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What People Are Forgetting About Bailouts

GM Building in its heyday

Jerry Remmers recently had a guest post on TMV that summarized what is at stake in the Big Three Bailout. I think he did an excellent job of summarizing the situation, and would just say that the comments add in the important piece that bankruptcy might work in an unexpected way.

Still, I am quite conflicted about whether I personally support the bailout. I wish to take this particular opportunity to describe the key macroeconomic points that we should keep in mind but are not being talked about widely. This will kind of provide an overview of how to think about future bailouts — of which there will be many. I have a feeling that most people that read this will be absolutely shocked at what has been going on the last few months.

There are two huge pairs of business characteristics that are the fundamental drivers of the economy, and we are in historical times on each. The first pair of ideas is credit availability and solvency. I don’t think I have to waste many words describing how we are a credit driven economy, as that’s obvious. What is of more importance is that nearly all traditional approaches to downturns involve increasing the availability of credit. This is precisely what the Fed has done by lowering interest rates, and the bailout of AIG and the financial system were technically to spur credit availability. In fact, the White House and Congress are angry at banks for not increasing the amount of credit they are offering.

The problem is that we have too much debt already, and it must be paid back. Now in “normal” times (i.e. since the end of WWII) the growth of the economy has been directly tied to credit availability. The monetary policy was merely to ensure that credit did not become too cheap, as that would create too much inflation, nor too expensive as that created recessions. This is the mindset that policy makers held until recently and most of public discourse still assumes.

I would argue that at this moment of time, this is the incorrect mindset. I detailed in three long posts why I believe the amount of debt that has accumulated is so gigantic that the emphasis is not on credit availability, but solvency. Our country has become so indebted – with a lot of the debt poured into asset bubbles – that increasing the amount of credit is not working, for we can’t even be expected to pay off what we have accumulated so far.

The treasury/Fed finally accepted this within the last couple months and are now in pure panic mode. They are literally feeding hundreds of billions into the system long term (in public through the bailout bill) and over one trillion dollars through short term Fed mechanisms (much of it will continue to be rolled over so in effect they are long term). It hasn’t been discussed much in public, but the Fed is now lending at nearly a 0% interest rate (effective rate is 0.35% currently) and accepting nearly anything as collateral from the banks. I read a quip that according to statues there is nothing that prevents the Fed from taking a dead dog as collateral, and we’re almost there.

In essence, there is a transfer of hundreds of billions of dollars of bad loans directly into newly printed cash. This amazing chart demonstrates the enormity of what has recently occurred, pretty much in the dark.

Uh oh

While on paper the collateral is merely for loans that will be paid back, in reality it is guaranteed that the collateral is highly overvalued, but the Fed has refused FOIA requests to release what it is doing. It is uncertain whether the values they are taking are 10% less than market value or 10% of market value. Since there is no way that banks can make all that money back, they will eventually have to either default or get a reworking of terms and all that money will be directly on the taxpayer bill.

It is the reason why some people are scared that there will be hyperinflation, where inflation will reach an annual rate of 20% or more, the dollar will collapse, and effective interest rates will shoot up to 15% or more. However, in order for there to be hyperinflation it takes two to tango and that gets to my second pair of crucial concepts.

The other huge mechanism that drives the economy is consumption and how that compares to savings. I think most everyone has heard that we have had a near zero savings rate the past couple of years, the first time that has happened since the Great Depression. What has gotten less attention is that as the economy has gotten worse, consumer behavior has changed massively and at rates far faster than anyone predicted. As this chart shows there has been a huge spike in personal savings and so it’s no wonder that consumer expenditures have collapsed. [Note: the last three months seem very low and not at all what I’ve read elsewhere, or squaring with inflation/sales numbers coming out. I would assume that like most government data it is subject to wild revisions over a full year, with the greatest revision normally occurring after the next quarter. I’ve read from multiple places that said the savings rate seemed to be around 6%, so in January it will be curious to see if the last three months change].

Basically what is happening is that the government is trying to save the economy by giving tons of money to banks and businesses, but none of that is “trickling down” in the form of wages and people are suddenly rushing to save money that they “should” have been saving for the past decade, so they are not able to create the inflation (they don’t want hyperinflation, but that’s just the opinion that they’d overshoot) that they want. As this pair of posts (here and here) points out brilliantly, the market is forecasting deflation and contrary to the popular mythos, we did try to stop the Great Depression and in basically the EXACT same way we are now.

This post talks further about the eerily similar parallels between our response today and back then, and goes on to point out that, “The recapitalization of banks alone was not enough to get them to start lending, however. They didn’t have enough credit-worthy borrowers.” This is precisely the problem: people are in too much personal debt, are forced to cut back on consumption just to service their debt and save for bad times, which leads to huge collapses in demand/layoffs, etc.

