Comments on: Throwing Rocks Instead of Arguing Positions http://themoderatevoice.com/23512/throwing-rocks-instead-of-arguing-positions/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:12:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/23512/throwing-rocks-instead-of-arguing-positions/comment-page-1/#comment-159026 DLS Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:55:04 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/23512/throwing-rocks-instead-of-arguing-positions/#comment-159026 Around here (Detroit) it doesn't seem to be that big a deal. No doubt there is gloom from the housing situation and the job situation here. There was talk not long ago about a possible GM takeover of Chrysler. It makes sense from the standpoint that the Detroit auto makers are in desperate shape (it's now chancy if they'll avoid going bankrupt within a year because of all the money they are continuing to lose), but of course that would make many, many employees of all kinds at Chrysler redundant and result in yet another contraction of the auto industry here. There are numerous campaign signs and bumper stickers (I actually have seen a number of McCain and Palin signs and stickers, believe it or not, in addition to the Obama and Biden signs and stickers) but not a lot of widespread talk, much less in an agitated form here.<br><br>It's certainly not as some on the Left are claiming, that this is the most important election in a generation if not longer. [rolling eyes] I view this in a more mature way, just as with the economy. This looks like a bad GOP year (and in the last year or two there has been a revitalization of the Left), and I'm resigned to Obama's likely election and will be interested in how he does. If we're meant for a slump, a bear market (meaning an extended one over several months, a _real_ bear market), and even a deflationary episode, that's what was meant to be. It does no good to panic or hype things and instant results of the kind anyone may want will be impossible.<br><br>With the campaign, let's see how the two gentlemen do tonight, then I will wait over the weekend and then check Iowa Electronic Markets (a great trend follower for the elections and other contests it covers) to see if there's a change from the very current flat lines -- Obama at about 85% likely to win versus 14-15 for McCain, likely vote shares showing Obama at around 55% of the popular vote. If Colin Powell (the subject of another thread currently on this site) endorses Obama later this week or at the start of next week, I'd assume a spike in Obama's favor in those Markets. Around here (Detroit) it doesn't seem to be that big a deal. No doubt there is gloom from the housing situation and the job situation here. There was talk not long ago about a possible GM takeover of Chrysler. It makes sense from the standpoint that the Detroit auto makers are in desperate shape (it's now chancy if they'll avoid going bankrupt within a year because of all the money they are continuing to lose), but of course that would make many, many employees of all kinds at Chrysler redundant and result in yet another contraction of the auto industry here. There are numerous campaign signs and bumper stickers (I actually have seen a number of McCain and Palin signs and stickers, believe it or not, in addition to the Obama and Biden signs and stickers) but not a lot of widespread talk, much less in an agitated form here.

It's certainly not as some on the Left are claiming, that this is the most important election in a generation if not longer. [rolling eyes] I view this in a more mature way, just as with the economy. This looks like a bad GOP year (and in the last year or two there has been a revitalization of the Left), and I'm resigned to Obama's likely election and will be interested in how he does. If we're meant for a slump, a bear market (meaning an extended one over several months, a _real_ bear market), and even a deflationary episode, that's what was meant to be. It does no good to panic or hype things and instant results of the kind anyone may want will be impossible.

With the campaign, let's see how the two gentlemen do tonight, then I will wait over the weekend and then check Iowa Electronic Markets (a great trend follower for the elections and other contests it covers) to see if there's a change from the very current flat lines — Obama at about 85% likely to win versus 14-15 for McCain, likely vote shares showing Obama at around 55% of the popular vote. If Colin Powell (the subject of another thread currently on this site) endorses Obama later this week or at the start of next week, I'd assume a spike in Obama's favor in those Markets.

]]> By: lotusflwr http://themoderatevoice.com/23512/throwing-rocks-instead-of-arguing-positions/comment-page-1/#comment-158996 lotusflwr Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:28:22 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/23512/throwing-rocks-instead-of-arguing-positions/#comment-158996 Too bad we can't take a break from the election. It's really headed for quite the fever pitch in the last weeks here. Everyone's so high-strung, it's like Invasion of the Body-Snatchers, everyone trying to ferret out who has or has not been infected or cured, brainwashed, enlightened, misinformed and/or properly informed.<br><br>Time to take a break, take a walk, take a nap! Too bad we can't take a break from the election. It's really headed for quite the fever pitch in the last weeks here. Everyone's so high-strung, it's like Invasion of the Body-Snatchers, everyone trying to ferret out who has or has not been infected or cured, brainwashed, enlightened, misinformed and/or properly informed.

Time to take a break, take a walk, take a nap!

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