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Barack Obama Gets No Honeymoon From Conservative Talk Radio

If you thought that President-elect Barack Obama would get maybe an hour’s worth of honeymoon from many conservative talk radio hosts — just an hour free of the kind of attack and demonize radio show that gets big ratings because it riles up audiences and wants them to tune in again — then I have a company named Microsoft that I can sell you for $1.98…

Listening to a variety of conservative national and local talk shows here in Southern California yesterday was a revelation: many of these hosts seemed more determined than ever to recycle campaign-related charges against Obama, repeat his middle name repeatedly as if it signaled a danger to the Republic and push hot buttons that in effect urged listeners not to trust or work with those who don’t totally agree with the talk show radio host (Democrats, independents, liberals and moderates).

One key point they make: Obama didn’t win by a landslide, which is true. The other key that many of them made is that the votes proved Obama has no mandate to press for any programs he advocates.

But that, like many of their other charges, doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Note these background paragraphs in a story from U.K.’s Telegraph on Obama work on assembling a cabinet:

An estimated 130 million voters cast their ballots, a turnout of about 62 per cent and the highest in more than 40 years. The first black president-elect won with 63.25 million votes, more than the total of any other presidential candidate in history.

He also netted a higher percentage of the overall vote than any Democrat since Lyndon Johnson in 1964.

With the results finalised in 48 states and the District of Columbia, Mr Obama had recorded a near landslide in the electoral college with 349 electoral votes compared to Mr McCain’s 163 for Republican John McCain.

He won by a six-point margin in the national popular vote. Missouri and North Carolina were still too close to call.

So these hosts who insisted in 2004 (and 2000) that George W. Bush had a mandate to lead say Obama doesn’t now, even though he got a higher percentage of votes than Bush. But it’s clear if you monitor these programs that many are not about facts but about fanning anger towards one party and whip up listeners so they’ll tune in again and again.

Here’s a list of some of the arguments being made yesterday. Many these were made within minutes of shows being aired. So Obama, who asked his opponents to work with him in his victory speech, is already being demonized before he has even been sworn in. Some key points and arguments in the show:

*The Obama administration will be a Marxist-Socialist regime.

*He only won by 6 percentage points in the vote which isn’t a big deal and is not a mandate.

*One host begins his show now with audio of a speech by Reverend Wright.

*There is no reason to cooperate with the Democrats who didn’t cooperate with the Republicans. Cooperation has only brought the Republicans electoral defeat and the Democrats and Obama should be fought every step of the way.

*It’s suspicious that Obama went to Hawaii to see his dying grandmother at the height of demands that he produce his birth certificate — and she died later.

*John McCain is nothing but a country club Republican who was never a real conservative and virtually threw the election to Obama.

*John McCain’s concession speech to Obama pledging to work with the new President shows McCain is not a real conservative and was a sham all along.

*The names now being floated in the news media as part of the Obama administration are all Clinton retreads or extremely partisan and far left Democratic liberal hacks and show that Obama is no centrist or moderate but a Socialist.

*Continued talk about Bill Ayers and Wright and that these issues need to be pressed and not forgotten.

You could argue these are just broadcasts, so who cares? But conservative talkers command large audiences. Essentially, the U.S. has some people with three-hour blocs of time who, even before a new President is sworn in, are urging their listeners: a) not to give him the benefit of the doubt b) not to try and put aside the past campaign and differences and give bipartisan cooperation a chance, c) demand the GOP continue to confront and battle, every inch of the way, the new President.

The issue isn’t the hosts having the right to say what they want. They do. And if you believe, ask me about that little company I can sell you for $1.98…

The issue is that talk radio remains entertainment for some, but is a major news source and a place to get what are basically political prompts about what partisans should do and say. And Obama is not getting a second’s worth of honeymoon from these hosts, who were badmouthing Obama within hours of his victory.

On his KFI Show yesterday, lawyer Bill Handel, who is an independent, was asked whether he thought Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and other conservative talk show hosts would ease off Obama during the transition. Handel flatly said no…and explained that there are people who genuinely believe that Democrats, independents and other voters who voted for and think like Obama and working with evil people (the Obama administration) to destroy the country and hand it over to its enemies.

There’s also the element of ratings. During an Obama administration these shows will get HUGE ratings since they can now go after a Democratic administration. Now it’ll be the progressive talkers who will likely fall into the trap of playing defense for their party in power — most likely shrinking their already modest audiences even more.

The real danger of conservative talk radio: during the campaign it was clear that at several points McCain took the advice of conservative talkers. The advice proved to be awful (such as Rush Limbaugh’s lobbying for Sarah Palin as Veep).

