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		<title>By: ACORN Agitates to &#8220;beat McCain down&#8221; and Steal the Election for Obama &#171; Beagle Scout</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACORN Agitates to &#8220;beat McCain down&#8221; and Steal the Election for Obama &#171; Beagle Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Polimom</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23311/from-tiny-acorns-grow-rot/comment-page-1/#comment-158110</link>
		<dc:creator>Polimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry -- didn&#039;t see your response, CStanley.  I agree with you -- why on earth are taxpayers financing ACORN&#039;s activities?  Even if there weren&#039;t questions about how they handle GOTV, they&#039;re enormously partisan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8212; didn&#39;t see your response, CStanley.  I agree with you &#8212; why on earth are taxpayers financing ACORN&#39;s activities?  Even if there weren&#39;t questions about how they handle GOTV, they&#39;re enormously partisan.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve been told about ACORN before.  I still am surprised Obama&#039;s association with that group was not a frequent subject of campaign information by McCain.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Use of past tense is not a psychological slip or admission of Obama&#039;s victory to come)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;ve been told about ACORN before.  I still am surprised Obama&#39;s association with that group was not a frequent subject of campaign information by McCain.</p>
<p>(Use of past tense is not a psychological slip or admission of Obama&#39;s victory to come)</p>
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		<title>By: Squirrels for Obama &#171; A View from the Nest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squirrels for Obama &#171; A View from the Nest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>welcome and thanks lotusflwr. I hope you won&#039;t be deterred by superdestroyer&#039;s mindless rant. He&#039;s cranky, and we do have some here who make comments that can only be described by the official designation used in customer service databases: A55H01E.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SD, she did not say it was illegal. She said it violates the retailer&#039;s agreement with the credit card company. BTW, for anyone who has been asked to pay 5% more when using a credit card, that too violates the Visa/MasterCard agreements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>welcome and thanks lotusflwr. I hope you won&#39;t be deterred by superdestroyer&#39;s mindless rant. He&#39;s cranky, and we do have some here who make comments that can only be described by the official designation used in customer service databases: A55H01E.</p>
<p>SD, she did not say it was illegal. She said it violates the retailer&#39;s agreement with the credit card company. BTW, for anyone who has been asked to pay 5% more when using a credit card, that too violates the Visa/MasterCard agreements.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A thought that&#039;s occurred to me today too is whether the fraudulent registrations might be affecting polling? I haven&#039;t looked into it yet but I know a lot of the polls weigh the results according to party registration- so isn&#039;t it possible that shifting the ratio of Dem: GOP registrations could be skewing things, maybe in an attempt to create artificial momentum?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not claiming that the whole effect of increased Dem voter registration is fraudulent, mind you- I certainly realize that a lot of it is real. But it seems like in these last weeks before the close of voter registration, we&#039;re suddenly hearing about thousands upon thousands of new registrations, with allegations of pretty widespread fraud, and at the very same time a major jump occurred in the polling (again, realizing that some of that is real due to McCain&#039;s missteps during the economic crisis.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thought that&#39;s occurred to me today too is whether the fraudulent registrations might be affecting polling? I haven&#39;t looked into it yet but I know a lot of the polls weigh the results according to party registration- so isn&#39;t it possible that shifting the ratio of Dem: GOP registrations could be skewing things, maybe in an attempt to create artificial momentum?</p>
<p>I&#39;m not claiming that the whole effect of increased Dem voter registration is fraudulent, mind you- I certainly realize that a lot of it is real. But it seems like in these last weeks before the close of voter registration, we&#39;re suddenly hearing about thousands upon thousands of new registrations, with allegations of pretty widespread fraud, and at the very same time a major jump occurred in the polling (again, realizing that some of that is real due to McCain&#39;s missteps during the economic crisis.)</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sentiments exactly Polimom. And what are we doing funding with taxpayer dollars an organization that pushes such voters to the polls if they openly espouse political goals that align with one party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sentiments exactly Polimom. And what are we doing funding with taxpayer dollars an organization that pushes such voters to the polls if they openly espouse political goals that align with one party?</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly off-topic, but related to something that&#039;s come up in a thread at my blog today...   what, exactly, do we gain by pushing uninformed voters into a voting booth?    Is there no way at all to get people informed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly off-topic, but related to something that&#39;s come up in a thread at my blog today&#8230;   what, exactly, do we gain by pushing uninformed voters into a voting booth?    Is there no way at all to get people informed?</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The provisional ballot is the fix to the problem you faced though, lurxst. But I certainly hope that ACORN and any other organization that turns in thousands of fraudulent registrations will face fines and/or prosecution because of the enormous burden they&#039;re placing on the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The provisional ballot is the fix to the problem you faced though, lurxst. But I certainly hope that ACORN and any other organization that turns in thousands of fraudulent registrations will face fines and/or prosecution because of the enormous burden they&#39;re placing on the system.</p>
