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Biden: Look Him in the Eye and Say It

MSNBC’s First Read:

Joe Biden echoed the campaign’s response to continued Republican efforts to highlight Obama’s past associations, adding a personal touch to the idea that McCain wasn’t willing to make the attacks in person.

“All of the things they said about Barack Obama in the TV, on the TV, at their rallies, and now on YouTube … John McCain could not bring himself to look Barack Obama in the eye and say the same things to him,” Biden said this morning. “In my neighborhood, when you’ve got something to say to a guy, you look him in the eye and you say it to him.”

That might make folks at The Weekly Standard happy. They headline, McCain Goes There, from Waukesha, Wisconsin:

In response to a broad question about how Barack Obama “got here” — presumably got his lead — John McCain didn’t name Bill Ayers but spoke of him directly. McCain said “We don’t care about an old washed up terrorist and his wife” who said earlier this decade that he wished they were more successful. (Several in the crowd chanted: “Yes we do!”)

McCain noted that Obama had referred to Ayers as “just a guy in his neighborhood,” and said “we know that’s not true. We need to know the full extent of that relationship to know whether he’s telling the truth to the American public.”

They update that with a quote from “a black McCain supporter”:

“I doubt that anyone has taken, pardon me, the ass-whoopin’ I have taken for doing [everything possible to ensure a McCain victory].” He then implored McCain to go after Barack Obama at the next debate and asked him to raise ACORN and Reverend Wright. “I am begging you, sir,” he said, as the crowd stood and applauded.

McCain said he would.

  • JSpencer
    “In my neighborhood, when you’ve got something to say to a guy, you look him in the eye and you say it to him.”

    Yup, that's the way it was when I grew up too. These days honor doesn't seem to mean as much. The accountability thing used to mean more too. Not so much anymore.
  • jchem
    I wonder then if Obama is going to look McCain in the eye and challenge him about the Keating 5? Just trying to be fair.

    This third debate just might be the cage match that everyone thought the last one would be. If Biden is essentially daring McCain to bring this up, it does make me wonder what Obama would say in response.
  • JSpencer
    jchem, here's the difference: The Keating 5 was a real event, and John McCain's part in it was real as well. Just because he got off with the equivalent of a handslap doesn't mean he wasn't in the thick of it. All the trashing of Obama which is being used to whip up certain not-so-bright McCain/Palin audiences is precisely that, trash. As for the 3rd debate? I think we're going to see a cool and steady Obama and a rather out of control (and probably offputting) McCain. I hope I'm wrong about that last part.
  • jchem
    JSpencer, I know the difference, I was just trying to figure out what Obama's response to McCain would be. And I'm not so sure of that out of control McCain either...he came across as almost tired during that last one. Maybe they'll have to put some Red Bull in his glass this time?
  • If McCain looked at Obama and repeated every past association accusation line-by-line, Obama will may reply:

    And tell me how that will fix your dismal plans to help the middle-class in these difficult times?

    Maybe...
  • RevDave
    McCain is looking and acting more and more like the cowardly lion, hiding behind Dorothy's (Palin and Cindy) skirt.
  • While I'm sure Obama needs no advice from me, if McCain does say something to his face, I would hope that Obama would thank McCain for finally doing so and then go with what T_Steel said, perhaps adding that he would let the middle class judge him.

    Or something like that.
  • Actually I'm somewhat shocked how McCain has handled everything in the home stretch. Right now, Palin is working against him since he doesn't really identify with the "Palin Conservatives". As Michelle Malkin said:

    It tells you what I’ve been saying out loud for quite some time — that McCain has always had much more of a stomach for taking own his own base than he has had for taking on the radical Left.


    He should have chosen Mitt Romney.
  • kritt11
    Joe is just such a decent honorable guy. He doesn't demand special treatment or put on airs and since he was willing to even do the politically unwise and unheard of thing of condemning his own party's

    attack ads that he thought were below the belt- you've just got to believe that he's a straight shooter.
  • kritt11
    I do believe that McCain has shocked many former supporters with the tactics he is willing to use to win. Rove IS one of his advisors- after all. The WH may fear a mountain of investigations coming out of an Obaman presidency and be begging McCain to hit below the belt.

    I also think you can correlate the slide of the Dow Jones, McCain's poll numbers, and his willingness to use smear tactics. The further behind he gets, the dirtier the mud he's been slinging. I was wondering how long it would take the man who pledged to Americans that he would not fight dirty, to start using Obama's middle name at every rally.

    After all, how many know that Sen McCain's middle name is Sidney????
  • casualobserver
    Joe is just such a decent honorable guy.

    except perhaps on matters of plagiarism and resume enhancement
  • kritt11
    co- how old is that charge--- 20 years? Surely you can come up with some better dirt than that!!!!
  • Jim_Satterfield
    Yes, it's been 20 years. He hasn't had any hint of anything like it or the slightest whiff of similar errors or other ethical lapses in that time. Just remember, McCain fans, what your guy was doing in the early '80s was much more egregious than Biden's plagiarism.
  • co fails to look forward. That's a flaw, right?
  • kritt11
    I guess in CO's world one minor 20-year-old blot on a lifelong career in public service means that you are no longer an honest or honorable person.

    If you looked closely he's probably got one of the cleaner records out there for those who have served 30+ years. In a world of Stevens and Jeffersons, I think Biden measures up pretty well. He opposes the war but his oldest son is serving there proudly. Way to go, Joe!
  • "Yes, John, I served on an educational nonprofit board with a dozen people, one of whom was a reformed campus radical who was never arrested, indicted or convicted of a crime and when I met him, was a respected professor. I also serve in the Senate, with 99 other people, some of whom, like you, Senator, were deeply involved in influence peddling during the last big economic crisis. You didn't just associate with the infamous Keating Five, John, you ARE one."
  • realprofound
    Boom...perfect reply. If anything along these lines are even whispered in McCains direction, I see him running for Alaska. Maybe that's why he picked Palin. To hide out afterwards ?!
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