Comments on: AP: Obama Now Has Enough Electoral College Votes To Defeat McCain http://themoderatevoice.com/23977/ap-obama-now-has-enough-electoral-college-votes-to-defeat-mccain/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:56:13 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: CStanley http://themoderatevoice.com/23977/ap-obama-now-has-enough-electoral-college-votes-to-defeat-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-162194 CStanley Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:11:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/23977/ap-obama-now-has-enough-electoral-college-votes-to-defeat-mccain/#comment-162194 Gee, I guess we don't actually need to hold elections anymore. Let's just take the results of phone calls, and assume that the people who are willing to respond to the pollsters calls are representative of all voters (it couldn't possibly be that Obama supporters are more excited and young and wanting to participate, while McCain supporters are more likely to blow off the calls.)<br><br>Thanks, AP, we can all stay home now and let the magic of polling take place from the comforts of our homes and determine the will of the people! Gee, I guess we don't actually need to hold elections anymore. Let's just take the results of phone calls, and assume that the people who are willing to respond to the pollsters calls are representative of all voters (it couldn't possibly be that Obama supporters are more excited and young and wanting to participate, while McCain supporters are more likely to blow off the calls.)

Thanks, AP, we can all stay home now and let the magic of polling take place from the comforts of our homes and determine the will of the people!

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/23977/ap-obama-now-has-enough-electoral-college-votes-to-defeat-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-162170 DLS Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:37:26 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/23977/ap-obama-now-has-enough-electoral-college-votes-to-defeat-mccain/#comment-162170 I'll add, A, that social conservatism belongs nowhere near Washington, but is prefereable to the degenerate alternative on the other side that has deformed and degenerated Washington since especially the 1960s, to where even established Washington liberals such as elitist Patrick Moynihan (scumbag 10,000% tax on ammunition) have been upset. (Didn't they know what they had been creating? Dolts.) I'll add, A, that social conservatism belongs nowhere near Washington, but is prefereable to the degenerate alternative on the other side that has deformed and degenerated Washington since especially the 1960s, to where even established Washington liberals such as elitist Patrick Moynihan (scumbag 10,000% tax on ammunition) have been upset. (Didn't they know what they had been creating? Dolts.)

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/23977/ap-obama-now-has-enough-electoral-college-votes-to-defeat-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-162169 DLS Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:34:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/23977/ap-obama-now-has-enough-electoral-college-votes-to-defeat-mccain/#comment-162169 Thanks, A. You are reporting what many people also would say. Left unsaid by you is that Reagan never defined perfection but he was certainly better than what we see how. Even liberals, under certain circumstances begrudgingly, admit it. (I liked it when Garrison Keillor [spelling questionable] said as such during his taxpayer-misappropriation show, at which point scumbag young people whooped as he [Keillor] said Reagan had died. Sadly, the Dems are alive and well -- there's a big bell curve with a mighty-large low half to it in this country.) Thanks, A. You are reporting what many people also would say. Left unsaid by you is that Reagan never defined perfection but he was certainly better than what we see how. Even liberals, under certain circumstances begrudgingly, admit it. (I liked it when Garrison Keillor [spelling questionable] said as such during his taxpayer-misappropriation show, at which point scumbag young people whooped as he [Keillor] said Reagan had died. Sadly, the Dems are alive and well — there's a big bell curve with a mighty-large low half to it in this country.)

