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	<title>Comments on: California Gay Marriage Ban Picks Up Support</title>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23301/california-gay-marriage-ban-picks-up-support/comment-page-1/#comment-157621</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have linked to this post from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/released/marriage/why8.html&quot;&gt;Why and How Prop 8 must pass.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;California politics has always been a rough and tumble sport - Prop 8 is no exception. The rhetoric levels have been high and getting higher. Protests and boycotts have been done by both sides. And, to some part demonetization of those on the other side ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;... webcast, which articulates the position, is not one of hate as people pray and fast for the protection of marriage, ... &quot;gay” activists and their allies use the accusation of hatred as a weapon, not because they believe it is true (they know that most of their opponents do not hate them), but because it is a very effective tool of psychological manipulation -- especially when used against Christians.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;... Christians have been called bigots and haters (some other things I will not publish), and SF Mayor Gavin Newsom has not exactly received a lot of kind letters, he has been featured on a yes on 8 campaign ad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have linked to this post from <a href="http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/released/marriage/why8.html">Why and How Prop 8 must pass.</a></p>
<p>California politics has always been a rough and tumble sport &#8211; Prop 8 is no exception. The rhetoric levels have been high and getting higher. Protests and boycotts have been done by both sides. And, to some part demonetization of those on the other side &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; webcast, which articulates the position, is not one of hate as people pray and fast for the protection of marriage, &#8230; &#8220;gay” activists and their allies use the accusation of hatred as a weapon, not because they believe it is true (they know that most of their opponents do not hate them), but because it is a very effective tool of psychological manipulation &#8212; especially when used against Christians.</p>
<p>&#8230; Christians have been called bigots and haters (some other things I will not publish), and SF Mayor Gavin Newsom has not exactly received a lot of kind letters, he has been featured on a yes on 8 campaign ad.</p>
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		<title>By: roro80</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23301/california-gay-marriage-ban-picks-up-support/comment-page-1/#comment-157536</link>
		<dc:creator>roro80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The passing of this bill would be devistating.  I live in the gay district in San Francisco, and I can&#039;t tell you what a resplendent summer of love and committment this has been.   All of the weddings I went to (and one I witnessed legally), were between two people who had been together a helluva lot longer than I&#039;ve ever been with anyone, including my fiancee.  9 years, 13 years, 18 years -- why can&#039;t they have the same rights as any other couple?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And this whole &quot;states rights&quot; crap is clearly a sham, as these couples -- now LEGALLY married by the laws of our state -- are not recognized federally or in other states, don&#039;t get the federal benefits of marriage, can&#039;t move out of the state if they want state benefits.  If it&#039;s truly a state&#039;s right to regulate marriage, then this should not be the case.  Californians have to recognize 14-year old shot-gun wedding cousins who are married in states where that sort of thing is legal, because of states rights and the Full Faith and Credit Clause.  It&#039;s disgusting that that doesn&#039;t apply to people legally married in California.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, no on 8!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The passing of this bill would be devistating.  I live in the gay district in San Francisco, and I can&#39;t tell you what a resplendent summer of love and committment this has been.   All of the weddings I went to (and one I witnessed legally), were between two people who had been together a helluva lot longer than I&#39;ve ever been with anyone, including my fiancee.  9 years, 13 years, 18 years &#8212; why can&#39;t they have the same rights as any other couple?  </p>
<p>And this whole &#8220;states rights&#8221; crap is clearly a sham, as these couples &#8212; now LEGALLY married by the laws of our state &#8212; are not recognized federally or in other states, don&#39;t get the federal benefits of marriage, can&#39;t move out of the state if they want state benefits.  If it&#39;s truly a state&#39;s right to regulate marriage, then this should not be the case.  Californians have to recognize 14-year old shot-gun wedding cousins who are married in states where that sort of thing is legal, because of states rights and the Full Faith and Credit Clause.  It&#39;s disgusting that that doesn&#39;t apply to people legally married in California.</p>
<p>Anyway, no on 8!</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;ll be a sad day for America and especially California if this ban passes. Discrimination of this sort has always been on the wrong side of morality, and history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;ll be a sad day for America and especially California if this ban passes. Discrimination of this sort has always been on the wrong side of morality, and history.</p>
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		<title>By: California Gay Marriage Ban Picks Up Support &#171; A Blogspotting Anglican Episcopalian</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23301/california-gay-marriage-ban-picks-up-support/comment-page-1/#comment-157474</link>
		<dc:creator>California Gay Marriage Ban Picks Up Support &#171; A Blogspotting Anglican Episcopalian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Source: California Gay Marriage Ban Picks Up Support [...]</description>
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		<title>By: New California Polls Show Yes On 8 Now Leading &#171; Protecting Marriage</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23301/california-gay-marriage-ban-picks-up-support/comment-page-1/#comment-157450</link>
		<dc:creator>New California Polls Show Yes On 8 Now Leading &#171; Protecting Marriage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it appears voters are swinging more and more in support of Proposition 8. The Moderate Voice also has a post on these latest polls here. I reprint the email below: I reprint the email below: ProtectMarriage.com - Yes on Proposition [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it appears voters are swinging more and more in support of Proposition 8. The Moderate Voice also has a post on these latest polls here. I reprint the email below: I reprint the email below: ProtectMarriage.com &#8211; Yes on Proposition [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New California Polls Show Yes On 8 Now Leading &#171; Messenger and Advocate</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23301/california-gay-marriage-ban-picks-up-support/comment-page-1/#comment-157449</link>
		<dc:creator>New California Polls Show Yes On 8 Now Leading &#171; Messenger and Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it appears voters are swinging more and more in support of Proposition 8.  The Moderate Voice also has a post on these latest polls here. I reprint the email below: ProtectMarriage.com - Yes on Proposition [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it appears voters are swinging more and more in support of Proposition 8.  The Moderate Voice also has a post on these latest polls here. I reprint the email below: ProtectMarriage.com &#8211; Yes on Proposition [...]</p>
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