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	<title>Comments on: NY Senate Appointment: &#8220;I Don&#8217;t Do Utica&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/25090/ny-senate-appointment-i-dont-do-utica/comment-page-1/#comment-167434</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was removed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To recap _briefly_, another person who might be qualified for the Senate seat, but who is unfit for it, is liberal mayor Bloomberg of New York City, the darling of the non-&quot;moderate&quot; liberal set.  Anyone who wants to misuse the courts to shake down the gun industry is unfit.  More broadly and pertinently to the &quot;state of the state&quot; of New York (and other states), the same ridiculous set of new taxes that Paterson includes in his budget proposal (tech kids will _love_ the &quot;digital download&quot; tax) include some taxes that already exist in New York City, with Bloomberg&#039;s approval.  The states&#039; problems remain mainly that of excessive spending (which is what bankrupted liberal &quot;jewel&quot; New York City by the mid-1970s) and the bloated, redundant government and subservience to demanding, at-times-militant unions (with a vast multiplicity of municipal-government fiefdoms in New York and other states like New Jersey, that bloat governments more than ever) is the same kind of failed model that coincidentally we&#039;ve seen with the Detroit auto makers and the UAW, as well as with cities in addition to New York City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was removed.</p>
<p>To recap _briefly_, another person who might be qualified for the Senate seat, but who is unfit for it, is liberal mayor Bloomberg of New York City, the darling of the non-&#8221;moderate&#8221; liberal set.  Anyone who wants to misuse the courts to shake down the gun industry is unfit.  More broadly and pertinently to the &#8220;state of the state&#8221; of New York (and other states), the same ridiculous set of new taxes that Paterson includes in his budget proposal (tech kids will _love_ the &#8220;digital download&#8221; tax) include some taxes that already exist in New York City, with Bloomberg&#39;s approval.  The states&#39; problems remain mainly that of excessive spending (which is what bankrupted liberal &#8220;jewel&#8221; New York City by the mid-1970s) and the bloated, redundant government and subservience to demanding, at-times-militant unions (with a vast multiplicity of municipal-government fiefdoms in New York and other states like New Jersey, that bloat governments more than ever) is the same kind of failed model that coincidentally we&#39;ve seen with the Detroit auto makers and the UAW, as well as with cities in addition to New York City.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/25090/ny-senate-appointment-i-dont-do-utica/comment-page-1/#comment-167425</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope my longer posting didn&#039;t get removed by mistake by Disqus.  We&#039;ll see...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Incidentally, the place I lived and worked for a while was Binghamton.  I visited all the classic Upstate cities -- Utica-Rome, Syracuse (closest B of A was in Cortland, on the way north), Oswego, Watertown, Rochester, Buffalo-Niagara (eat at Oliver&#039;s at least once, even though it&#039;s very expensive!), and also Ithaca (hint: bang) and Schenectady (should qualify, too, even if Albany often doesn&#039;t).  I also headed north of Albany frequently (Plattsburg is mighty cold and looked bleak after the &quot;Quebec&quot; ice storm that actually affected New York, New Brunswick, and other places, too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope my longer posting didn&#39;t get removed by mistake by Disqus.  We&#39;ll see&#8230;</p>
<p>Incidentally, the place I lived and worked for a while was Binghamton.  I visited all the classic Upstate cities &#8212; Utica-Rome, Syracuse (closest B of A was in Cortland, on the way north), Oswego, Watertown, Rochester, Buffalo-Niagara (eat at Oliver&#39;s at least once, even though it&#39;s very expensive!), and also Ithaca (hint: bang) and Schenectady (should qualify, too, even if Albany often doesn&#39;t).  I also headed north of Albany frequently (Plattsburg is mighty cold and looked bleak after the &#8220;Quebec&#8221; ice storm that actually affected New York, New Brunswick, and other places, too).</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/25090/ny-senate-appointment-i-dont-do-utica/comment-page-1/#comment-167420</link>
		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Elrod brings back fond memories. I grew up in Schuyler, just down the road from there and his description is very accurate.  And yes, the Arterial should have been called the Mafia Cash Grab Express.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well... I mean, if there really WERE such a thing as the mafia. Which I&#039;m very obviously not saying there is.  Far from it, actually.  Errr... I need to get going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Elrod brings back fond memories. I grew up in Schuyler, just down the road from there and his description is very accurate.  And yes, the Arterial should have been called the Mafia Cash Grab Express.</p>
<p>Well&#8230; I mean, if there really WERE such a thing as the mafia. Which I&#39;m very obviously not saying there is.  Far from it, actually.  Errr&#8230; I need to get going.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New York City metro is a feast for the eyes (not only SFO on steroids, but also giving us Gritty City stuff no modern-US-location metro area can approach), but so is the Upstate New York countryside.  My rad-lib friend in DC, when she&#039;d visit me there in Upstate, found the city I was in &quot;dreary&quot; (I even predicted what word she would use), but she loved the countryside, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I said it then, and I repeat here: If it were only possible to make an economic success of it, a separate State of Erie would be nice, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York City metro is a feast for the eyes (not only SFO on steroids, but also giving us Gritty City stuff no modern-US-location metro area can approach), but so is the Upstate New York countryside.  My rad-lib friend in DC, when she&#39;d visit me there in Upstate, found the city I was in &#8220;dreary&#8221; (I even predicted what word she would use), but she loved the countryside, too.</p>
<p>I said it then, and I repeat here: If it were only possible to make an economic success of it, a separate State of Erie would be nice, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious. I went to Hamilton College, which is about 12 miles from Utica.  There is no more iconic rust belt city than Utica. Drive down the mighty &quot;Arterial&quot; through the heart of the city and you pass blocks and blocks of abandoned warehouses. I&#039;ll never forget attending the Oktoberfest &quot;celebration&quot; at F.X. Matt&#039;s Brewery in the largely-Polish west side. My friends and I were the only people smiling the whole time - except a priest who came out of the brewery doublefisting a few Utica Clubs. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Arterial, by the way, is the biggest piece of mob-kickback useless concrete in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious. I went to Hamilton College, which is about 12 miles from Utica.  There is no more iconic rust belt city than Utica. Drive down the mighty &#8220;Arterial&#8221; through the heart of the city and you pass blocks and blocks of abandoned warehouses. I&#39;ll never forget attending the Oktoberfest &#8220;celebration&#8221; at F.X. Matt&#39;s Brewery in the largely-Polish west side. My friends and I were the only people smiling the whole time &#8211; except a priest who came out of the brewery doublefisting a few Utica Clubs. </p>
<p>The Arterial, by the way, is the biggest piece of mob-kickback useless concrete in America.</p>
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