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		<title>By: lurxst</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurxst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Offering financial incentives is a major sticking point with ACORN&#039;s GOTV efforts. Its good that they acknowledge that and hopefully they make amends to their process.&lt;br&gt;Its doubtful that Mickey Mouse will ever show up at a poll, so in the end there is no actual commission of voter fraud.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Conversely, despite protections under the Help America Vote Act, several (Republican, surprise) Secretaries of State are doing massive purges of the voter roles, within the 90 day federal moratorium mandate. This is hundreds of thousands of voters potentially being disenfranchised, compared to the handfuls that may have gotten onto the lists from disingenuous ACORN canvassers. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 2006, despite having lived at the same address for 10 years and casting a vote in every election in the same district, I was booted off the voter rolls. Of course I didnt discover this until I showed up and was handed a provisional ballot.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fixes do need to be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Offering financial incentives is a major sticking point with ACORN&#39;s GOTV efforts. Its good that they acknowledge that and hopefully they make amends to their process.<br />Its doubtful that Mickey Mouse will ever show up at a poll, so in the end there is no actual commission of voter fraud.</p>
<p>Conversely, despite protections under the Help America Vote Act, several (Republican, surprise) Secretaries of State are doing massive purges of the voter roles, within the 90 day federal moratorium mandate. This is hundreds of thousands of voters potentially being disenfranchised, compared to the handfuls that may have gotten onto the lists from disingenuous ACORN canvassers. </p>
<p>In 2006, despite having lived at the same address for 10 years and casting a vote in every election in the same district, I was booted off the voter rolls. Of course I didnt discover this until I showed up and was handed a provisional ballot.</p>
<p>Fixes do need to be made.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s a good point illustrating why both extremes are wrong, jkarczek. Your analysis works equally well in reverse, to note the irony that a leftist group espoused this market incentive without monitoring and feels that in this case the ends justifies the means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#39;s a good point illustrating why both extremes are wrong, jkarczek. Your analysis works equally well in reverse, to note the irony that a leftist group espoused this market incentive without monitoring and feels that in this case the ends justifies the means.</p>
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		<title>By: jkarczek</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkarczek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony is that an organization that is painted as a bastion of American socialism uses market incentives to stimulate performance and it&#039;s doubly ironic that voices on the right are decrying this whole mess so loudly, given their usual &quot;ends always justify the means&quot; embrace of the market. When the performance incentives are not girded with a strong ethical framework and results are not monitored stringently, corruption is the inevitable outcome. This all reminds me of something else. It&#039;s been in the news recently, but I just can&#039;t quite remember what...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony is that an organization that is painted as a bastion of American socialism uses market incentives to stimulate performance and it&#39;s doubly ironic that voices on the right are decrying this whole mess so loudly, given their usual &#8220;ends always justify the means&#8221; embrace of the market. When the performance incentives are not girded with a strong ethical framework and results are not monitored stringently, corruption is the inevitable outcome. This all reminds me of something else. It&#39;s been in the news recently, but I just can&#39;t quite remember what&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Testing-&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the timer doesn&#039;t appear to be working onthe comments, so I&#039;m just checking if the comment function is working. So far it appears that it is, but I guess my last two comments were conversation stoppers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Testing-</p>
<p>the timer doesn&#39;t appear to be working onthe comments, so I&#39;m just checking if the comment function is working. So far it appears that it is, but I guess my last two comments were conversation stoppers.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/33825&quot;&gt;this doesn&#039;t look too good &lt;/a&gt;either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And <a href="http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/33825">this doesn&#39;t look too good </a>either.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>elrod, I&#039;m glad you recognize and acknowledge the disaster that is ACORN.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wonder if you or anyone else can answer though, why Obama&#039;s fight the smears website claims that the group that he worked with, Vote Smart, is not affiliated with ACORN when ACORN itself claims that Project Vote is one of its offshoots?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumor&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s Obama&#039;s site&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12375&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s ACORN&lt;/a&gt;listing Project Vote as an affiliate group.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/1214-09.htm&quot;&gt;And here&#039;s one example of a third party &lt;/a&gt;(not a source that&#039;s critical of ACORN or VoteSmart, so no motivation to try to tie the two together as guilt by association.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elrod, I&#39;m glad you recognize and acknowledge the disaster that is ACORN.</p>
<p>I wonder if you or anyone else can answer though, why Obama&#39;s fight the smears website claims that the group that he worked with, Vote Smart, is not affiliated with ACORN when ACORN itself claims that Project Vote is one of its offshoots?</p>