In effect, what is happening is that we have been living beyond our means for far too long, and are being forced to change lifestyle whether we like it or not. The key question then becomes: how do we respond and move forward? And that is where the auto bailout and certain bailouts that are already on the horizon come in.

A lot of focus on the auto bailout seems to imply that the two options are to give them money and that will help them limp along and continue to service their benefits and create stuff, or to let them go bankrupt and either they will reorganize or go into liquidation. As discussed in the guest post, letting them go bankrupt would probably lead to massive job losses and a huge number of people put onto government social nets. However, both arguments miss a couple of crucial points.

First of all, auto demand has absolutely fallen off a cliff.

Retail sales YOY

It’s not just the Big Three either, even Toyota and Honda are seeing similar decreases. The entire idea behind a government bailout of any sort is that it will prevent a company from failing that would otherwise be able to create products people would buy. If there is no demand for new autos, then how is giving them $25 billion going to help? A lot of the pro-bailout calculus doesn’t take into account that there is no free lunch, and a proper analysis would look at different scenarios of projected demand and then try to say how much the government would ultimately have to give them in order for them to survive. If the Big Three revenue falls 80% and stays there, then the government is going to have to make up the rest, and that’s money that could be used for far better things.

On the flip side, the anti-bailout people point out that not all of the jobs will be lost, as Toyota (who I believe is actually the #1 employer of US auto jobs now) and other companies will step in to fill the void. But again, these people aren’t thinking about the demand side either. There is a good chance that the other companies have too much capacity as well. I’m not sure that the worst case people are necessarily wrong about how many people’s lives would be ruined. On the other hand, a government bailout of the Big Three would by definition cut into Toyota’s business and they would be forced to cut back extensively as well. Not only would there still be tens of thousands of jobs lost, but it would be from the company that has had much more foresight. That doesn’t sound like something we want.

Now here’s where I have to sound grim for once. Take the auto industry and extend it to pretty much everything. There are nearly no parts of the economy that don’t have extreme excesses in capacity – even energy prices have collapsed as we are driving much less. In fact, some people that have gotten things right so far are saying that there could be 7-10% decrease in consumer demand over the next year. That is entering Great Depression territory folks.

This is why I am tentatively against the auto bailout. We have a gigantic number of cars already in service, and even without the Big Three we would still have plenty of capacity to make more. In the grand scheme of things, we must move beyond “the invisible hand” of the market to fix things, but we must start listening to it more when trying to design targeted interventions and social safety nets. To me that is the conservative way to approach the situation, as it is rooted in the skepticism that we can change what is already naturally in motion, but looks for areas to minimize the damage. I hope I do not come off callously or glibly as I noted seems to be a problem.

We are still talking about each bailout as it is individual and not part of the greater whole. I definitely think it’s important to calmly talk about the peculiarities of each crisis, but without a cohesive strategy we are pretty much doomed. We need to start deciding what massive, country wide steps we want to take, and the economy has a good chance of changing as much and as quickly as it did during WWII for instance. In my next post I will discuss in further detail how falling consumption is the problem to all of this, what the traditional response is and what makes us unique.

  • DLS
    The banks cannot (morally) be required to lend when they don't wish to. This is totally separate from whatever ill will we may have about the bailout of the banks (which was wrong, I say) and the spending of much of the money so far given to them on bonuses, junkets, and other benefits enjoyed by the banks' managers.

    People cannot (morally) be required to borrow when they don't wish to, or to spend money when they don't wish to. In particular, it is wrong to insist that people spend, or be angry if they do not spend, when they would rather retire personal debt (and morally, saving is also superior).

    Do not be surprised of a deflationary scenario develops, not only due to fall-off of demand but because of economic contraction.


    As for the Detroit automakers, which not only do not "define" the "auto industry" in the USA and are failing from poor choices and a model for their labor-business enterprise that is decades obsolete (they learned nothing from Chrysler in the early 1980s), despite push polls and misleading statements from Detroit and its cheerleaders, most people would oppose an unconditional bailout and don't see a problem with Detroit being forced to reorganize and "right-size," to do what it should have done on its own decades ago.

    The best (least morally offensive) and most logical basis for intervention is to provide support as needed after Chapter 11 bankruptcy by the Detroit automakers and consequent reorganization and "rightsizing."
  • DLS
    "We have a gigantic number of cars already in service, and even without the Big Three we would still have plenty of capacity to make more."

    And even "foreign" (in fact, often US-made) "import" cars wear out, eventually, and will need replacing. (That applies to trucks as well, which is why Ford is proceeding with its gutsy but also logical choice to produce and provide its next generation of the F-150 pickup truck. Many businesses and others who need trucks as _trucks_ will want a new truck, eventually, and "downsizing" from a 350 or 250 to a more efficient F-150 is something that Ford could advertize to enjoy additional sales.)

