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorj2u</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austin,&lt;br&gt;          The metro area of New Orleans is now 87% of what it was pre-Katrina and it is still growing as rents decrease as more homes are restored.  As to the business culture of NOLA, check out this link:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.neworleanscitybusiness.com/viewStory.cfm?rcID=32422&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.neworleanscitybusiness.com/viewStory...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;I find it interesting what you consider important in a city is money.  New Orleans was never about money (except when the Americans first entered the city and tried their best to put their values to it.)  New Orleans culture is about enjoying and loving  family and community..  That is why it survived when many communities would have died.&lt;br&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/this_image_goes_with_elderly.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/this...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt; It is a very special place.  Next trip try to get off the tourist trap of Bourbon Street and see the real New Orleans (including the still devastated areas).  You will meet the most resilient people in the world.  They have been annealed by pain and hardship, but all are there because they know the value of their home because it was very nearly lost to them.  I once was sure I was an American, now I know I am a New Orleanian.  The day George Bush is out of office maybe I can begin to be an American again.  Maybe not.  We will see.  What gives me hope are the wonderful volunteers that have come to our aid. (Watch the video.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/wwl122408cbvolunteers.2670930.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/wwl122408cbv...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;What gives me pause are &quot;Americans&quot; that tell suffering people they and their city are cesspools and don&#039;t deserve to live.  As a matter of fact, New Orleans and her people are BEAUTIFUL and it is sad that some people in this country are too ignorant, racist, or judgemental (aka SNL church lady) to see it.  I have a suggestion for you.  Go see &quot;The Curious Case of Benjamin Button&quot;.  You will see New Orleans for what it is and get a good message about living a good life at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin,<br />          The metro area of New Orleans is now 87% of what it was pre-Katrina and it is still growing as rents decrease as more homes are restored.  As to the business culture of NOLA, check out this link:<br /><a href="http://www.neworleanscitybusiness.com/viewStory.cfm?rcID=32422" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.neworleanscitybusiness.com/viewStory.." rel="nofollow">http://www.neworleanscitybusiness.com/viewStory..</a>.<br />I find it interesting what you consider important in a city is money.  New Orleans was never about money (except when the Americans first entered the city and tried their best to put their values to it.)  New Orleans culture is about enjoying and loving  family and community..  That is why it survived when many communities would have died.<br /> <a href="http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/this_image_goes_with_elderly.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/this.." rel="nofollow">http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/this..</a>.<br /> It is a very special place.  Next trip try to get off the tourist trap of Bourbon Street and see the real New Orleans (including the still devastated areas).  You will meet the most resilient people in the world.  They have been annealed by pain and hardship, but all are there because they know the value of their home because it was very nearly lost to them.  I once was sure I was an American, now I know I am a New Orleanian.  The day George Bush is out of office maybe I can begin to be an American again.  Maybe not.  We will see.  What gives me hope are the wonderful volunteers that have come to our aid. (Watch the video.)<br /><a href="http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/wwl122408cbvolunteers.2670930.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/wwl122408cbv.." rel="nofollow">http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/wwl122408cbv..</a>.<br />What gives me pause are &#8220;Americans&#8221; that tell suffering people they and their city are cesspools and don&#39;t deserve to live.  As a matter of fact, New Orleans and her people are BEAUTIFUL and it is sad that some people in this country are too ignorant, racist, or judgemental (aka SNL church lady) to see it.  I have a suggestion for you.  Go see &#8220;The Curious Case of Benjamin Button&#8221;.  You will see New Orleans for what it is and get a good message about living a good life at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: futzinfarb</title>
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		<dc:creator>futzinfarb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This fetishization of keeping us &quot;safe&quot;, of preventing attacks on American soil, and the attendant credit given to the Bush administration for its &quot;success&quot; has bothered me for some time.  I have had a difficult time articulating this, in part because I think it would take a book length exposition. But Richard Wolffe said something on Meet the Press on Dec 28, 2008 that is brief and comes close:  &quot;You can&#039;t take America&#039;s national security across oceans to other continents and then only care about its impact on American soil.  It&#039;s grossly irresponsible.&quot;  There are a thousand ways to elaborate on this for those who cannot see it.  But let&#039;s try only this one:  arguing the American soil point, without a detailed and honest accounting of the costs of the policies pursued ostensibly in support of this end, discounts the responsibility Bush had as Commander in Chief to those under his command and in some respects dishonors those who have served.  It is the special hell of military commanders (at least those with a conscience) to be responsible for the safety of those under their command, responsible for those whom they choose to place in harm&#039;s way.  