Comments on: Rival, Retreads and Other Irrelevance http://themoderatevoice.com/24490/rival-retreads-and-other-irrelevance/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:40:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/24490/rival-retreads-and-other-irrelevance/comment-page-1/#comment-164851 DLS Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:41:45 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/change/24490/rival-retreads-and-other-irrelevance/#comment-164851 Sorry for disjointed part of the footnote.<br><br>Floor yielded... Sorry for disjointed part of the footnote.

Floor yielded…

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/24490/rival-retreads-and-other-irrelevance/comment-page-1/#comment-164849 DLS Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:29:17 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/change/24490/rival-retreads-and-other-irrelevance/#comment-164849 Rudi -- I believe Obama is not going to be like Clinton (the _real_ Dixie Mafia and other cronies from Arkansas and combining them with activists in the first term, more pragmatic choices in the second) or George W. Bush (bringing with him his Texas contingent, combined with Reagan-Bush retreads). It's not even a combination only of Chicago people and Clinton people (some retreads, others simply happening to have risen to prominence in the Clinton years) and cream skimmings from the until-now-largely-unnoticed "black elite." Other Dem people who have been appearing with him in public and otherwise associating with him* such as Janet Napolitano, stars outside Washington itself, in other words, are coming into his administration.<br><br>In addition, we've seen one change today that was developing that shows a move leftward in the Dem Congress and a different orientation than previously. Waxman from Hollywood area (CA) is replacing Dingell (from Dearborn and one with direct ties into Detroit automaker society, not only the industry) to lead the Energy and Commerce Committee. This is not only a payback _for_ Nancy Pelosi but a definitely leftward shift and a likely true change. Expect him to be tougher on the auto makers (in Detroit's case, those that survive) and to threaten other environmentalist policy goals of concern to many of us. For starry-eyed kids and environmentalists, well, you people now get to gloat, gloat, gloat. (And he's likely to increase the ambition as well as regulatory nature of health care reform. And the health insurers are _already_ trying to reach accomodation with Washington. This, _prior_ to the replacement of Dingell by an environmentalist and anti-corporate attack dog!)<br><br><br><a href="http://features.csmonitor.com/environment/2008/11/20/waxman-unseats-dingell-as-house-energy-committee-chair/">http://features.csmonitor.com/environment/2008/...</a><br><br><a href="http://www.freep.com/article/20081120/NEWS15/81120032?imw=Y">http://www.freep.com/article/20081120/NEWS15/81...</a><br><br><a href="http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081120/METRO/811200435">http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2...</a><br><br><a href="http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/waxman-wrestles-gavel-from-dingell-2008-11-20.html">http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/waxman-wres...</a><br><br><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/11/20/will-waxman-the-new-boss-be-the-same-as-the-old-boss/">http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/11/20/will-wax...</a><br><br><a href="http://www.forbes.com/business/2008/11/20/waxman-dingell-congress-biz_wash-cx_bw_1120waxman.html">http://www.forbes.com/business/2008/11/20/waxma...</a><br><br><a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2008/11/what_waxmans_win_means.html?hpid=topnews">http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefi...</a><br><br><br>Today, with Waxman replacing Dingell, change is definitely happening. It's not limited to the Executive branch. Seniority in Congress has been defied.<br><br><br>* The starry-eyed kids fixated on largely-fictitious "green jobs" have at times said that Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, who faces term limitation and has long been thought of as going to Washington. I think it's a silly stretch to envision her in a principal energy-related position simply because she has talked about "green jobs" (in a converted or post-conventional Michigan). But she could be the Secretary of Commerce, anyway, and if not that, the US trade representative, given how much she's been hustling world-wide scrambling to get new development and jobs here in Michigan.<br><br>[musings]<br><br><a href="http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081105/POLITICS01/811050486">http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AI...</a><br><br><a href="http://www.freep.com/article/20081109/COL32/811090328/?imw=Y">http://www.freep.com/article/20081109/COL32/811...</a><br><br><a href="http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/transition/2008/11/is-obama-cabinet-in-granholms.html">http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/transition/2008/11/...</a> Rudi — I believe Obama is not going to be like Clinton (the _real_ Dixie Mafia and other cronies from Arkansas and combining them with activists in the first term, more pragmatic choices in the second) or George W. Bush (bringing with him his Texas contingent, combined with Reagan-Bush retreads). It's not even a combination only of Chicago people and Clinton people (some retreads, others simply happening to have risen to prominence in the Clinton years) and cream skimmings from the until-now-largely-unnoticed “black elite.” Other Dem people who have been appearing with him in public and otherwise associating with him* such as Janet Napolitano, stars outside Washington itself, in other words, are coming into his administration.

In addition, we've seen one change today that was developing that shows a move leftward in the Dem Congress and a different orientation than previously. Waxman from Hollywood area (CA) is replacing Dingell (from Dearborn and one with direct ties into Detroit automaker society, not only the industry) to lead the Energy and Commerce Committee. This is not only a payback _for_ Nancy Pelosi but a definitely leftward shift and a likely true change. Expect him to be tougher on the auto makers (in Detroit's case, those that survive) and to threaten other environmentalist policy goals of concern to many of us. For starry-eyed kids and environmentalists, well, you people now get to gloat, gloat, gloat. (And he's likely to increase the ambition as well as regulatory nature of health care reform. And the health insurers are _already_ trying to reach accomodation with Washington. This, _prior_ to the replacement of Dingell by an environmentalist and anti-corporate attack dog!)

http://features.csmonitor.com/environment/2008/…

http://www.freep.com/article/20081120/NEWS15/81…

http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2…

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/waxman-wres…

http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/11/20/will-wax…

http://www.forbes.com/business/2008/11/20/waxma…

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefi…

Today, with Waxman replacing Dingell, change is definitely happening. It's not limited to the Executive branch. Seniority in Congress has been defied.

* The starry-eyed kids fixated on largely-fictitious “green jobs” have at times said that Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, who faces term limitation and has long been thought of as going to Washington. I think it's a silly stretch to envision her in a principal energy-related position simply because she has talked about “green jobs” (in a converted or post-conventional Michigan). But she could be the Secretary of Commerce, anyway, and if not that, the US trade representative, given how much she's been hustling world-wide scrambling to get new development and jobs here in Michigan.

[musings]

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AI…

http://www.freep.com/article/20081109/COL32/811…

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/transition/2008/11/…

]]> By: Rudi http://themoderatevoice.com/24490/rival-retreads-and-other-irrelevance/comment-page-1/#comment-164814 Rudi Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:02:04 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/change/24490/rival-retreads-and-other-irrelevance/#comment-164814 Obama can't repeat the Carter fiasco and bring in the Chicago version of the 'Georgia mafia'. Bush also had problems with Miers, Gonzales and McClellan. While Hughes was qualified for texas schools, her background didn't make her the one person to convince the Arab world as an Under Secretary to the <a href="http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4&section=0&article=103111&d=2&m=11&y=2007">Muslim world</a>. Obama can't repeat the Carter fiasco and bring in the Chicago version of the 'Georgia mafia'. Bush also had problems with Miers, Gonzales and McClellan. While Hughes was qualified for texas schools, her background didn't make her the one person to convince the Arab world as an Under Secretary to the Muslim world.

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