Comments on: In the Year 2012, the Republicans… http://themoderatevoice.com/24544/in-the-year-2012-the-republicans/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:41:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: msultfs http://themoderatevoice.com/24544/in-the-year-2012-the-republicans/comment-page-1/#comment-183513 msultfs Wed, 06 May 2009 20:23:32 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/sarah-palin/24544/in-the-year-2012-the-republicans/#comment-183513 We're in deep trouble. Obama is a Socialist and is completely ruining this country We're in deep trouble. Obama is a Socialist and is completely ruining this country

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/24544/in-the-year-2012-the-republicans/comment-page-1/#comment-165149 kritt11 Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:33:48 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/sarah-palin/24544/in-the-year-2012-the-republicans/#comment-165149 When the Democrats have been the majority party in the past, they have seldom rubber-stamped the president's policies. The Carter years and LBJ years come to mind. I'm sure Obama will start with a great honeymoon. Then factions will split the Democratic party and the Blue Dogs may side with the Republicans if policy gets too liberal.<br><br>Also- I believe that there was a great anti-Bush vote in the last two elections, and many seats in the GOP were lost because members chose not to run again or were enveloped in scandal. Eventually, the Democrats will face some losses from the latter two. I have no doubt the Republicans will be there to capitalize. When the Democrats have been the majority party in the past, they have seldom rubber-stamped the president's policies. The Carter years and LBJ years come to mind. I'm sure Obama will start with a great honeymoon. Then factions will split the Democratic party and the Blue Dogs may side with the Republicans if policy gets too liberal.

Also- I believe that there was a great anti-Bush vote in the last two elections, and many seats in the GOP were lost because members chose not to run again or were enveloped in scandal. Eventually, the Democrats will face some losses from the latter two. I have no doubt the Republicans will be there to capitalize.

]]> By: AsherJ http://themoderatevoice.com/24544/in-the-year-2012-the-republicans/comment-page-1/#comment-165132 AsherJ Sun, 23 Nov 2008 02:30:17 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/sarah-palin/24544/in-the-year-2012-the-republicans/#comment-165132 PattonGuy, but the present is quite unlike the past, in terms of demographics. You have expanding demographics, blacks and hispanics, who are completely bought and paid for by the Democrat Party, since those two voting blocs have managed to leverage their vote as a whole into massive resource transfers to themselves. Note, that I am not morally condemning this behavior since it is perfectly economically rational.<br><br>The Republican Party needs to get 70+ percent of the vote just to compete nationally and I don't see any current Republicans going about looking for a platform to achieve this. PattonGuy, but the present is quite unlike the past, in terms of demographics. You have expanding demographics, blacks and hispanics, who are completely bought and paid for by the Democrat Party, since those two voting blocs have managed to leverage their vote as a whole into massive resource transfers to themselves. Note, that I am not morally condemning this behavior since it is perfectly economically rational.

The Republican Party needs to get 70+ percent of the vote just to compete nationally and I don't see any current Republicans going about looking for a platform to achieve this.

]]> By: PattonGuy http://themoderatevoice.com/24544/in-the-year-2012-the-republicans/comment-page-1/#comment-165117 PattonGuy Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:56:00 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/sarah-palin/24544/in-the-year-2012-the-republicans/#comment-165117 I really think 2012 is too early for the Republicans to reverse their "downward momentum," so to speak. But I disagree with superdestroyer that the election of Obama and a broad Democratic majority in Congress means the end of the two party system. There have been instances in the past where the same party has controlled the executive and legislative branches, and yet the two party system remained intact. (Shameless self-promotion: I already wrote about the Republicans' future <a href=http://mehwtf.wordpress.com/2008/11/13/dont-write-the-republicans-eulogy-yet/>right here.</a>) I really think 2012 is too early for the Republicans to reverse their “downward momentum,” so to speak. But I disagree with superdestroyer that the election of Obama and a broad Democratic majority in Congress means the end of the two party system. There have been instances in the past where the same party has controlled the executive and legislative branches, and yet the two party system remained intact. (Shameless self-promotion: I already wrote about the Republicans' future right here.)

]]> By: superdestroyer http://themoderatevoice.com/24544/in-the-year-2012-the-republicans/comment-page-1/#comment-165106 superdestroyer Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:20:49 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/sarah-palin/24544/in-the-year-2012-the-republicans/#comment-165106 Who cares about th eRepulbicans in 2012. They will lose more seats in the House and SEante in 2010 and after redistricting in 2010, will lose even more more seats in the house in 2012. No matter who they nominate, the Republicans will not get one more black, hispanic, jewish, gay or single female vote than the Repubicans received in 2008. Since married whites will be a smaller portion of the population in 2012 than in 2008, the Republicans will have even lss chance of winning then. <br><br>The next relavent president election will be in 2016 when Obama successor will be choosen sometime between the Iowa caucuses and the Democratic SuperTuesday primaries since by 2016 the entire Republican nominating process will be irrelevant. Who cares about th eRepulbicans in 2012. They will lose more seats in the House and SEante in 2010 and after redistricting in 2010, will lose even more more seats in the house in 2012. No matter who they nominate, the Republicans will not get one more black, hispanic, jewish, gay or single female vote than the Repubicans received in 2008. Since married whites will be a smaller portion of the population in 2012 than in 2008, the Republicans will have even lss chance of winning then.

The next relavent president election will be in 2016 when Obama successor will be choosen sometime between the Iowa caucuses and the Democratic SuperTuesday primaries since by 2016 the entire Republican nominating process will be irrelevant.

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