<p><a href="http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumor">Here&#39;s Obama&#39;s site</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12375">Here&#39;s ACORN</a>listing Project Vote as an affiliate group.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/1214-09.htm">And here&#39;s one example of a third party </a>(not a source that&#39;s critical of ACORN or VoteSmart, so no motivation to try to tie the two together as guilt by association.)</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was the GOP, I&#039;d be thrilled about ACORN right now.  Imagine being able to legally contest votes and retool the election after-the-fact, due to this kind of gross negligence?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, wait, I imagine the GOP has already imagined this... ; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was the GOP, I&#39;d be thrilled about ACORN right now.  Imagine being able to legally contest votes and retool the election after-the-fact, due to this kind of gross negligence?</p>
<p>Oh, wait, I imagine the GOP has already imagined this&#8230; ; )</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only meant to introduce my daughter&#039;s comment as an aside, but since others have reacted to it I&#039;ll add that I responded to her by giving both sides of the GOTV argument. I try to always play devil&#039;s advocate and make the opposing case (as one does in debate training, learning to argue just as effectively for either side of an argument by presenting the relevant facts.) RememberNovember, I&#039;m sorry if you came from an authoritarian household where that kind of thinking wasn&#039;t encouraged, but thank you for not assuming that all conservative parents are guilty of that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for Jim&#039;s point, I can only say that I think a healthy cynicism of government and belief in limiting it&#039;s powers was a large part of the thinking of our founders, and I believe we do well to continue that tradition. That some people take that too far and consider the government to be the enemy of the people I suppose is true, just as I guess some people demonize corporate America to their own detriment if they choose not to avail themselves of opportunity for financial betterment through the fruits of their labor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only meant to introduce my daughter&#39;s comment as an aside, but since others have reacted to it I&#39;ll add that I responded to her by giving both sides of the GOTV argument. I try to always play devil&#39;s advocate and make the opposing case (as one does in debate training, learning to argue just as effectively for either side of an argument by presenting the relevant facts.) RememberNovember, I&#39;m sorry if you came from an authoritarian household where that kind of thinking wasn&#39;t encouraged, but thank you for not assuming that all conservative parents are guilty of that.</p>
<p>As for Jim&#39;s point, I can only say that I think a healthy cynicism of government and belief in limiting it&#39;s powers was a large part of the thinking of our founders, and I believe we do well to continue that tradition. That some people take that too far and consider the government to be the enemy of the people I suppose is true, just as I guess some people demonize corporate America to their own detriment if they choose not to avail themselves of opportunity for financial betterment through the fruits of their labor.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers for the link, lotusflwr.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Layout resembles defamer/gawker.  Looks like lots of great reading.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Always good to know how one is being reamed, rather than just being reamed in ignorance.   But, as you say, we do have choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers for the link, lotusflwr.</p>
<p>Layout resembles defamer/gawker.  Looks like lots of great reading.  </p>
<p>Always good to know how one is being reamed, rather than just being reamed in ignorance.   But, as you say, we do have choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I see that no one mentioned that ACORN turns in anyone they catch doing those things. They still need to completely revamp how they run their registration drives, though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I wonder why so many people do not vote in the U.S.?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How much does the constant drumbeat of criticism of government by American conservatives contribute to it? How much does the ignorance of the majority of Americans concerning their government and its functions contribute? There are probably more factors than we could think of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I see that no one mentioned that ACORN turns in anyone they catch doing those things. They still need to completely revamp how they run their registration drives, though.</p>
<p>&#8220;I wonder why so many people do not vote in the U.S.?&#8221;</p>
<p>How much does the constant drumbeat of criticism of government by American conservatives contribute to it? How much does the ignorance of the majority of Americans concerning their government and its functions contribute? There are probably more factors than we could think of.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23311/from-tiny-acorns-grow-rot/comment-page-1/#comment-157667</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that receipt checkers are illegal is a stretch.  The posts I saw mix up restrictions on the government with restirctions of store keepers in the own store.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lotusflwr, you seem like the type of person who sees shop lifting as a victimless crime that should just be ignored.  It is very much like the current policies being promoted by both political parties.  Let the responsbile honest people be responsible for all of the irresponsible people.   You people be willing to give up store security if it meant that everyone paid 10% more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that receipt checkers are illegal is a stretch.  The posts I saw mix up restrictions on the government with restirctions of store keepers in the own store.  </p>
<p>Lotusflwr, you seem like the type of person who sees shop lifting as a victimless crime that should just be ignored.  It is very much like the current policies being promoted by both political parties.  Let the responsbile honest people be responsible for all of the irresponsible people.   You people be willing to give up store security if it meant that everyone paid 10% more?</p>
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