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		<title>By: Imagine No Religion &#124; New Trommetter Times</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imagine No Religion &#124; New Trommetter Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Naumadd.</description>
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		<title>By: Naumadd</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/25155/atheists-post-hateful-christmas-sign-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-167720</link>
		<dc:creator>Naumadd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like it or not, there are many who genuinely believe a human culture that values the use of reason as its primary path to knowledge is a good thing and any affirmation of that belief also the good. It follows that, if one values life, human life and the capacity for reason, the good is also to affirm the error in  other beliefs and how those errant beliefs harm people. A wish for the victory of good reasoning is a wish for the defeat of poor reasoning. This is precisely what the sign communicates. It is no more negative than a mother&#039;s cleaning and bandaging a skinned knee. She makes war on injury and infection. Does this make her viewpoint and actions inherently negative or are these instead positive in favor of a healthy child?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I submit the symbols of some religions - Christianity being a clear example - can as easily communicate the very negative messages in their teachings and practices as they can the positive ones. When I personally see a manger, after my admiration of the non-religious significance of the mother-child symbolism, it then reminds me of the dubious support for the event it claims to represent, of the alleged horrible nature of the deity these people claim to worship and of the horrors perpetrated by these believers in the name of their deity and in the name of the &quot;messiah&quot; allegedly lying in the manger. To me, the symbolism of the Christian nativity scene is primarily negative. There are many characteristics true of me that these believers fear, denigrate and attempt to suppress or overshadow on a regular basis and displays of their symbolism only serve to remind me how different my life would be if they did not exist and how very different it would be if they were fully free to impose their views. But having said that, I would not wish the display removed or those who believe such things denied the right to express their beliefs - wrong or right.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Christian posturing around assumptions of monopoly over human culture, American culture, and various dates throughout the solar year only serve to reinforce the message regarding their views of non-christians and their continued arrogance regarding dominion. Their behaviors surrounding the display of an alternate point of view ought to send a clear message to those who wish to be free to believe and practice as they choose that neither Christianity nor its equally aggressive sister religion of Islam nor their parent religion of Judaism are the friends of peace and respect they claim to be.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do not oppose Christianity as a free choice of others, despite its obvious errors of reason, however, I do and always will oppose Christian domination. I will not allow my voice to be silenced or the voices of others be suppressed solely because it makes you uncomfortable.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Freedom of speech and freedom of religion does not include freedom from skepticism, critique and rebuttal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like it or not, there are many who genuinely believe a human culture that values the use of reason as its primary path to knowledge is a good thing and any affirmation of that belief also the good. It follows that, if one values life, human life and the capacity for reason, the good is also to affirm the error in  other beliefs and how those errant beliefs harm people. A wish for the victory of good reasoning is a wish for the defeat of poor reasoning. This is precisely what the sign communicates. It is no more negative than a mother&#39;s cleaning and bandaging a skinned knee. She makes war on injury and infection. Does this make her viewpoint and actions inherently negative or are these instead positive in favor of a healthy child?</p>
<p>I submit the symbols of some religions &#8211; Christianity being a clear example &#8211; can as easily communicate the very negative messages in their teachings and practices as they can the positive ones. When I personally see a manger, after my admiration of the non-religious significance of the mother-child symbolism, it then reminds me of the dubious support for the event it claims to represent, of the alleged horrible nature of the deity these people claim to worship and of the horrors perpetrated by these believers in the name of their deity and in the name of the &#8220;messiah&#8221; allegedly lying in the manger. To me, the symbolism of the Christian nativity scene is primarily negative. There are many characteristics true of me that these believers fear, denigrate and attempt to suppress or overshadow on a regular basis and displays of their symbolism only serve to remind me how different my life would be if they did not exist and how very different it would be if they were fully free to impose their views. But having said that, I would not wish the display removed or those who believe such things denied the right to express their beliefs &#8211; wrong or right.</p>
<p>Christian posturing around assumptions of monopoly over human culture, American culture, and various dates throughout the solar year only serve to reinforce the message regarding their views of non-christians and their continued arrogance regarding dominion. Their behaviors surrounding the display of an alternate point of view ought to send a clear message to those who wish to be free to believe and practice as they choose that neither Christianity nor its equally aggressive sister religion of Islam nor their parent religion of Judaism are the friends of peace and respect they claim to be.</p>
