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	<title>Comments on: Progressive Republicans:  Why Bother?</title>
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		<title>By: BarkyBree</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/24628/progressive-republicans-why-bother/comment-page-1/#comment-165542</link>
		<dc:creator>BarkyBree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s GOP is hell-and-gone from TR! TR was an environmentalist, very anti-monopoly, was not a fan of concentrated wealth, and mistrusted too much government power. He was clearly a blue-blood, so he was socially &amp; economically &quot;one of them&quot;, but it was an uneasy fit at best. Today, he&#039;d barely recognize the party he barely recognized when he was part of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only way the GOP could possibly become progressive is if they simply find new buzzwords and a new marketing strategy for the same old crap they&#039;ve been pushing for years: increased wealth for them at the expense of the nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#39;s GOP is hell-and-gone from TR! TR was an environmentalist, very anti-monopoly, was not a fan of concentrated wealth, and mistrusted too much government power. He was clearly a blue-blood, so he was socially &#038; economically &#8220;one of them&#8221;, but it was an uneasy fit at best. Today, he&#39;d barely recognize the party he barely recognized when he was part of it.</p>
<p>The only way the GOP could possibly become progressive is if they simply find new buzzwords and a new marketing strategy for the same old crap they&#39;ve been pushing for years: increased wealth for them at the expense of the nation.</p>
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		<title>By: ClarkAspen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClarkAspen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate his wanting to include more minorities in the GOP. I have to say, however, that I found his thinking really problematic for 3 reasons.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, it&#039;s simply not true that &quot;progressive traditionally refers to Republicans.&quot; While Teddy R did run as a progressive, the movement predominantly felt more comfortable within the Democratic party. Woodrow Wilson was the first president that implemented a slew of progressive policies. These included the income tax, the federal reserve, and a foreign policy designed to make the world &quot;safe&quot; for democracy. The progressive movement simply ignored the Consitution and sought to expand the power of the presidency. Gene Healy&#039;s The Cult of the Presidency has a good discussion about how progressives sought to increase the President&#039;s power. Paul Johnson&#039;s A History of the American People also has a broader discussion about the progressive movement&#039;s impact on turn on the 20th century politics.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second, while he didn&#039;t use the word to describe himself, we&#039;ve had a progressive Republican in the White House for 8 years. The Iraq War, the Medicare prescription plan, and No Child Left Behind were all implemented to make the world a better place. That&#039;s been the problem all along! There was a time when Republicans at least pretended to understand that government&#039;s actions needed to be limited lest it created incalculable harm. The party simply does not understand that anymore. That&#039;s why it&#039;s no better than the Democrats in that sense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Third, his emphasis seems to be more on rebuilding an effective party rather than adopting effective policies. Why should I care if I put on a red shirt instead of a blue shirt if I don&#039;t do anything differently? That distinction seems to be lost on many Republicans, particularly its leadership.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Contrary to what many say, we don&#039;t need a third party, we need a second party. If this interview is any indication, it&#039;s going to be a long time before that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate his wanting to include more minorities in the GOP. I have to say, however, that I found his thinking really problematic for 3 reasons.</p>
<p>First, it&#39;s simply not true that &#8220;progressive traditionally refers to Republicans.&#8221; While Teddy R did run as a progressive, the movement predominantly felt more comfortable within the Democratic party. Woodrow Wilson was the first president that implemented a slew of progressive policies. These included the income tax, the federal reserve, and a foreign policy designed to make the world &#8220;safe&#8221; for democracy. The progressive movement simply ignored the Consitution and sought to expand the power of the presidency. Gene Healy&#39;s The Cult of the Presidency has a good discussion about how progressives sought to increase the President&#39;s power. Paul Johnson&#39;s A History of the American People also has a broader discussion about the progressive movement&#39;s impact on turn on the 20th century politics.</p>
<p>Second, while he didn&#39;t use the word to describe himself, we&#39;ve had a progressive Republican in the White House for 8 years. The Iraq War, the Medicare prescription plan, and No Child Left Behind were all implemented to make the world a better place. That&#39;s been the problem all along! There was a time when Republicans at least pretended to understand that government&#39;s actions needed to be limited lest it created incalculable harm. The party simply does not understand that anymore. That&#39;s why it&#39;s no better than the Democrats in that sense.</p>
<p>Third, his emphasis seems to be more on rebuilding an effective party rather than adopting effective policies. Why should I care if I put on a red shirt instead of a blue shirt if I don&#39;t do anything differently? That distinction seems to be lost on many Republicans, particularly its leadership.</p>
<p>Contrary to what many say, we don&#39;t need a third party, we need a second party. If this interview is any indication, it&#39;s going to be a long time before that happens.</p>
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