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		<title>By: DWSUWF</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23575/moving-into-amiguity/comment-page-1/#comment-159641</link>
		<dc:creator>DWSUWF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;I will vote for Republicans down-ballot because I want to have some divided government....&quot;&lt;/em&gt; - DS&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Right diagnosis but wrong prescription, Dennis. We cannot get to divided government this year by voting GOP down ballot. The Dems are going to expand their majorities and possibly have a filibuster proof super majority in the Senate. The only way to re-elect Divided Government in 2008, is elect John McCain for President. It is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56hG_aGxDdc&quot;&gt;right thing to do&lt;/a&gt;. Obama can take another shot in 2012 with a Republican Senate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;I will vote for Republicans down-ballot because I want to have some divided government&#8230;.&#8221;</em> &#8211; DS</p></blockquote>
<p>Right diagnosis but wrong prescription, Dennis. We cannot get to divided government this year by voting GOP down ballot. The Dems are going to expand their majorities and possibly have a filibuster proof super majority in the Senate. The only way to re-elect Divided Government in 2008, is elect John McCain for President. It is the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56hG_aGxDdc">right thing to do</a>. Obama can take another shot in 2012 with a Republican Senate.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim_H</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23575/moving-into-amiguity/comment-page-1/#comment-159574</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim_H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have trouble picking candidates because I&#039;m fairly liberal on social issues, but conservative on fiscal issues.  I want the budget balanced.  The last candidate who took it seriously was Mondale, and you know what happened to him.  (Clinton balanced the budget at the easiest possible time to do it, helped by Republican-led gridlock.  Sometimes a government that does nothing can be helpful.)&lt;br&gt;   Out of about 20 primary candidates, none really cared about balancing the budget.  Dems are still tax-and-spend, Repubs are borrow-and-spend.&lt;br&gt;   I liked McCain in 2000.  I looked at his issue stands when he started this campaign and found he wasn&#039;t the same guy.  I&#039;m not sure he has any real core principles other than say what you need to this time around to get elected.  His whole political history is utterly plastic.  His choice of Palin was so cynical it&#039;s insulting.  Palin has shown not only that she&#039;s not ready, but that she is fundamentally dishonest.&lt;br&gt;   i&#039;m not sure we can afford Obama&#039;s promises, but I&#039;m voting for him.  He may be the most intelligent candidate we&#039;ve had in recent memory.  That should make up for inexperience.  We could do much worse than having a constitutional expert as president. (A vastly underused theme this year.)  Not a perfect choice for me, but not bad.  I figure we only have to worry about total Democratic domination for 2 years- they&#039;ll lose seats in the midterm elections. Dems may not even get 60 Senate seats this year-less than 50% chance right now.  If they get around 58 seats, they still need a couple Republicans for cloture.  Arlen Specter will be the most influential Repub in Washington.  I like him- he&#039;s a rare actual moderate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have trouble picking candidates because I&#39;m fairly liberal on social issues, but conservative on fiscal issues.  I want the budget balanced.  The last candidate who took it seriously was Mondale, and you know what happened to him.  (Clinton balanced the budget at the easiest possible time to do it, helped by Republican-led gridlock.  Sometimes a government that does nothing can be helpful.)<br />   Out of about 20 primary candidates, none really cared about balancing the budget.  Dems are still tax-and-spend, Repubs are borrow-and-spend.<br />   I liked McCain in 2000.  I looked at his issue stands when he started this campaign and found he wasn&#39;t the same guy.  I&#39;m not sure he has any real core principles other than say what you need to this time around to get elected.  His whole political history is utterly plastic.  His choice of Palin was so cynical it&#39;s insulting.  Palin has shown not only that she&#39;s not ready, but that she is fundamentally dishonest.<br />   i&#39;m not sure we can afford Obama&#39;s promises, but I&#39;m voting for him.  He may be the most intelligent candidate we&#39;ve had in recent memory.  That should make up for inexperience.  We could do much worse than having a constitutional expert as president. (A vastly underused theme this year.)  Not a perfect choice for me, but not bad.  I figure we only have to worry about total Democratic domination for 2 years- they&#39;ll lose seats in the midterm elections. Dems may not even get 60 Senate seats this year-less than 50% chance right now.  If they get around 58 seats, they still need a couple Republicans for cloture.  Arlen Specter will be the most influential Repub in Washington.  I like him- he&#39;s a rare actual moderate.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23575/moving-into-amiguity/comment-page-1/#comment-159514</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well for me one of the reasons I like Obama is his intelligence and professional training.  The President of the United States is sworn to uphold the US Constitution and protect America from enemies, both foreign and domestic.  Obama was a constitutional law professor and has excellent training as an attorney.  Obama has shown a willingness to listen to others.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama also has negotiating skills which are absolutely necessary when dealing with other countries, both our friends and our enemies.  We&#039;ve seen time and time again how McCain will conduct himself.  When McCain hears something he doesn&#039;t like he scowls.  McCain also has a tendency to jump first, then ask questions.  Might be great training for a fighter pilot, but not an impulse that I want in a man with his finger on the nuclear trigger.  McCain is a trained soldier.  Obama is trained in negotiations, debating findig consensus, etc.  