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	<title>Comments on: Obama Sends Message: Lieberman Should Caucus With Democrats</title>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is that Joe Lieberman did not think Obama could possibly win and so hitched his cart to McCain&#039;s horse, hoping for a nice payoff.  That&#039;s politics.  Usual retaliatory politics would be to kick Joe the Turncoat (sorry, I couldn&#039;t resist that) out of the Dem caucus.  But Obama does not believe in retaliatory politics and understands in a very adult way that politics is politics and once campaigns are over then former opponents need to work together to get stuff done.  Obama understands the incredibly bad shape the economy is in, and all the other issues which he must overcome.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IMO Obama has created a long-term strategy for success.  Instead of savoring the short-term satisfaction of his newfound power (like a kid eating every piece of candy in his Halloween bag who will only become sick later) Obama has decided to savor one or two pieces of candy and put the rest away, to savor later.  Obama understands that he has many enemies out there (and right radio doesn&#039;t help the country at all) and knows he needs as many friends as possible, even if it means forgoing instant gratification (banishing Lieberman) at this moment.  Obama will need Joe Lieberman in the future.  If Lieberman were to be ostracized now then Lieberman would not be of much use to Obama and the Dems in the future.  It&#039;s a more sophisticated view of politics than the, &quot;Let&#039;s reward our friends and hurt those he didn&#039;t help us.&quot;  We&#039;ve all seen where that kind of politics lead.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It will be interesting to see if the rest of the Senate Dems decide to keep Lieberman in the caucus, and if they do, what (if any) punishment (such as stripping him of his DHS chair) is meted out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is that Joe Lieberman did not think Obama could possibly win and so hitched his cart to McCain&#39;s horse, hoping for a nice payoff.  That&#39;s politics.  Usual retaliatory politics would be to kick Joe the Turncoat (sorry, I couldn&#39;t resist that) out of the Dem caucus.  But Obama does not believe in retaliatory politics and understands in a very adult way that politics is politics and once campaigns are over then former opponents need to work together to get stuff done.  Obama understands the incredibly bad shape the economy is in, and all the other issues which he must overcome.  </p>
<p>IMO Obama has created a long-term strategy for success.  Instead of savoring the short-term satisfaction of his newfound power (like a kid eating every piece of candy in his Halloween bag who will only become sick later) Obama has decided to savor one or two pieces of candy and put the rest away, to savor later.  Obama understands that he has many enemies out there (and right radio doesn&#39;t help the country at all) and knows he needs as many friends as possible, even if it means forgoing instant gratification (banishing Lieberman) at this moment.  Obama will need Joe Lieberman in the future.  If Lieberman were to be ostracized now then Lieberman would not be of much use to Obama and the Dems in the future.  It&#39;s a more sophisticated view of politics than the, &#8220;Let&#39;s reward our friends and hurt those he didn&#39;t help us.&#8221;  We&#39;ve all seen where that kind of politics lead.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see if the rest of the Senate Dems decide to keep Lieberman in the caucus, and if they do, what (if any) punishment (such as stripping him of his DHS chair) is meted out.</p>
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		<title>By: Lit3Bolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lit3Bolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DLS,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What good would the U.S. Senate Mossad agent (CODENAME: LIEBERMAN) do in Israel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DLS,</p>
<p>What good would the U.S. Senate Mossad agent (CODENAME: LIEBERMAN) do in Israel?</p>
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		<title>By: RememberNovember</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/24253/obama-sends-message-lieberman-should-caucus-with-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-163634</link>
		<dc:creator>RememberNovember</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Keep your friends close, your enemies closer&quot;-Mafia proverb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Keep your friends close, your enemies closer&#8221;-Mafia proverb</p>
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		<title>By: lurxst</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurxst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In most issues, aside from national security related votes, Lieberman historically votes with the democrats.  He should receive a good shaming for supporting his BFF McCain, likely a stripping of his committee chairmanship, especially since its the Homeland Security Committee, the one area where he usually breaks with dems.  He has no future without a little democratic party support, and he knows it. He will take whatever humble pie is thrown his way and eat it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In most issues, aside from national security related votes, Lieberman historically votes with the democrats.  He should receive a good shaming for supporting his BFF McCain, likely a stripping of his committee chairmanship, especially since its the Homeland Security Committee, the one area where he usually breaks with dems.  He has no future without a little democratic party support, and he knows it. He will take whatever humble pie is thrown his way and eat it.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised nobody has yet said that he should be the next US ambassador to Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m surprised nobody has yet said that he should be the next US ambassador to Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lieberman is about as GOP as nothing.  He went to the other side on the promise of $$.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So it can be said his soul is for sale.  The old saying &quot;keep your friends close, but your enemies even closer&quot; may be what Obama is thinking when he considers keeping Lieberman around?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, compromising one&#039;s moral fiber for cash seems to be a common malady around DC.  I&#039;d like to see lobbying made illegal.  The only pressure brought to bear on Congresspeople should be from the throngs of their constituents and never any special business interest.  In case it escaped anyone&#039;s attention, we are in the mess we are in today because of special-interest lobbying.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The big offenders?  BigOil, BigInsurance, and BigPharmaceuticals.  They kept us from developing alternative energy and affordable workers and almost brought our country to an end, effectively..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman is about as GOP as nothing.  He went to the other side on the promise of $$.</p>
<p>So it can be said his soul is for sale.  The old saying &#8220;keep your friends close, but your enemies even closer&#8221; may be what Obama is thinking when he considers keeping Lieberman around?</p>
<p>Of course, compromising one&#39;s moral fiber for cash seems to be a common malady around DC.  I&#39;d like to see lobbying made illegal.  The only pressure brought to bear on Congresspeople should be from the throngs of their constituents and never any special business interest.  In case it escaped anyone&#39;s attention, we are in the mess we are in today because of special-interest lobbying.</p>
<p>The big offenders?  BigOil, BigInsurance, and BigPharmaceuticals.  They kept us from developing alternative energy and affordable workers and almost brought our country to an end, effectively..</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry Reid was on CNN yesterday discussing Lieberman. About 2:50 into &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oUdat88dh8&quot;&gt;this clip&lt;/a&gt; John King asked Reid if Lieberman owed Obama an apology and whether &quot;they&quot; (meaning Obama and Lieberman) should make peace. Reid responded, &quot;Maybe they already have.&quot; If you watch the clip note not only what he said but the way he said it. I got the strong impression that some kind of deal was struck. So this news today doesn&#039;t surprise me at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Reid was on CNN yesterday discussing Lieberman. About 2:50 into <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oUdat88dh8">this clip</a> John King asked Reid if Lieberman owed Obama an apology and whether &#8220;they&#8221; (meaning Obama and Lieberman) should make peace. Reid responded, &#8220;Maybe they already have.&#8221; If you watch the clip note not only what he said but the way he said it. I got the strong impression that some kind of deal was struck. So this news today doesn&#39;t surprise me at all.</p>
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