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Rick Warren’s Blessing and Obama’s

The furor over the minister selected to deliver the invocation at the Inaugural is a measure of how the traditional separation of church and state for more than two centuries has broken down in American life over the past eight years.

In decades of acting out his informal role as the “President’s pastor,” Billy Graham affirmed the values of Christianity without applying them to political issues and without suggesting a state-sponsored religion at the expense of those with other beliefs or none. No President would have welcomed him to the White House if he had.

Now we have Obama defending his choice of Rick Warren on the grounds that the best-selling minister is tolerant of the President-Elect’s political views:

“I would note that a couple of years ago, I was invited to Rick Warren’s church to speak, despite his awareness that I held views that were entirely contrary to his when it came to gay and lesbian rights, when it came to issues like abortion…”

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  • Jcavhs
    disagree with you that Obama is justifying Warren's inclusion on
    "the grounds that the best-selling minister is tolerant of the President-Elect's political views". What President-Elect Obama seems to be saying (to me at least) is that just because people don't agree on everything doesn't mean you should exclude them - especially when you agree on other important issues.

    To exclude Rev. Warren because he disgagrees on some issues seems to me a bad precendent and contrary to what President-Elect Obama stood for in the campaign. You need to work with people you disagree with. We can't continue to have a country where because you disagree with someone, albeit on a big issue, you refuse to include them. Excluding Rev. Wright is no different from a Republican excluding pro-choice ministers.

    This country needs to start working together, and you can't do that when you exclude people you disagree with. President-Elect Obama is going to be President of ALL Americans, not just those who agree with him 100%.
  • I agree Jcavhs. Like it or not, Warren represents a significant slice of the American polity which Obama has to contend with. Contrary to Mr. Stein's conclusion, engaging such factions actually is a change from the Bush years where political enemies were given no quarter. To follow in those footsteps and attempt to marginalize the religious right is only a change in ideology - something decidedly different from the kind of change Obama campaigned on, much to the chagrin of many on the left.
  • jeff_pickens
    It sounds good and inclusive, but....

    Sorry to bring up old Glenn Greenwald again, (my fault for bringing his views into these discussions so much, but I think he offers differing perspectives on the issues as we sometimes see them here) there's today's blog posting at Salon:

    Friday Dec. 19, 2008 07:35 EST
    How new is Obama's New Politics?
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
  • JSpencer
    I agree with Robert. To me this is not a good sign for those who have been craving leadership that would depart from the status quo. It appears as though Obama is tapping the brakes on his change and hope message. Yes, I know he hasn't taken office yet, but he's making important decisions nonetheless. To those who see this choice of Warren as "inclusive", then I say the standard being embraced is terribly low. This is hardly a time for watered down leadership and watered down thinking, and reaching across the aisle for it's own sake isn't any sort of measure for leadership.

    Perhaps this country is just no longer capable of producing the caliber of leadership that is required to meet unusually challenging times. Or perhaps there are too many people who are content to substitute ideological games and the rearranging of deck chairs for inspired and clear thinking, worthwhile actions and far-reaching goals. I know, this is a lot to draw from a simple invocation, but I see it as a shot across the bow of hope and change, which if I remember correctly, was the selling point for those who had the audacity to imagine an America that might do more than just pretend to lift itself out of the swamp.

    Bottom line: If people are willing to settle for 3rd rate judgements and 3rd rate thinking, then they will have to eventually settle for living in a 3rd rate country as well, since that's where we've been steadily heading for the better part of a decade now. For those who haven't figured it out yet, the status quo, in any way shape or form, is no longer an option.
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