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What To Do About Joe Lieberman?

Well, it now seems that both Obama and Durbin want Lieberman to remain as chair of the Homeland Security Committee, at least according to Newsweek’s Howard Fineman.

It has been reported that Obama wants Lieberman to remain in the Democratic caucus, but it hasn’t been clear whether or not he wants him to keep his chairmanship. It has also been reported that Durbin wanted him to be stripped of his chairmanship.

Meanwhile, the Politico is reporting that some Democratic senators — including Dodd, Salazar, Carper, and Nelson — “have launched a behind-the-scenes effort to save… Lieberman’s chairmanship.”

As I have written before, I trust Obama’s judgment and am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. And I have a great deal of respect for Durbin and Dodd.

The thing it, while Obama and Lieberman’s backers may not hold grudges, many of us do. And rightly so. He’s proven time and again over the past several years that he isn’t much of a Democrat, if one at all. And after all he did to attack Obama and the Democrats during the recent campaign, why should he be forgiven and allowed to remain as if nothing happened?

And I’m not so sure it’s such a great idea to let him keep such an important chairmanship. For more on this, see Jane Hamsher: “Allowing Lieberman to retain control of a committee where he has done nothing but suppress meaningful oversight is going to be an awfully bitter pill to swallow when we’re told that the price of ‘change’ we all thought we were voting for is going to be too high.”

The Senate Democrats are “making a mistake they’re likely to regret,” argues Steve Benen, and I tend to agree.

I must stress, again, that I have been sympathetic to Lieberman in the past and have argued that the Democratic Party should be inclusive enough even for Lieberman to have a place in it. But that was then, this is post-election 2008. The party should still be inclusive, and perhaps Lieberman should be allowed to remain in caucus, at least for the time being, and perhaps even forgiven, with a massive generosity of spirit, but that is all.

A chairmanship, particularly such a key one? Absolutely not. Not even if, as Even Bayh has suggested, he apologizes profusely.

  • jchem
    If you really trust Obama's judgement, and he wants to keep Lieberman the chair, why do you spend the last half of your post arguing that Lieberman be booted? Apparently, you and Obama don't agree on this one.

    I'm a bit confused though. You first cite Newsweek saying that both Obama and Durbin want Leiberman to remain chair (1st paragraph), but then you and FDL cite sources saying the opposite (2nd paragraph).

    Honestly, I'm not sure what role the Dems have in mind for Leiberman. But I do have a sneaking suspicion that it depends largely on what happens in the senate races in MN, AK, and GA.
  • AustinRoth
    "while Obama and Lieberman’s backers may not hold grudges, many of us do"

    Of course, your opinion means nothing, does it?
  • Silhouette
    "The thing it, while Obama and Lieberman’s backers may not hold grudges, many of us do. And rightly so. He’s proven time and again over the past several years that he isn’t much of a Democrat, if one at all. And after all he did to attack Obama and the Democrats during the recent campaign, why should he be forgiven and allowed to remain as if nothing happened?"
    **********

    Yeah....cuz then some of us voting democrats might get suspicious that our DNC doesn't represent the Will of its constituency, and instead the will of, oh, I dunno...$pecial interest lobbying? Bribes?

    What was it that lured Lieberman over to the party of BigOil agian?? Anyone?

    I say there may be a broad enough tent to include Lieberman back to the party he professed to despise, but let's not make him one of the tent poles. They tend to collapse when corrosion has infested their core.
  • This FDL post should convince every Democrat or liberal that Lieberman has to go: http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/the-case-agai...
  • kritt11
    Hang on to Lieberman until the final Senate count is known. If the Dems get a couple of more seats (3 are in question) they won't need him and should let him caucus with the GOP.
  • AustinRoth
    Kim - It is the opposite of what you state. If they get all the contested seats, then Lieberman represents the 60th (filibuster-proof) seat. If not, then there is no difference between 59 and 58 seats.
  • kritt11
    But, if they get up to 58 they should be able to get moderates like
    Susan Collins or Olympia Snowe to go along- unless the legislation is
    really outrageous.
  • AustinRoth
    Kim - so, you pin your hopes on trying to get some GOP Senators to do what you condemn Lieberman for doing?
  • kritt11
    I don't condemn Lieberman for voting with Republicans- B
  • kritt11
    Austin- I don't condemn Lieberman for the way he votes---its the way he does it--- kissing Bush's tush and campaigning for the GOP candidate . He was McCain's right hand man through the whole election. He said many harsh things about Obama, and has often chastised members of his party for voting against the war. He ran in 2006 promising to investigate Bush's actions during Katrina, and then changed his mind when he became chairman of Homeland Security.

    He seems really untrustworthy.

    That's hardly the same thing as Olympia Snowe voting for S-Chip! I can't imagine a Republican getting away with what Lieberman is doing when the GOP ran the Senate or the House!
  • Lieberman said a lot of pretty repugnant things, and I can understand why some people want him out of there. But the phrase "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer" keeps on coming to mind. I'm inclined to trust Obama's judgment on this one.
  • EEllis
    Who turned on who first? Lieberman votes Dem on everything but the war. Because he didn't tow the line on the war a vocal minority tried to get him out. Is it a real shock that he may have felt less than loyal? Should he feel loyal? Why? Basically it's do what we say or we'll strip you of everything regardless off seniority, service, ect. Kiss the ring or pay the piper.
  • Rudi
    LOL AR - Other than the ME issues, Lieberman is very liberal on domestic issues. If he went over to the Republican party, how will Hannity and Ted Nuggent(Human Events) react to his union loving big spending ways?
  • kritt11
    EEllis-

    The war was a huge mistake in the minds of many Americans--- and was entered into under false pretenses. It continues to cost us $10 billion a month- to be paid for by our children and grandchildren. The policy argument was not just about Iraq but about Iran, which would have been even more costly.

    I don't blame Democrats for trying to elect a candidate who agreed with them on this issue. Many Democrats like Bill Clinton and Chris Dodd stood by him.
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