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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS- I never knew you were a socialist, LOL!</description>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/24702/a-lesson-for-wall-street-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-165849</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully you realize that in no way is this normal, ordinary, customary, and much less obligatory.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nor is government, least of all federal, intervention in the economy merited.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Having said that, I&#039;m almost at the point where I&#039;d accept or at least note aloud the superiority of the &quot;bottom-up&quot; general-population approach to any federal bailout.  Rather than engage in favoritism, incompetence, or a combination of the two by the Wall Street insider-oriented Treasury Department, I&#039;d say it&#039;s less harmful to have a &quot;citizen dividend&quot; (stupid name, but illustrative nevertheless) issued to all taxpayers.  (It&#039;s morally wrong to favor the deadbeat borrowers at the expense of those who didn&#039;t borrow more than they could afford.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s much more generous of a concession by me than the case of honest environmentalists&#039; concession about the relative substantial environmental superiority of nuclear power over alternatives, but perhaps equally if almost as begrudging.  We shouldn&#039;t do it, in theory, but giving equal chunks of bailout money to all taxpayers is better than the games we&#039;re seeing with favoritism toward some financial firms and their newsworthy misuse of the money.  (It has nothing to do with their reluctance to resume lending; that is fully sane behavior.  Giving money to individuals does not imply they will spend it or resume borrowing, necessarily, either.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If we&#039;re roughly at 300 million (USA), population approximately at replacement level fertility, that&#039;s 150 million adults (taxpayers).  Divide whatever has not only only been spent but what is contemplated on being spent by this 150 million divisor (or choose a better one if you have a better one), and ask yourselves if that would be better, or not as bad, as what we see now.  Or which benefiaries are more, or less-less, deserving, at the very least.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[scowl]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully you realize that in no way is this normal, ordinary, customary, and much less obligatory.</p>
<p>Nor is government, least of all federal, intervention in the economy merited.</p>
<p>Having said that, I&#39;m almost at the point where I&#39;d accept or at least note aloud the superiority of the &#8220;bottom-up&#8221; general-population approach to any federal bailout.  Rather than engage in favoritism, incompetence, or a combination of the two by the Wall Street insider-oriented Treasury Department, I&#39;d say it&#39;s less harmful to have a &#8220;citizen dividend&#8221; (stupid name, but illustrative nevertheless) issued to all taxpayers.  (It&#39;s morally wrong to favor the deadbeat borrowers at the expense of those who didn&#39;t borrow more than they could afford.)</p>
<p>It&#39;s much more generous of a concession by me than the case of honest environmentalists&#39; concession about the relative substantial environmental superiority of nuclear power over alternatives, but perhaps equally if almost as begrudging.  We shouldn&#39;t do it, in theory, but giving equal chunks of bailout money to all taxpayers is better than the games we&#39;re seeing with favoritism toward some financial firms and their newsworthy misuse of the money.  (It has nothing to do with their reluctance to resume lending; that is fully sane behavior.  Giving money to individuals does not imply they will spend it or resume borrowing, necessarily, either.)</p>
<p>If we&#39;re roughly at 300 million (USA), population approximately at replacement level fertility, that&#39;s 150 million adults (taxpayers).  Divide whatever has not only only been spent but what is contemplated on being spent by this 150 million divisor (or choose a better one if you have a better one), and ask yourselves if that would be better, or not as bad, as what we see now.  Or which benefiaries are more, or less-less, deserving, at the very least.</p>
<p>[scowl]</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great story, Steve Demos, founder of White Wave and creator of Silk.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;his company was sold to Dean Foods, Inc. in a highly publicized $295 million transaction. At that time White Wave had about 150 employees, of which 100 had worked for the company for 2 years or more. In an unprecedented move for a packaged foods business, Steve and his managers refused to sell unless every employee who had been with the company for 2 years or more received something from the sale. The lawyers were astounded by Steve&#039;s request—it took them three months to work out the legal mechanics, which could have jeopardized the sale of the company. In the end, $15 million of the sale price was handed out to about 100 people, many of whom didn&#039;t speak English. One, a truck driver named Pete, received almost $400,000. There was no legal obligation to do this, and Steve lights up when he speaks about handing them the checks and sometimes having to explain through a translator why they were getting this money.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thewellnessrevolution.paulzanepilzer.com/stevedemos.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thewellnessrevolution.paulzanepilzer.com...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great story, Steve Demos, founder of White Wave and creator of Silk.</p>
<p>&#8220;his company was sold to Dean Foods, Inc. in a highly publicized $295 million transaction. At that time White Wave had about 150 employees, of which 100 had worked for the company for 2 years or more. In an unprecedented move for a packaged foods business, Steve and his managers refused to sell unless every employee who had been with the company for 2 years or more received something from the sale. The lawyers were astounded by Steve&#39;s request—it took them three months to work out the legal mechanics, which could have jeopardized the sale of the company. In the end, $15 million of the sale price was handed out to about 100 people, many of whom didn&#39;t speak English. One, a truck driver named Pete, received almost $400,000. There was no legal obligation to do this, and Steve lights up when he speaks about handing them the checks and sometimes having to explain through a translator why they were getting this money.&#8221;</p>
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