Those thousands of military personnel and military contractors who have died, and the tens or hundreds of thousands who have been wounded both physically and psychologically were not kept safe by their commander in chief, and they were us.  Those parents and brothers and sisters and children who spent weeks and months in fear for the lives of their loved ones, only to have the worst happen, know terror and grief every bit as palpable as a 9/11 survivor, and they were us.  Thus, as an absolute minimum, I would expect those who wish to honestly argue the &quot;safety on American soil&quot; point for the Bush administration to argue it explicitly imbedded in the context of the costs in lives, blood, and tears of the armed forces Bush commanded.  In that context I find the account, like so many others in these waning days of 2008, bankrupt and have a difficult time imagining that history will somehow find otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This fetishization of keeping us &#8220;safe&#8221;, of preventing attacks on American soil, and the attendant credit given to the Bush administration for its &#8220;success&#8221; has bothered me for some time.  I have had a difficult time articulating this, in part because I think it would take a book length exposition. But Richard Wolffe said something on Meet the Press on Dec 28, 2008 that is brief and comes close:  &#8220;You can&#39;t take America&#39;s national security across oceans to other continents and then only care about its impact on American soil.  It&#39;s grossly irresponsible.&#8221;  There are a thousand ways to elaborate on this for those who cannot see it.  But let&#39;s try only this one:  arguing the American soil point, without a detailed and honest accounting of the costs of the policies pursued ostensibly in support of this end, discounts the responsibility Bush had as Commander in Chief to those under his command and in some respects dishonors those who have served.  It is the special hell of military commanders (at least those with a conscience) to be responsible for the safety of those under their command, responsible for those whom they choose to place in harm&#39;s way.  Those thousands of military personnel and military contractors who have died, and the tens or hundreds of thousands who have been wounded both physically and psychologically were not kept safe by their commander in chief, and they were us.  Those parents and brothers and sisters and children who spent weeks and months in fear for the lives of their loved ones, only to have the worst happen, know terror and grief every bit as palpable as a 9/11 survivor, and they were us.  Thus, as an absolute minimum, I would expect those who wish to honestly argue the &#8220;safety on American soil&#8221; point for the Bush administration to argue it explicitly imbedded in the context of the costs in lives, blood, and tears of the armed forces Bush commanded.  In that context I find the account, like so many others in these waning days of 2008, bankrupt and have a difficult time imagining that history will somehow find otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The legacy of George W. Bush also includes making political appointments whose job it was to undermine the purposes of the agencies they were supposed to manage. This has been documented in newspaper articles concerning the Department of the Interior, NASA, the EPA and OSHA. I think they&#039;ve barely gotten started on showing how badly the Bush administration served the American people and these actions had nothing to do with 9/11.&quot;&lt;br&gt;Jim--&lt;br&gt;I have to agree with this entirely- and it is an excellent point. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was just reading today about how a Bush political appointee at OSHA totally undermined the agency when an urgent warning came in about dental techs being exposed to  a carcinogen in the workplace.  The appointee had been pressured from lobbyists representing  the source of the carcinogen-- and despite the entire agency&#039;s protest, was able to derail it from taking action.  This was in 2001--- and nothing has been done about it to this day. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How would you like to be one of those dental techs???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The legacy of George W. Bush also includes making political appointments whose job it was to undermine the purposes of the agencies they were supposed to manage. This has been documented in newspaper articles concerning the Department of the Interior, NASA, the EPA and OSHA. I think they&#39;ve barely gotten started on showing how badly the Bush administration served the American people and these actions had nothing to do with 9/11.&#8221;<br />Jim&#8211;<br />I have to agree with this entirely- and it is an excellent point. </p>
<p>I was just reading today about how a Bush political appointee at OSHA totally undermined the agency when an urgent warning came in about dental techs being exposed to  a carcinogen in the workplace.  The appointee had been pressured from lobbyists representing  the source of the carcinogen&#8211; and despite the entire agency&#39;s protest, was able to derail it from taking action.  This was in 2001&#8212; and nothing has been done about it to this day. </p>
<p>How would you like to be one of those dental techs???</p>
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		<title>By: jasperjava</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B*sh kept us safe??? With his pet project war against Iraq (a country that had NO connection to 9/11 and NO weapons of mass destruction), B*sh is responsible for more American deaths – and more innocent civilian deaths – than Osama bin Laden. It was a war based on lies, fought solely for corporate profit. It killed thousands of U.S, troops and left tens of thousands more horribly injured. It caused incredible human suffering.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;B*sh is a war criminal and must be sent to The Hague to face justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B*sh kept us safe??? With his pet project war against Iraq (a country that had NO connection to 9/11 and NO weapons of mass destruction), B*sh is responsible for more American deaths – and more innocent civilian deaths – than Osama bin Laden. It was a war based on lies, fought solely for corporate profit. It killed thousands of U.S, troops and left tens of thousands more horribly injured. It caused incredible human suffering.</p>