The dangers is that the powers that be in the downsized GOP will again follow the advice of conservative talkers — who want to narrow the GOP tent and paint those outside the tent as being dangerous and ill-intentioned.

Hopefully the GOP bigwigs with their hands on the now-smaller levers of GOP power will remember what happened when John McCain and his handlers thought these talkers had some terrific ideas about campaign strategy.

  • writinghannah
    My humble musical letter to President Obama:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4bZw9FmXZ4

    Love,
    Hannah Friedman
  • pacatrue
    I love the charming suggestion that Obama knocked off his own grandmother. Classy.
  • greenschemes
    Well lets see.

    The liberal congress would love to get rid of guns and religion. They want to legislate speech as it relates to those they dont agree with. They want to make votes in unions a non private manner so that those voting can be intimidated into doing the right thing.

    I dont think socialism really is the appropriate word. Should the GOP fight them every step of the way. They damn well better if this is the kind of laws they want to pass. America rejected the War. The Economy and the GOP because of 8 years of not so swell America. They really did not vote for all these other things. They voted for change. Im pretty sure they are not voting to intimidate union members, take away first amendment rights of talk show hosts...if thats the case then I want leno and letterman gone too and Bill Maher, they talk bad about the president. Oh and we should close down MSNBC and FOX and CNN because they get on their and trash talk politicians.

    Socialism? No I dont think thats where the Democrats want to take us. I think its more like a police state with them calling the shots. Do I think this is where they want to take us? No and my greatest relief is maybe now the world will stop calling America a racist nation with his huge win. Lets just hope much of this crap was just rhetoric and not 20 years of sitting in the pews listening to J. Wright shape his mind and opinions.
  • zork
    God Bless Rush, Sean and all conservative talk show hosts for keeping 56 million+ of us who voted for M-P going in the right direction. You have the MSM openly supporting Obama and now you complain about a few talk show hosts who support different political ideas. Take away free speech? Is that what you moderate Dems want?
    http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76890 (THE YEAR THE MEDIA DIED: How 2008 presidential election demolished credibility of 'mainstream' press)
    God Bless America!
  • Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and all the other conservative talk shows hosts can talk all they want. Because it is there right and I would stand against anyone's policy to stop that.

    I would really like to see some serious cooperation between Democrats and Republicans / Liberals and Conservatives at this time. But that's probably going to be extremely difficult. Firing rhetorical cruise missiles at each other is much more fun.
  • JSpencer
    Some people are capable of transcending thier wornout preconceptions and dogma. Others seem destined to remain trapped by their own bigotry, hate and lies. If they want to stew in their own bitterness and remain shackled to the past by their own inability to imagine a better America, then that is their choice. The rest of us will be working to take this country into the future and help it realize it's potential, the very potential great Americans throughout history have worked for over the past two hundred plus years. As a guy named James Brown once said : I FEEL GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • kritt11
    zork- No one minds if talk radio hosts broadcast political ideas that are based in reality-- but these are largely false and unfair.

    The campaign is over and Obama/Biden prevailed. Even McCain the maverick pledged to work in a bipartisan way with the new administration. Obama's whole message is that we need to unify as a country-- not pick out our differences because we listened to some of Rush's propaganda. The guy has an agenda which is to trash any liberal figure or cause that comes into prominence and support any conservative-- even an ignoramus like Palin.
  • AlanTheDBA
    Jay Severin here in Boston responded to a man who called his rants against Obama "racist" by responding .."you are a loathsome, masturbating, troll of a loser" and then went on to say "Barack Obama is a racist, a Marxist, and an anti-Semite and I will NEVER accept him nor acknowledge him as my or anyone's President and I will do everything I can to remove him from power or overthrow him - legally."
    This is not just "talk radio". This is venomous. This is caustic. This is vitriol of the worst kind. THIS is why we have such deep divides in this country, because people are being goaded and invited to respond with their own hate-filled rants. It is ugly and useless.
  • kritt11
    Alan---Absolutely. Do listeners even get that the radio hosts' agenda is total destruction of any liberal who comes into power in Washington? Is it free speech or dangerous propaganda? It has the rancid whiff of the Father Coughlin rants in the '30's against the Jews.