<p>I do not oppose Christianity as a free choice of others, despite its obvious errors of reason, however, I do and always will oppose Christian domination. I will not allow my voice to be silenced or the voices of others be suppressed solely because it makes you uncomfortable.</p>
<p>Freedom of speech and freedom of religion does not include freedom from skepticism, critique and rebuttal.</p>
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		<title>By: bobxxxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobxxxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AustinRoth, you&#039;re mentally disturbed and your language is disgusting. You don&#039;t belong here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AustinRoth, you&#39;re mentally disturbed and your language is disgusting. You don&#39;t belong here.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/25155/atheists-post-hateful-christmas-sign-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-167707</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AR, nice job of dragging this thread into the cesspool. Prior to this I actually bothered to read your comments. My mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AR, nice job of dragging this thread into the cesspool. Prior to this I actually bothered to read your comments. My mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, YOU wouldn&#039;t say it. The concept of being respectful to others belief&#039;s is foreign to you. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am a suck-up because I refuse to hate those who believe? Living here in Texas, I have had people upset with my being an atheist, but never because I wasn&#039;t &#039;atheist enough&#039;. Like I said, you have issues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And you have no idea how foul-mouthed I can be, you c*ck-s*cking, m*ther-f*cking, sh*t-eating, festering wound of a d**chebag c*nt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, not one of those words, or my earlier ones, have been completely spelled out, so if you choose to interpret them as foul, then that is your choice, and a reflection of your thoughts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peace be with you. Now p*ss off.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, YOU wouldn&#39;t say it. The concept of being respectful to others belief&#39;s is foreign to you. </p>
<p>I am a suck-up because I refuse to hate those who believe? Living here in Texas, I have had people upset with my being an atheist, but never because I wasn&#39;t &#39;atheist enough&#39;. Like I said, you have issues.</p>
<p>And you have no idea how foul-mouthed I can be, you c*ck-s*cking, m*ther-f*cking, sh*t-eating, festering wound of a d**chebag c*nt.</p>
<p>Of course, not one of those words, or my earlier ones, have been completely spelled out, so if you choose to interpret them as foul, then that is your choice, and a reflection of your thoughts.</p>
<p>Peace be with you. Now p*ss off.</p>
<p> <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bobxxxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobxxxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AustinRoth, you might be an atheist, but you&#039;re part of the problem because you&#039;re a suck up. You also have a foul mouth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way asshole, a real atheist would never say &quot;You hate God&quot; so it&#039;s obvious you&#039;re a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AustinRoth, you might be an atheist, but you&#39;re part of the problem because you&#39;re a suck up. You also have a foul mouth.</p>
<p>By the way asshole, a real atheist would never say &#8220;You hate God&#8221; so it&#39;s obvious you&#39;re a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/25155/atheists-post-hateful-christmas-sign-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-167693</link>
		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You have shown your hatred of God, and the concept of God, with your writings. They are not the words of someone who merely disbelieves, but must denigrate those who do, and with hateful language. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You have deep issues you need to resolve about religion, obviously. Did you get f*cked in the ass by a priest when you were young, or did you want to and get rejected?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you were not either new to this board, or such a complete f*cking idiot, you would know from many, many posts of mine that I am quite completely an atheist, not as you so non-hatefully put it, &#039;a Jeebus freak&#039; or &#039;a religious idiot&#039;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just don&#039;t have the need to hate, denigrate, and lash out at those who do not share my views on the lack of God. I show respect to them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unlike to you, as you deserve none, you sh*t-filled piece moronic trash.</description>
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<p>You have shown your hatred of God, and the concept of God, with your writings. They are not the words of someone who merely disbelieves, but must denigrate those who do, and with hateful language. </p>
<p>You have deep issues you need to resolve about religion, obviously. Did you get f*cked in the ass by a priest when you were young, or did you want to and get rejected?</p>
<p>If you were not either new to this board, or such a complete f*cking idiot, you would know from many, many posts of mine that I am quite completely an atheist, not as you so non-hatefully put it, &#39;a Jeebus freak&#39; or &#39;a religious idiot&#39;.</p>