<p>B*sh is a war criminal and must be sent to The Hague to face justice.</p>
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		<title>By: jfingers1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Tony are you a functional human being? or are we reading the jargon of a bush lackey? Tell me how is it that 19 (I like that mystical number) US trained operatives (7 proven alive after identities were stolen) outwitted the multi billion dollar airforce in the most protected airspace for nearly two hours without one shot fired ( well we certainly know flt93 was shot down), most technologically advanced AF. Yet Cessna pilots who allegedly trained on simulators were able to perform precision military maneuvers with airliners on the spot. This totally boggles my mind. I wonder where I can get passports that survive fireballs, I thought they were made of paper, yet these hijackers had some type of miracle survival paper, I wonder how that happens? Why has 911 been swept under the rug and no one says boo?&lt;br&gt;What an absolute fraud, its so obvious. How could so many people be fooled and now we are supposed to believe in the divinity of bush and his incredibly criminal family whose history makes  the histories of Stalin and Hitler pale in comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Tony are you a functional human being? or are we reading the jargon of a bush lackey? Tell me how is it that 19 (I like that mystical number) US trained operatives (7 proven alive after identities were stolen) outwitted the multi billion dollar airforce in the most protected airspace for nearly two hours without one shot fired ( well we certainly know flt93 was shot down), most technologically advanced AF. Yet Cessna pilots who allegedly trained on simulators were able to perform precision military maneuvers with airliners on the spot. This totally boggles my mind. I wonder where I can get passports that survive fireballs, I thought they were made of paper, yet these hijackers had some type of miracle survival paper, I wonder how that happens? Why has 911 been swept under the rug and no one says boo?<br />What an absolute fraud, its so obvious. How could so many people be fooled and now we are supposed to believe in the divinity of bush and his incredibly criminal family whose history makes  the histories of Stalin and Hitler pale in comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doc - Really? What is the total population today vs. pre-Katrina? What is the tax revenue base today vs. pre-Katrina? What is the number of available hotel rooms, occupancy rates, and average room rate today vs. pre-Katrina? What is the total employment and unemployment numbers and rates today vs. pre-Katrina?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What, exactly, do you base your contention that New Orleans is rebuilding to anything close to what it was prior to Katrina? And what I said about it being a dying city with a declining infrastructure, tax base and population, along with rampant corruption and an erosion of the Bourbon Street and music scenes is sadly true.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have visited NO at least 6 - 8 times pre-Katrina, and twice now post-Katrina. I do not hate NO; I sued to love it. But its decay was obvious before Katrina, and the re-building, such as there is, is window dressing. It is sad, but true. The strategic need for the Port of New Orleans was gone years ago, and the downsides of NO outweigh the costs needed to fully rebuild.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Otherwise, as I said, businesses and people would be returning there in droves. And they are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doc &#8211; Really? What is the total population today vs. pre-Katrina? What is the tax revenue base today vs. pre-Katrina? What is the number of available hotel rooms, occupancy rates, and average room rate today vs. pre-Katrina? What is the total employment and unemployment numbers and rates today vs. pre-Katrina?</p>
<p>What, exactly, do you base your contention that New Orleans is rebuilding to anything close to what it was prior to Katrina? And what I said about it being a dying city with a declining infrastructure, tax base and population, along with rampant corruption and an erosion of the Bourbon Street and music scenes is sadly true.</p>
<p>I have visited NO at least 6 &#8211; 8 times pre-Katrina, and twice now post-Katrina. I do not hate NO; I sued to love it. But its decay was obvious before Katrina, and the re-building, such as there is, is window dressing. It is sad, but true. The strategic need for the Port of New Orleans was gone years ago, and the downsides of NO outweigh the costs needed to fully rebuild.</p>
<p>Otherwise, as I said, businesses and people would be returning there in droves. And they are not.</p>
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		<title>By: NO2WAR</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it weren&#039;t for the doctrine of American exceptionalism the George Bush  would be tried for war crimes, and sent to jail where he belongs.  His Presidency has been a disaster for the World.   Accountability must be demanded.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Beginning with Prescott Bush and continuing down to George W, the documented damage inflicted upon the United States, its Constitution, and citizens by the Bush Crime Family is truly immeasurable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it weren&#39;t for the doctrine of American exceptionalism the George Bush  would be tried for war crimes, and sent to jail where he belongs.  His Presidency has been a disaster for the World.   Accountability must be demanded.</p>