    This is information and entertainment?
  • Rudi
    When KO goes over the top it's polemic or worse. Anything that Randi Rhodes says is usually a rant. Wingnuts whine about the attack dogs of the Netroots, well the Hannity's Limpbaugh's and such were doing this before AA even hit the air. Rhodes, Levin and Hannity are idiots.
  • Lit3Bolt
    I think both conservatives and liberals should feel pride about Obama's election. America is probably the only country, aside from India, that has voted for a minority into a leadership position. (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

    In closing, I cheer the return of the black helicopters circling overhead. Now that the pendulum has swung, every military officer, police officer, and federal agent has suddenly and completely switched their loyalty 100% to The Worker's People's Glorious Caliphate Leader Hussein Obama, and because they draw government paychecks, have eagerly become goose-stepping advocates of enforcing order in Hussein's America.
  • My earlier comment protecting free speech stands but I'm very concerned about the hyperbole in language that one uses to slam their political and ideological opponent. It does create some nasty rifts in our country many times. That being said, I do fine Lit3Bolt's previous comment VERY funny. "The Worker's People's Glorious Caliphate Leader Hussein Obama"?? LOL!

    We black folks are truly equal. One of us just got called a Glorious Caliphate Leader! :-p
  • AustinRoth
    Vicious attacks are part and parcel of politics. Anyone here remember what was being said and written about Bush immediately after his elections? Equally bad.

    And Kim, you are going off the rails, and doing exactly what you are claiming to dislike. "even an ignoramus like Palin." "Is it free speech or dangerous propaganda?" Especially your last statement is worrisome. It is that exact attitude, the 'if I don't like what you say and how you say it, it may not be free speech' that has become the modus opperandi of the Left to try and suppress views they don't like.

    I would rather have Rush and his ilk on the Right and Rhodes and her ilk on the Left spewing at each other until their faces turn blue than to have the government try to limit their speech. Which, of course, would be un-Constitutional anyway.
  • mlhradio
    I do not think the whole concept of whether or not Obama has a mandate is relevant. Because - that's just not the way Obama rolls.

    Bush operated his government from a 50-plus-one perspective. In his mind, he *needed* a mandate to govern. Damn the opposition, they're irrelevant, as long as Bush had a majority therefore a mandate, he push through his agenda.

    Obama, on the other hand, operates from a more inclusive perspective. While the majority of his views and ideas appeal to the Democratic side of the aisle, the way he works he also considers all sides on the issues. His view of the government is not to exclude the opposition, but to include them (does not mean he'll agree with them, but they will not be shut completely out of the government). From Obama's point of view, he does not need a mandate, because his governing style precludes the concept.

    As for the rest of the right-hate-radio -- well, what did you expect? Although this has less to do with any specific political position, and instead is more representative of the increasingly ossified echo chambers that have been borne out of the last couple decades of partisan-only politics. I suspect that such media structures (whether on the left or right) ultimately become less and less relevant as they continue to isolate themselves from reality, becoming more and more cliquish over time. My hope is that now that some people are calling this the end of the Republican Era of politics (or at the very least, the end of the Rovian era), this hyper-partisanship in the media will begin to subside. But the pessimist in me really doubts that.
  • acspark
    Privately, Rush, Hannity and the like are as giddy as school girls. Their crowd are going to listen to their shows, their ratings will go up, and they will get paid more money.
  • Yeah your right AustinRoth. The crap thrown at Bush during is two terms was insane. There are almost 100 "Impeach Bush" groups on Facebook.
  • pacatrue
    Impeach Bush is a possible political position, because there's a lot of evidence the man broke the law.

    "you are a loathsome, masturbating, troll of a loser" is... not so much. Now, if there are a bunch of groups on Facebook labeled "All Conservatives are Hitler-wannabe, fascist, pansy, a-hole, mother-raping, scumbags," then that's equivalent. And there probably are.
  • GayMedia
    I am absolutely baffled as to what shows you were listening to! The three (major) shows I listened to (two local one national) had nothing but banal "he's got his work cut out for him"; "I couldn't stand that Palin!"; and "We have acheived a historical moment!" B.S. comments all morning. I could have vomited. There wasn't an ounce of fear and loathing. A lot of "nobody better say "he's not my president! That's just WRONG!" kind of crap. You must have been listening to the FM dial or something. All I heard here in So Cal was happy yappy talk about B.O. and how wonderful he is. Everybody is in for a BIG disappointment with this guy. I will be the first to admit it if he manages to do anything right. But with the idiot Los Angelenos voting themselves further into poverty, waste, and debt I see no way the feds could help us, unless of course they decide to enforce our border.
  • The real danger of conservative talk radio: during the campaign it was clear that at several points McCain took the advice of conservative talkers.

    I can't tell if Hannity led McCain or vice versa but Hannity clearly was in lockstep
    with the more ridiculous and the nastier McCain comments.
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