<p>I just don&#39;t have the need to hate, denigrate, and lash out at those who do not share my views on the lack of God. I show respect to them.</p>
<p>Unlike to you, as you deserve none, you sh*t-filled piece moronic trash.</p>
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		<title>By: bobxxxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobxxxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You hate God&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK genius. Please tell me how a person can hate something that doesn&#039;t exist?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You need to grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You hate God&#8221;</p>
<p>OK genius. Please tell me how a person can hate something that doesn&#39;t exist?</p>
<p>You need to grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: bobxxxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobxxxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AustinRoth, are you a Jeebus freak? You sure sound like one. Whether or not you&#039;re a religious idiot, you are part of the problem and you should be ashamed of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AustinRoth, are you a Jeebus freak? You sure sound like one. Whether or not you&#39;re a religious idiot, you are part of the problem and you should be ashamed of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob - thanks for the clarification. At least now we all know you ARE a religious person. You hate God, religion, and maybe even everyone that disagrees with you, with the zeal of the true believer. You and those like you give atheism as bad a name as the fanatical haters on the other side of this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8211; thanks for the clarification. At least now we all know you ARE a religious person. You hate God, religion, and maybe even everyone that disagrees with you, with the zeal of the true believer. You and those like you give atheism as bad a name as the fanatical haters on the other side of this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: bobxxxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobxxxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telling a fat person she looks like a pig is bad taste. Telling the truth about the stupidity of religions is not bad taste, for the same reason it&#039;s not bad taste to talk about the stupidity of racism. After 9/11/2001 it should be disgraceful to be religious person. Religious insanity is out of control in this world and anyone who still has a medieval belief in a magic god fairy should be ashamed of themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telling a fat person she looks like a pig is bad taste. Telling the truth about the stupidity of religions is not bad taste, for the same reason it&#39;s not bad taste to talk about the stupidity of racism. After 9/11/2001 it should be disgraceful to be religious person. Religious insanity is out of control in this world and anyone who still has a medieval belief in a magic god fairy should be ashamed of themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends on how the truth is presented. While it is borderline as to whether in this instance it was presented in bad taste or not, it is easy enough to come with with plenty of scenarios of telling the truth in bad taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on how the truth is presented. While it is borderline as to whether in this instance it was presented in bad taste or not, it is easy enough to come with with plenty of scenarios of telling the truth in bad taste.</p>
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		<title>By: bobxxxx</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/25155/atheists-post-hateful-christmas-sign-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-167661</link>
		<dc:creator>bobxxxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Floyd and Mary Beth Brown,  There was nothing hateful about that atheist sign, but if might be fair to say my following comments do not respect you or your insane religion. Christianity is a death cult. It&#039;s all about death. Jeebus died on the cross. Dead people go to heaven. If the dead person was not stupid enough to believe in Jeebus, the dead person goes to hell. The Bible is full of genocide. Christianity is about death, death, and more death. Christianity would be extinct in one generation if not for the relentless brainwashing of young gullible children. There&#039;s no such thing as a moderate Christian because there&#039;s nothing moderate about child abuse. That&#039;s what religious indoctrination is, child abuse. Even the most moderate Christian believes in heaven, and they believe in heaven because they are cowards who are terrified of reality. I could write several more paragraphs about the hopeless stupidity and insanity of Christians, but I think you get the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Floyd and Mary Beth Brown,  There was nothing hateful about that atheist sign, but if might be fair to say my following comments do not respect you or your insane religion. Christianity is a death cult. It&#39;s all about death. Jeebus died on the cross. Dead people go to heaven. If the dead person was not stupid enough to believe in Jeebus, the dead person goes to hell. The Bible is full of genocide. Christianity is about death, death, and more death. Christianity would be extinct in one generation if not for the relentless brainwashing of young gullible children. There&#39;s no such thing as a moderate Christian because there&#39;s nothing moderate about child abuse. That&#39;s what religious indoctrination is, child abuse. Even the most moderate Christian believes in heaven, and they believe in heaven because they are cowards who are terrified of reality. I could write several more paragraphs about the hopeless stupidity and insanity of Christians, but I think you get the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: bobxxxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobxxxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mlhradio wrote &quot;Bad taste, yes - hatred, no.