    Detroit in particular has _too_much_ capacity (factories and employees) and needs to shrink to meet its actual market share.

    Side note: Detroit is, or at least was, doing fine in Europe, and in China, and one of the companies at least is going into Russia. It's North America and the bloated UAW and dealer network and other problems that are wrecking the company and have been long in need of reforms.
  • Manchester2
    When my wife and I recently took at trip to N. Ireland, we rented a sporty little 2007 Ford Fiesta. That regular car got 45 mpg! Why isn't it being sold here in the U.S.? Instead, we have to settle for something that might get 30 m.p.g., maybe a Chevy Cobalt. Are oil companies in bed with U.S. automakers, preventing the production of fuel efficient models so they can make more money on gasoline sales?
  • Brodiejr
    I have to give credit to Astin Cutcher, which totally surprised me! He made the comment on the Bill Maher Show that the automakers should go to the oil companies for help. With recordbreaking profits they are in a great position to help the automakers, and such an act is in the best interests of both the oil companies and the automakers.
  • Brodiejr
    We visited Scotland and England last summer and noticed not just very fuel efficient Fords but GM Products as well. The problem is that both Ford and GM market super efficient diesel powered vehicles that market specialists working for these companies believe would not sell here in this country. The belief is that Americans wouldn't like diesel cars because they smell and run loud. I had a diesel Mercedes and my only complaint was it was a bear to start on subfreezing days.
    It was the only big roomy car I knew of that got 30 mpg.
  • Brodiejr
    At first I was all for letting go down the drain and then I realized that the Humvee used by our troops in the Middle East was a GM product, the Abrams M-1 Main Battle Tank is a Chrysler product, and Ford has been responsible for a variety of combat vehicles. If we need to be capable of wartime production.
  • DaveA
    Personally I think they need to reoganize and right size. Whatever approach is take though, we can't afford them disappearing that is for sure.

    How about a much smaller bailout design to refocus efforts on more eco freindly cars and gaurentee warranties to consumers? Then add a bankruptcy for a "reset" of UAW contracts to sane levels / health liability, and management bonuses. In return for the bailout, and a fast track reset of UAW / liabilites, Uncle same gets a fair stake in the auto companies which can be sold off some years later to repay the bailout.
  • mikkel
    Yes I'm curious to see what is proposed and am cautiously optimistic that Obama has repeatedly said that any bailout must be in a way that ensures a "sustainable" industry. Hence the reason for me being "tentatively" opposed as I am pessimistic that such drastic steps will be part of the final proposal or that the government's idea of the "right size" is anywhere close to accurate. The banks are getting $250 billion but still are giving out $80 billion in dividends for instance, and the government is trying to get them to expand and leveraged further.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    "On the flip side, the anti-bailout people point out that not all of the jobs will be lost, as Toyota (who I believe is actually the #1 employer of US auto jobs now) and other companies will step in to fill the void."

    This is complete BS. How does Toyota fill the void of lost jobs with the Big 3? The foreign manufacturers refuse to move outside of the protective envelope of the South, which despises unions and therefore protects them from the "threat" of the UAW. Are the workers expected to somehow miraculously relocate in today's housing and credit market? How many will still be unemployed? Is there any real appreciation of the complete inadequacy of the safety net our country offers our people? I really doubt it.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    I found this quote from a NYT article about the UAW and the "bailout" argument telling.

    Mr. Gettelfinger, who started in the auto industry in 1964 on a Ford assembly line in Louisville, Ky., will need a thick skin at the hearings, said financier Wilbur Ross, who has interests in auto-parts firms dependent on Detroit.

    “I think for a lot of the Republican senators, this gives them a chance to give the union payback for the election,” he said.

    Emphasis mine. How far would they be willing to go for payback? I have to be honest and say that if in fact there are United States Senators willing to let these workers lose their jobs and go through other major dislocations and suffering for that reason I would be disgusted by them and hope that this would be the last time they would be elected to office. I hope that this just means a thorough grilling, not actual retribution against the union members.
  • mikkel
    Yeah well I was trying to be fair to their argument and then dismiss it by saying that Toyota wouldn't need it anyway, but the problems run much deeper than what you point out. Like many others have said, a lot of the jobs aren't going to be in the companies directly, but in auxiliary companies that makes parts and the like. I seriously doubt that Toyota will start needing to utilize those companies much, as the existing supply lines could just crank out more...and it's not like they are going to buy the GM manufacturing lines.