Obama clearly has a supple mind.  McCain has also chosen as his running mate a woman who is a strong supporter of a political group (the Alaska Independent Party) which wishes to break America up (the Alaska seceding issue).  I don&#039;t know how McCain can seriously claim that he believes in protecting America when his hand-picked chosen successor is someone who believes America should be broken apart.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama has always talked about uniting America and Obama has attracted leaders of business, politics, science, etc. who belong to both parties and independents as well.  People as diverse and well-respected as Warren Buffet, Christopher Buckley, Muhammad Ali, etc.  And of course there are those Republicans, like Crist of FL who support McCain, but aren&#039;t actively campaigning for him... And then there are Republicans like Terry in NE who re trying to link themselves with Obama to carry them into office.  McCain, on the other hand, does not have the same broad support that Obama has.  Nor has McCain made any effort to seriously woo those who are not part of the Republican base.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Here&#039;s the link to an article with a Terry ad:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/13/nebraska-republican-hangs_n_134160.html&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/13/nebras...&lt;/a&gt; )&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These lists are interesting:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama_endorsements&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama_endorsements&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_John_McCain_presidential_campaign_endorsements&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_John_McCai...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wish you the best of luck in your quest to find the right candidate for you.  For me Obama is clearly trying to bring America together and is supported by people of all backgrounds all across America, whereas McCain seems to be appealing only to his base, many of whom are uneasy with him to begin with.  Obama is running a smart campaign, whereas McCain seems to be shifting strategies from one day to the next.  If McCain can&#039;t run a campaign, I doubt that McCain can run the US government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well for me one of the reasons I like Obama is his intelligence and professional training.  The President of the United States is sworn to uphold the US Constitution and protect America from enemies, both foreign and domestic.  Obama was a constitutional law professor and has excellent training as an attorney.  Obama has shown a willingness to listen to others.  </p>
<p>Obama also has negotiating skills which are absolutely necessary when dealing with other countries, both our friends and our enemies.  We&#39;ve seen time and time again how McCain will conduct himself.  When McCain hears something he doesn&#39;t like he scowls.  McCain also has a tendency to jump first, then ask questions.  Might be great training for a fighter pilot, but not an impulse that I want in a man with his finger on the nuclear trigger.  McCain is a trained soldier.  Obama is trained in negotiations, debating findig consensus, etc.  Obama clearly has a supple mind.  McCain has also chosen as his running mate a woman who is a strong supporter of a political group (the Alaska Independent Party) which wishes to break America up (the Alaska seceding issue).  I don&#39;t know how McCain can seriously claim that he believes in protecting America when his hand-picked chosen successor is someone who believes America should be broken apart.  </p>
<p>Obama has always talked about uniting America and Obama has attracted leaders of business, politics, science, etc. who belong to both parties and independents as well.  People as diverse and well-respected as Warren Buffet, Christopher Buckley, Muhammad Ali, etc.  And of course there are those Republicans, like Crist of FL who support McCain, but aren&#39;t actively campaigning for him&#8230; And then there are Republicans like Terry in NE who re trying to link themselves with Obama to carry them into office.  McCain, on the other hand, does not have the same broad support that Obama has.  Nor has McCain made any effort to seriously woo those who are not part of the Republican base.  </p>
<p>(Here&#39;s the link to an article with a Terry ad:  <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/13/nebraska-republican-hangs_n_134160.html">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/13/nebras&#8230;</a> )</p>
<p>These lists are interesting:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama_endorsements">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama_endorsements</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_John_McCain_presidential_campaign_endorsements">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_John_McCai&#8230;</a></p>
<p>I wish you the best of luck in your quest to find the right candidate for you.  For me Obama is clearly trying to bring America together and is supported by people of all backgrounds all across America, whereas McCain seems to be appealing only to his base, many of whom are uneasy with him to begin with.  Obama is running a smart campaign, whereas McCain seems to be shifting strategies from one day to the next.  If McCain can&#39;t run a campaign, I doubt that McCain can run the US government.</p>
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		<title>By: prairielogic</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23575/moving-into-amiguity/comment-page-1/#comment-159499</link>
		<dc:creator>prairielogic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s just say that in additions to all the other reasons John McCain does not deserve to win this election... Michelle Bachmann&#039;s diatribe tonight must be added.  He and the Republican Party derserve to be decimated in this election... if for no other reason than to end the divisive hate that Bachmann and her ilk reprsent.  This is why moderate, pragmatic Republicans are deserting in droves.  And probably why you, as a thinker... will likely pull the lever for Ds this year.  It&#039;s the only way to heal the Republican Party... for it must be burned down before it can be rebuilt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdA52S4Dbg&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdA52S4Dbg&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#39;s just say that in additions to all the other reasons John McCain does not deserve to win this election&#8230; Michelle Bachmann&#39;s diatribe tonight must be added.  He and the Republican Party derserve to be decimated in this election&#8230; if for no other reason than to end the divisive hate that Bachmann and her ilk reprsent.  This is why moderate, pragmatic Republicans are deserting in droves.  And probably why you, as a thinker&#8230; will likely pull the lever for Ds this year.  It&#39;s the only way to heal the Republican Party&#8230; for it must be burned down before it can be rebuilt.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdA52S4Dbg">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdA52S4Dbg</a></p>