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since when is telling the truth &quot;bad taste&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mlhradio wrote &#8220;Bad taste, yes &#8211; hatred, no.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since when is telling the truth &#8220;bad taste&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: bobxxxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobxxxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“At this season of the Winter Solstice, may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. ... There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What&#039;s hateful about that? It&#039;s just the truth. Religions are nothing more than a collections of made up stories. Religions cause great harm to people. Any sign that encourages people to throw out their religious insanity can only make the world a better place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“At this season of the Winter Solstice, may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. &#8230; There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds.”</p>
<p>What&#39;s hateful about that? It&#39;s just the truth. Religions are nothing more than a collections of made up stories. Religions cause great harm to people. Any sign that encourages people to throw out their religious insanity can only make the world a better place.</p>
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		<title>By: NordicAngst</title>
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		<dc:creator>NordicAngst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s absurd that the author of this piece specifically avoids actually describing the sign in question.   &quot;we report, we decide&quot; at its worst.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know it&#039;s just a guest voice post, but maybe the voices should have a more reasonably style in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s absurd that the author of this piece specifically avoids actually describing the sign in question.   &#8220;we report, we decide&#8221; at its worst.</p>
<p>I know it&#39;s just a guest voice post, but maybe the voices should have a more reasonably style in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only &quot;hate&quot; I can spot is coming from the authors of the post, not the atheists who put up the sign.  Speaking as a secular agnostic who embraces the cultural aspects of my families Jewish heritage - and who spent the 80&#039;s pushing back against the God Boys who were in the process of taking over the Air Force officer corps - I am sick to freakin&#039; death of having other peoples religion shoved down my throat.  And by the way - sacred, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only &#8220;hate&#8221; I can spot is coming from the authors of the post, not the atheists who put up the sign.  Speaking as a secular agnostic who embraces the cultural aspects of my families Jewish heritage &#8211; and who spent the 80&#39;s pushing back against the God Boys who were in the process of taking over the Air Force officer corps &#8211; I am sick to freakin&#39; death of having other peoples religion shoved down my throat.  And by the way &#8211; sacred, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GD - sorry for making a false assumption of your beliefs. I &#039;assumed&#039; that if you could, or would, not believe without incontrovertible evidence, that that position pretty much eliminated all religions. I shouldn&#039;t assume.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I do try to not believe without proof, fail in some areas where my bias gets the best of me, but certainly not with religion. But those who have it, if it helps them, then great.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess I have always had less of an issue with individual belief and faith as compared to the institutions of belief. It does seem the more members and organizational structure gets involved, the less tolerance exists, and the more political internally and externally, and religion becomes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I write it off to simple human nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GD &#8211; sorry for making a false assumption of your beliefs. I &#39;assumed&#39; that if you could, or would, not believe without incontrovertible evidence, that that position pretty much eliminated all religions. I shouldn&#39;t assume.</p>
<p>And I do try to not believe without proof, fail in some areas where my bias gets the best of me, but certainly not with religion. But those who have it, if it helps them, then great.</p>
<p>I guess I have always had less of an issue with individual belief and faith as compared to the institutions of belief. It does seem the more members and organizational structure gets involved, the less tolerance exists, and the more political internally and externally, and religion becomes.</p>
<p>I write it off to simple human nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s fundy Christians who blocked Wiccan monuments for US soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan at military cemeteries. These wackjobs are threatened by anything that doesn&#039;t fit into their dogma. Let anyone believe in their own crazy ideas, just ignore or except others crazy beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s fundy Christians who blocked Wiccan monuments for US soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan at military cemeteries. These wackjobs are threatened by anything that doesn&#39;t fit into their dogma. Let anyone believe in their own crazy ideas, just ignore or except others crazy beliefs.</p>
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