LOL! And you wanted the world to believe that Hillary, someone who can't clean up fiscal messes in NY (or clean up after other people's messes) was the absolutely best and most qualified candidate to be president…. Haha! Now that reality has set back in and it's apparent that Hill can't clean up messes in her own state (a job she was elected to do), suddenly she's qualified to solve the world's problems….

Thankfully there isn't a solar system-wide government because if there were one, then we'd be told that Hillary would only be qualified for that task, and that anything smaller would be beneath her abilities….

But I do agree that Hillary isn't responsible for all of NY's problems. But she should be able to do the job she said she could do. I actually went from being ambivalent over Hillary's Sec of State position to not liking it at all because of Jazz's post. He brings up some good points about Hillary being a lackluster performer in the Senate and her using the Senate seat as a stepping stone for her own benefit, rather than being truly concerned about New Yorkers' needs.

“She never did strike me as one to stay at home and clean up other people's messes.”

Even the messes she promised to clean up at home? (Of course, it really has to be “home.”)

Or her own?

People elect people to do their best. It's very possible that Hillary's strong points are in networking on a global scale rather than trying to mop up fiscal messes in New York. She never did strike me as one to stay at home and clean up other people's messes.

http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/election-08/hill…

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2…

(Floor yielded)

I'm confident you never believed any of those promises. They were aimed mainly at New York City and at the major cities Upstate, that's all.

http://mwhodges.home.att.net/ny-map.gif

Incidentally, New York City, notorious mainly for its bankrupting itself through politics and policies that made it the pinnacle of liberalism for decades, is still in godawful shape, as is the state of New York (which is where the city should look for any bailout, never to Washington), and it's interesting that whereas Detroit, another Blue Nation city and state (the city itself is a wasteland — the new city government cannot determine what the city's finances actually are, and the city is asking for, you guessed it, a federal bailout), has a reliance on a failed-model old automobile industry, New York, city and state, are reliant on Wall Street for much of their sustenance, and they are hurting in their own way currently. While Obama is shunting Clinton aside and out of domestic affairs and related interference with Obama in these affairs, Clinton may actually be relieved to no longer go through the pretense of “representing” New York when there are all kinds of financial problems there and in the rest of the country.

[Note: Spending reductions are anathema to Old America Blue Nation bureaucrats, which include Michael Bloomberg; they instinctively and arrogantly respond robotically to shortfalls with tax increases or desires for these. I remember well the entrenched fiefdoms in Upstate and the attitude of the government people there. Shortall? Taxes "must" be increased, then. Arrgh.]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122688356681132…

Yet to this day many see New York as still a route not only to prominence (it is still important given its physical size as well as economic clout along with Pennsylvania in the Northeast — New Jersey, few can understand that well) but a route all the way to the Presidency. That's “Old America”!

I've written before about Blue Nation bad developments and failures before, most often on here about Michigan (with which I'm also familiar), but what's true there is true about New York (and Upstate is getting killed — it must compete not only with Georgia or Virginia but even with other nearby Blue Nation locations) and other “Old America” parts of the country. (Simply throwing huge amounts of money at it, as we did decades ago with the “urban problem,” is no viable kind of new Marshall Plan for the Blue Nation Rust Belt industrial-and-hinterland zone.)

[Chapters 1 and 2 are particularly relevent here -- see Figures 4 and 5 in Chapter 2, especially]

http://www.ppinys.org/reports/2003/censusbook.pdf

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/national/20…

Oh, one last musing about “New York's” Hillary Clinton: Maybe if Clinton does leave her Senate seat, Alan Keyes can run for it eventually and from there seek the White House again on behalf of social conservatives and the Religious Right one day. [wink; grin] More realistically, September 11, Rudy Giuliani, September 11, is probably, September 11, no more likely now, September 11, and probably less now, September 11, than a few years ago, September 11, to get the Senate seat than somebody else who, if he were honest, would be a Democrat now and would have been his entire political career — the darling of the chattering classes, New York Mayor Bloomberg. [rolling eyes at childishness and silliness surrounding the man] He's perfect for the exploitive role given his disgusting misconduct about term limits in the city of New York (which is _not_ the center of the universe or even of this nation).

And please, may we _not_ see scumbag Eliot Spitzer try for that Senate seat or the loser who has been aping him and continuing to exploit the easily exploitable people in New York, Andrew Cuomo.

We know it's going to be a blue man or woman (which includes Bloomberg, if people are honest).

[Note colors are _reversed_ below]

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.ph…

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.ph…

NO FEDERAL BAILOUT!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/nyregion/21tr…

Paterson's replacement will be an interesting one. Hopefully he will pick somebody from Upstate, like Mayor Byron Brown of Buffalo or one of the Congressmen(women) in western New York.