<p>Beginning with Prescott Bush and continuing down to George W, the documented damage inflicted upon the United States, its Constitution, and citizens by the Bush Crime Family is truly immeasurable.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorj2u</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austin,&lt;br&gt;   I hate to tell you (because I know it will disappoint you)  but the city of New Orleans IS rebuilt from the bravery of the people from all over the world that refused to let it die.  I blame Bush for the years of suffering that occurred after the levees broke because I lived it and watched the suffering of hundreds and hundreds of good Americans.  But keep your altar to the man if that is the kind of person you find admirable.  Just don&#039;t call yourself a patriot or a good American because you are not by any definition I ever understood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin,<br />   I hate to tell you (because I know it will disappoint you)  but the city of New Orleans IS rebuilt from the bravery of the people from all over the world that refused to let it die.  I blame Bush for the years of suffering that occurred after the levees broke because I lived it and watched the suffering of hundreds and hundreds of good Americans.  But keep your altar to the man if that is the kind of person you find admirable.  Just don&#39;t call yourself a patriot or a good American because you are not by any definition I ever understood.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>docorj2u - Don&#039;t blame Bush for the decades of neglect of the levees. Don&#039;t blame Bush for the criminally incompetent responses and lack of proper evacuation by New Orleans city officials and the state of Louisiana. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And above all, don&#039;t live in a terminally corrupt city built below sea-level in-between the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Pontchartrain. Your city was already a decaying, dying city living on strip joints, tourist rip-off spots, and a music scene that was more reputation than reality for many years. It was the Detroit of the South.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It hasn&#039;t been rebuilt not because the Federal Government doesn&#039;t care, but because business, local and national, along with the American people, as a whole, just don&#039;t care if it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>docorj2u &#8211; Don&#39;t blame Bush for the decades of neglect of the levees. Don&#39;t blame Bush for the criminally incompetent responses and lack of proper evacuation by New Orleans city officials and the state of Louisiana. </p>
<p>And above all, don&#39;t live in a terminally corrupt city built below sea-level in-between the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Pontchartrain. Your city was already a decaying, dying city living on strip joints, tourist rip-off spots, and a music scene that was more reputation than reality for many years. It was the Detroit of the South.</p>
<p>It hasn&#39;t been rebuilt not because the Federal Government doesn&#39;t care, but because business, local and national, along with the American people, as a whole, just don&#39;t care if it is.</p>
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		<title>By: NordicAngst</title>
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		<dc:creator>NordicAngst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@acspark&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As our values have changed our standards have risen.  Most of us have higher expectations for 21st century presidents than those of previous eras in no small part because we expect them to have learned the follies of their predecessors.</description>
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<p>As our values have changed our standards have risen.  Most of us have higher expectations for 21st century presidents than those of previous eras in no small part because we expect them to have learned the follies of their predecessors.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The legacy of George W. Bush also includes making political appointments whose job it was to undermine the purposes of the agencies they were supposed to manage. This has been documented in newspaper articles concerning the Department of the Interior, NASA, the EPA and OSHA. I think they&#039;ve barely gotten started on showing how badly the Bush administration served the American people and these actions had nothing to do with 9/11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The legacy of George W. Bush also includes making political appointments whose job it was to undermine the purposes of the agencies they were supposed to manage. This has been documented in newspaper articles concerning the Department of the Interior, NASA, the EPA and OSHA. I think they&#39;ve barely gotten started on showing how badly the Bush administration served the American people and these actions had nothing to do with 9/11.</p>
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		<title>By: ARS2</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For me, the saddest part about the terrorist attacks of 9-11 is the long-term impact on the presidency of George W. Bush. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For me, the saddest part of 9-11 was the friends, father in law and wife I lost that day. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I really cannot put GW Bush&#039;s legacy in the same category, nor should any person with a vestige of humanity. &lt;br&gt;Anyone who looks at 9-11 as merely a political situation is vile beyond words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For me, the saddest part about the terrorist attacks of 9-11 is the long-term impact on the presidency of George W. Bush. &#8220;</p>
<p>For me, the saddest part of 9-11 was the friends, father in law and wife I lost that day. </p>
<p>I really cannot put GW Bush&#39;s legacy in the same category, nor should any person with a vestige of humanity. <br />Anyone who looks at 9-11 as merely a political situation is vile beyond words.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorj2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorj2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 20 years a hope I am still alive to counter any kudos.  An American city WAS destroyed under Mr. Bush&#039;s administration. It was my hometown of New Orleans.  It did not involve one terrorist, just an incompetent government not interested in mundane things like infrastructure and protecting the lives of American citizens.  Hell is too good for this man.  And yes I supported him before Katrina also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 20 years a hope I am still alive to counter any kudos.  An American city WAS destroyed under Mr. Bush&#39;s administration. It was my hometown of New Orleans.  It did not involve one terrorist, just an incompetent government not interested in mundane things like infrastructure and protecting the lives of American citizens.  Hell is too good for this man.  And yes I supported him before Katrina also.</p>
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