]]> By: armistead14 http://themoderatevoice.com/23977/ap-obama-now-has-enough-electoral-college-votes-to-defeat-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-162148 armistead14 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:06:24 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/23977/ap-obama-now-has-enough-electoral-college-votes-to-defeat-mccain/#comment-162148 There are so many factors about this rate that will change politics forever.<br>As usual, people don't look at the voting records of those running. Americans, moreso young people fall for speeches. <br><br>I am in a fix. I admire McCain, but lead by Bush the GOP has been a party of big spending, not as bad as the Dems, but close. Obama says McCain voted for the Bush budget, which he did. He seems to forget the budget the Dems put forth that he voted for was billions more.<br><br>Obama's plan will lead to a depression. The question remains will he move to the center. The Dems will have a free hand with the most radical leadership. If Obama sticks to his record, he will beat Bush as the worse President in history.<br><br>How you can call giving 40% of Americans that pay no taxes a tax credit is a lie. It's simple welfare and he should say so.<br><br>Americans are now of the entitlement mindset. We spend without thought.<br>We save nothing. We are a broke nation. American claims to hate government because it fails terribly at all it does, but then wants to let government take care of everything. The world is running from failed socialism, why we run to it. It will not work. SS and medicare alone are over 70 trillion in debt. Whoever gets in will print more fake money, driving the dollar lower. The house of cards is coming down. <br><br>It doesn't matter who wins this one. 30 years of failed policy are coming home to roost. With Obama is will come faster, but it's still coming. Americans will look to a government that has no money to solve things. They will hear more lies and believe them. SS, nor medicare will be there.<br>It's impossible. Energy, forget it, with Obama in, no drilling and it would take 30 years to get us off oil. He will build no nuclear plants, ect. <br><br>They say you can know a person by the friends they keep. Look at Obama's friends all his life. The most radical of the radical. But Americans<br>fall for oratory. I always wondered how all of Germany followed Hitler...It was because of oratory. Like sheep lead to the slaughter, they followed his great speeches.<br><br>Still, McCain has only shown how stupid he is. He may be a maverick, but not a smart one. If picking Palin shows his skills, God help us.<br><br>Obama will either blow this one out or we will wake up surprised. I wonder how many that lean towards Obama will actually pull the lever for him. <br><br>The GOP had better reinvent itself towards Reagan. Social conservatism works. Under Obama things will be so bad, the GOP should take over again. I just hope they get it right the next time, because this time they deserve to lose. There are so many factors about this rate that will change politics forever.
As usual, people don't look at the voting records of those running. Americans, moreso young people fall for speeches.

I am in a fix. I admire McCain, but lead by Bush the GOP has been a party of big spending, not as bad as the Dems, but close. Obama says McCain voted for the Bush budget, which he did. He seems to forget the budget the Dems put forth that he voted for was billions more.

Obama's plan will lead to a depression. The question remains will he move to the center. The Dems will have a free hand with the most radical leadership. If Obama sticks to his record, he will beat Bush as the worse President in history.

How you can call giving 40% of Americans that pay no taxes a tax credit is a lie. It's simple welfare and he should say so.

Americans are now of the entitlement mindset. We spend without thought.
We save nothing. We are a broke nation. American claims to hate government because it fails terribly at all it does, but then wants to let government take care of everything. The world is running from failed socialism, why we run to it. It will not work. SS and medicare alone are over 70 trillion in debt. Whoever gets in will print more fake money, driving the dollar lower. The house of cards is coming down.

It doesn't matter who wins this one. 30 years of failed policy are coming home to roost. With Obama is will come faster, but it's still coming. Americans will look to a government that has no money to solve things. They will hear more lies and believe them. SS, nor medicare will be there.
It's impossible. Energy, forget it, with Obama in, no drilling and it would take 30 years to get us off oil. He will build no nuclear plants, ect.

They say you can know a person by the friends they keep. Look at Obama's friends all his life. The most radical of the radical. But Americans
fall for oratory. I always wondered how all of Germany followed Hitler…It was because of oratory. Like sheep lead to the slaughter, they followed his great speeches.

Still, McCain has only shown how stupid he is. He may be a maverick, but not a smart one. If picking Palin shows his skills, God help us.

Obama will either blow this one out or we will wake up surprised. I wonder how many that lean towards Obama will actually pull the lever for him.

The GOP had better reinvent itself towards Reagan. Social conservatism works. Under Obama things will be so bad, the GOP should take over again. I just hope they get it right the next time, because this time they deserve to lose.

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