    Still I think that it is easier to argue that the jobs most likely will be lost because of aggregate demand issues rather than focusing on details like union jobs and intricacies of supply chains. Basically I think that the plummeting demand is the biggest problem for how to implement a bailout and for the economy as a whole, plus in all honesty so much of the workforce is screwed anyway with having inadequate wages and social safety net that it doesn't factor too much in my calculus. Maybe your mileage differs...course living in Ohio I would see immediate effects from a failure.

    As for the Senators, well I assume that they have a similar mentality as some of the congressmen that voted against the bailout because Pelosi said mean things.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    Part of the demand problem is the credit crunch. Heck, I need to replace a vehicle but need to wait until spring. But I really wonder how hard it will be to get financing.
  • mikkel
    I disagree both anecdotally and by looking at the data. Looking at sales figures, the majority of decrease in sales happened before the worst of the credit crunch and anecdotally, I know several people with only moderately good credit that got financing easily with OK terms in the last month. Plus a lot of dealerships are still offering very cheap financing to people with good credit.

    The biggest decline in credit availability both generally and in the auto industry specifically has been the subprime credit risks, but a) they made up a big part of the market so removing that has had a large impact and b) there is a retrenching by all people. I believe that the idea that a "credit crunch" is a large reason for poor economic numbers is almost completely a myth perpetuated by companies and analysts that are trying to convince the government/shareholders that things will rebound quickly if only it goes away. I will have a post that shows hard data that supports that view within the week.
  • DLS
    Rather than address the "transplants" (foreign automakers building autos in the USA) who are in places like Indiana and Ohio (and not south of I-70, either), or other misconceptions many people have, I'll look at this:

    "If we need to be capable of wartime production."

    This has been a concern of some, and I even wondered aloud earlier this year if one kind of redirection of redundant manufacturing capability might not be military production. (It's better than doing something cynical with the withering Rust Belt industrial zones such as to make them into the other states' landfill areas and external prison sites, for example.)

    To answer your specific concern: Some have noted that the more-modern industrial plants in the USA ("transplant" sites) could be put to this use since they are in US territory and would be subject to even more direct federal intervention than is usual, in wartime.

    Insofar as the related idea of retention of manufacturing capacity through redirection to military production: Aside from what anyone may think of it (good or bad), military expenditures and their growth are unsustainable, as the Defense Business Board has (been the latest party which has) stated this, bleakly. In addition, there are some projects in particular (which involve manufacturing capacity in military contractors already in use) that are begging for reductions or cancellations similar to what was done with ARH (the Advanced Reconaissance Helicopter) and the Comanche (helicopter) before that, for the Army. I always knew that switching to military was no panacea, but it has uglier prospects than ever (and leaves an ugly impression if you're exposed to some of the worse aspects).
  • DLS
    "Are the workers expected to somehow miraculously relocate in today's housing and credit market?"

    I have relocated ten times. Lifetime employment with one employer is obsolete, especially in one (1) location. I know of auto workers who relocated from Detroit to the Southeast or to Midwestern auto plants, as well as relocating within their own company as a condition of remaining employed. Nobody has a "right" [sic] to a job (forever) where one wants to stay.

    * * *

    "How about a much smaller bailout design to refocus efforts on more eco freindly cars and gaurentee warranties to consumers?"

    Warranty support until the aftermarket industry picks up the slack, probably okay. (Many of us buy used and often aren't concerned about warranties.) No to any kind of government-interventionist design decisions. That is the perogative of management, even Detroit's. Political objectives (and feel-good games) have no place in business. Moreover, Detroit has a gun to its head, loaded, cocked, with pressure on the trigger. Now is hardly the time to impose all kinds of political constraints and problems on any business in such a condition!

    "there is a retrenching by all people. I believe that the idea that a 'credit crunch' 'is a large reason for poor economic numbers is almost completely a myth "

    Yes, retrenching, which may have only begun and may be much more broad and deep soon.

    Much of this "credit crunch" stuff bothers me, too. I think of too many people living on credit, primarily, even with all their routine personal expenses. (Here in Detroit, I still see widespread use of the credit card by people for ordinary expenses, and of course no letup to driving large vehicles and driving aggressively and continuing to use excess fuel than would be the case if people were concerned about reducing their expenditures. Detroit denial???)
  • Jim_Satterfield

    "Are the workers expected to somehow miraculously relocate in today's housing and credit market?"

    I have relocated ten times. Lifetime employment with one employer is obsolete, especially in one (1) location. I know of auto workers who relocated from Detroit to the Southeast or to Midwestern auto plants, as well as relocating within their own company as a condition of remaining employed. Nobody has a "right" [sic] to a job (forever) where one wants to stay.


    My rejoinder to your response is simply to point out that that was then, this is now. Please note where I added emphasis to my previous statement.
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