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Colbert in Marvel Comics & at The New Yorker Festival

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Wired interviews Joe Quesada, editor-in-chief of Marvel Comics, and comic writer Mark Waid, on Stephen Colbert running for president in the Marvel Universe:

Wired.com: Do you wish he’d run for president in our more boring universe?

Waid: Dear God, yes, if only because it would rock to have Jon Stewart as the veep.

Quesada: Stephen tried to run for president in our boring universe, but unfortunately his campaign was stymied by the powers that be. Not so in the Marvel Universe, where his campaign is in full swing and gaining momentum, once again proving that we would all rather be living in the Marvel Universe than the real one.

The Colbert issue of Amazing Spider-Man hits streets Oct. 15.

Colbert was at The New Yorker Festival over the weekend. Rachel Sklar was there and summarizes his comments on his character:

  • Colbert was brought up to be polite — a gentlemanly South Carolina boy, who married his hometown sweetheart — so initially it was a challenge to overcome that: “It’s not in my nature to be a jerk — but I do enjoy it.”
  • He cares about his guests’ feelings, but not what they think of him: “There’s a difference.” He hopes he doesn’t offend them — “because usually these are very nice people, except for Bill Kristol.” (He regrets having offended Barney Frank, who he thinks is still mad.)
  • How the character formed: Originally based on Geraldo Rivera and Stone Philips — “national reporters with a real sense of mission.” Then he looked around and realized that the real bombast was coming from commentators…like Bill O’Reilly. And it went from there.
  • His character, said Colbert, has “an unexamined life.” Levy asks him if he’s examined it; Colbert says, yes, they have a bio on the character that they are constantly adding to — he has a dog named Gipper, he went to Dartmouth, he dated Laura Ingraham. He says it on the show, it goes in the bio. But it’s been an evolving process, right from the start: “I did not intend for this character to take my name.” Oops.
  • Also of the screen Colbert: “Like everyone else, he wants to be loved, he just doesn’t value curiosity or knowledge” Also, a key point: “He’s a victim.” This, said Colbert, is what “amazing” about guys like Bill O”Reilly: “He trumpets his power while in the same breath declaring his victimhood.” (As evidence, he cited a long line of Presidents, gazillion Christian members of Congress.) On the victimhood point, he dings McCain for his recent bellyaching: “Life isn’t fair…it’s completely unfair that you’re unlikeable.” Ouch! (Earlier, he had acknowledged his liberal leanings and joked that he was a “pinko.”)
  • He tells his guests: “My character is an idiot. So come on an disabuse me of my ignorance.” He recalled the moment when he was about to say that to O’Reilly, and then pausing briefly as the irony sank in. Then he went ahead and gave his usual speech; O’Reilly didn’t seem to notice anything.
  • The only time Colbert was afraid of breaking character was when Jane Fonda sat on his lap.

    • Marlowecan
      Alas, Marvel Comics has a history of such stunts, going back to their SNL crossover with Spider-man and John Belushi & Co.

      That said, even if one doesn't share Colbert's liberal politics, one must admire his talent. He has long had an interest in comic superheroes in this regard.

      I would encourage anyone to rent "Harvey Birdman, Attorney-at-Law" to see Colbert in full Surrealistic Comedy mode as crazed Phil Sebben and even more crazed Myron Reducto. "Booty Noir" was a classic. Seeing Shaggy and Scooby-Doo dragged into court on drug possession charges . . . and the Flintstones meeting the Sopranos . . . the list goes on . . .

      Great stuff. A very talented man.
    • I adore Steven Colbert's brand of humor. He's hilarious in Harvey Birdman Attorney-At-Law and he also did a few episodes of The Venture Bros. as Dr. Impossible (Venture Bros. is a hilarious spoof on Johnny Quest-type shows brought into the current day, and Dr. Impossible is a character based off of Mr. Fantastic from the Fantastic Four comics.)

      Hearing Colbert reminisce about Rusty Venture's behavior in his college physics course as "a bit of a gigglepuss" always cracks me up.

      I'm not at all into comics but I'm tempted to get this one just because I love Steven Colbert so much. I wish the REAL Colbert would run for President, he's a very sharp guy.
    • Marlowecan
      Lotusflwr...

      Thanks for the heads-up re: Colbert in Venture Bros. Another Colbert work out of left field (political pun unintended :) Must check it out.

      Colbert's multi-dimensional range of comedic interests is invariably surprising.

      Cheers.
    • JWindish
      I will rent Harvey Birdman. Thanks for the pointer! As to Colbert's politics, I agree they sure look like they lean left, but from the Jane Fonda link in my post there's this:

      At one point, Ariel Levy asked him about what it was like to speak truth to power, and Colbert disagreed with the premise of the question. He said that he tries to focus exclusively on the jokes, because if he focuses on pursuing an agenda, his show would suck.

      Colbert said that he views his show as constructing a false reality to highlight the absurdity of reality, in opposition to the Daily Show, which he says he views as deconstructing reality. By the end of the night, he agreed that he didn't speak truth to power, but instead spoke 'truthiness to power'. I thought that was a good line.
    • Marlowecan
      "He said that he tries to focus exclusively on the jokes, because if he focuses on pursuing an agenda, his show would suck."

      That is an excellent quote, Joe. . . showing how Colbert is anything but heavy-handed in his approach to comedy.

      I believe Colbert is right. It is interesting how, if one has an "agenda" in political comedy . . . even if an audience is of a similar political bent . . . it weighs down the comedy.

      In contrast, there is something anarchic about really good comedy. . . even political comedy.

      I remember the hit British show "Spitting Image" from the late 80s/90s . . . with its mad puppets mocking everyone in British political and cultural life. Seeing once a week Margaret Thatcher beating her Cabinet Ministers' heads with a baseball bat and grinding their fingers with a blender. . .or Prince Charles as a mad Vegan who preferred to talk to his plants than his wife and family. . .or the beloved Queen Mum as a half-mad old lady on the booze, who nonetheless was the most sane person in her dysfunctional family.

      Somehow its anarchic, take-no-prisoners comedy (the Labour Party came in for equally brutal treatment btw) got the heart of reality through surreal comedy.
    • timr
      The brits have always been way ahead of the US in satire. I always thought that the show Yes, Minister which then morphed into Yes, Prime Minister was one of the funniest programs going. It seems that we here in the US lack imagineation as we continue to copy british comedy TV programs.
      As a near 60 year old I never miss either TDS or The Colbert Report, after only finding TDS in 2003. I have watched Colbert from the begining and have truely enjoyed the evolving of his character. It has been a lot of fun watching him finally-mostly-conquer his early tendency to laugh along with his audience on the really funny bits. His performance at the WaDC dinner in front of all of the bushies was a masterpiece of satire. To bad those in the village panned it, but then they failed to note that his speech was also about them. I have wondered if the person responsible for hiring Colbert actually knew what he was doing-call it subversive anarchy-or if he thought that the character was the person.
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