Comments on: Obama, Clinton and Machiavelli http://themoderatevoice.com/24731/obama-clinton-and-machiavelli/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 30 May 2012 17:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: A Photoshopped Finish « The Progressive Internal Critique http://themoderatevoice.com/24731/obama-clinton-and-machiavelli/comment-page-1/#comment-188102 A Photoshopped Finish « The Progressive Internal Critique Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:48:59 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/political-philosophy/24731/obama-clinton-and-machiavelli/#comment-188102 [...] “I will merely say that these men who at the beginning of a new government were enemies, if they are of a kind to need support to maintain their position, can be very easily gained by the prince, and they are the more compelled to serve him faithfully as they know they must by their deeds cancel the bad opinion previously held of them, and thus the prince will always derive greater help from them than from those who, serving him with greater security, neglect his interests.” Nicollò Machiavelli [...] [...] “I will merely say that these men who at the beginning of a new government were enemies, if they are of a kind to need support to maintain their position, can be very easily gained by the prince, and they are the more compelled to serve him faithfully as they know they must by their deeds cancel the bad opinion previously held of them, and thus the prince will always derive greater help from them than from those who, serving him with greater security, neglect his interests.” Nicollò Machiavelli [...]

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/24731/obama-clinton-and-machiavelli/comment-page-1/#comment-165965 DLS Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:44:08 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/political-philosophy/24731/obama-clinton-and-machiavelli/#comment-165965 Obama already had health care firmly under his thumb. Clinton is kept overseas frequently now. She might still come back "home" and be VP if Biden were to be replaced eventually. Otherwise, Obama is obviously in control.<br><br>And I had to re-read the title of this thread because I was thinking originally of Obama, Clinton, and Matthews, because the last political-gossip news is that Christopher Matthews may be even more of a Democrat than he has been in the media, by running for the Senate (being another celebrity as oft-offputting Al Franken and his Franken-Friends' extra ballots in Minnesota has already been, for this year's election celeb story).<br><br>I heard about the Matthews story once or twice including on the Jesse Jackson (Sr.) "Keep Hope Alive" radio show while on the road yesterday, and frankly, I'd rather see Jackson (Sr.; Jr. likely will replace Obama as Illinois Senator) as Senator before Matthews and the latter's much-bigger mouth. Obama already had health care firmly under his thumb. Clinton is kept overseas frequently now. She might still come back “home” and be VP if Biden were to be replaced eventually. Otherwise, Obama is obviously in control.

And I had to re-read the title of this thread because I was thinking originally of Obama, Clinton, and Matthews, because the last political-gossip news is that Christopher Matthews may be even more of a Democrat than he has been in the media, by running for the Senate (being another celebrity as oft-offputting Al Franken and his Franken-Friends' extra ballots in Minnesota has already been, for this year's election celeb story).

I heard about the Matthews story once or twice including on the Jesse Jackson (Sr.) “Keep Hope Alive” radio show while on the road yesterday, and frankly, I'd rather see Jackson (Sr.; Jr. likely will replace Obama as Illinois Senator) as Senator before Matthews and the latter's much-bigger mouth.

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