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		<title>By: mlhradio</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlhradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the first time *ever*, a Midwestern bastion of conservative values, the Chicago Tribune (with a hundred-plus year history of Republican endorsements), endorses Obama.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And their primary reason?  &lt;b&gt;McCain&#039;s choice of Sarah Palin.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Entire endorsement here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-chicago-tribune-endorsement%2C0%2C3472892%2Cprint.story&quot;&gt;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;McCain failed in his most important executive decision. Give him credit for choosing a female running mate--but he passed up any number of supremely qualified Republican women who could have served. Having called Obama not ready to lead, McCain chose Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. His campaign has tried to stage-manage Palin&#039;s exposure to the public. But it&#039;s clear she is not prepared to step in at a moment&#039;s notice and serve as president. McCain put his campaign before his country.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama chose a more experienced and more thoughtful running mate--he put governing before politicking. Sen. Joe Biden doesn&#039;t bring many votes to Obama, but he would help him from day one to lead the country. ... We do, though, think Obama would govern as much more of a pragmatic centrist than many people expect.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the first time *ever*, a Midwestern bastion of conservative values, the Chicago Tribune (with a hundred-plus year history of Republican endorsements), endorses Obama.  </p>
<p>And their primary reason?  <b>McCain&#39;s choice of Sarah Palin.</b></p>
<p>Entire endorsement here: <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-chicago-tribune-endorsement%2C0%2C3472892%2Cprint.story">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-&#8230;</a></p>
<p>&#8220;McCain failed in his most important executive decision. Give him credit for choosing a female running mate&#8211;but he passed up any number of supremely qualified Republican women who could have served. Having called Obama not ready to lead, McCain chose Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. His campaign has tried to stage-manage Palin&#39;s exposure to the public. But it&#39;s clear she is not prepared to step in at a moment&#39;s notice and serve as president. McCain put his campaign before his country.</p>
<p>Obama chose a more experienced and more thoughtful running mate&#8211;he put governing before politicking. Sen. Joe Biden doesn&#39;t bring many votes to Obama, but he would help him from day one to lead the country. &#8230; We do, though, think Obama would govern as much more of a pragmatic centrist than many people expect.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mlhradio</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was fairly strongly in favor of Obama from the start.  He was not my first choice among the Democratic picks (that was Biden), but I always have held him in high regard, and was always predisposed to vote for Obama.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And yet, out of the entire Republican field, the only one that I would have considered voting for this time around would have been McCain.  More specifically, I would have eagerly voted for the 2000-version of McCain, but the 2008-pander-version troubled me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the one thing that made me indifferently-against McCain to actively-against McCain was his disastrous pick of Palin.  From that point on, I could *never* vote for McCain under any circumstances, period.    Unlike you, I have absolutely *no* favorable opinions of her - even if she had a dozen more years of experience under her belt,  she would still be about five cans short of six-pack on intelligence.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For me, McCain&#039;s age *is* a factor - and the likelihood that he would become incapacitated or (heaven forbid) pass away is palpable.  The very thought that someone as clearly unqualified to run the government (much less the local quilter&#039;s bake sale) as Palin would be so close to running the entire country is just too much for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was fairly strongly in favor of Obama from the start.  He was not my first choice among the Democratic picks (that was Biden), but I always have held him in high regard, and was always predisposed to vote for Obama.</p>
<p>And yet, out of the entire Republican field, the only one that I would have considered voting for this time around would have been McCain.  More specifically, I would have eagerly voted for the 2000-version of McCain, but the 2008-pander-version troubled me.</p>
<p>But the one thing that made me indifferently-against McCain to actively-against McCain was his disastrous pick of Palin.  From that point on, I could *never* vote for McCain under any circumstances, period.    Unlike you, I have absolutely *no* favorable opinions of her &#8211; even if she had a dozen more years of experience under her belt,  she would still be about five cans short of six-pack on intelligence.</p>
<p>For me, McCain&#39;s age *is* a factor &#8211; and the likelihood that he would become incapacitated or (heaven forbid) pass away is palpable.  The very thought that someone as clearly unqualified to run the government (much less the local quilter&#39;s bake sale) as Palin would be so close to running the entire country is just too much for me.</p>
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