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	<title>Comments on: McCain Campaign Negativity Officially Now Hits New Low</title>
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		<title>By: curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23210/mccain-campaign-negativity-officially-now-hits-new-low/comment-page-1/#comment-157448</link>
		<dc:creator>curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive a silly question:  I grew up abroad, with the metric system... Could I impose upon your good nature to tell me what on earth a &quot;mega centimeter&quot; is?  If you say the campaign is &quot;a mega centimeter away from McCarthyism&quot; - my understanding is that the &quot;mega&quot; prefix means an order of multitudes in the millions... So a mega-centimeter would be one million centimeters, or 10,000 meters, or 10 Kilometers, roughly 6.2 miles.  Is that really what you meant to say?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And McCarthyism?  Please, why don&#039;t you convict her of the Kennedy assassination as well, while you&#039;re at it?  Hey, she likes guns, she must have been the second gunman on the Grassy Knoll - and the fact that she wasn&#039;t even born at the time is just one of those silly, irrelevant, inconsequential things we call facts...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look, two wrongs don&#039;t make a right, but the Obama campaign deserves it.  Did you voice such loud outrage when they brought up the Keating Five, completely omitting the fact that McCain was totally exonerated?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the media, no, they don&#039;t deserve the insults that Palin is tossing at them.  They deserve the insults Ahmadinejad has tossed at Israel, and then some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive a silly question:  I grew up abroad, with the metric system&#8230; Could I impose upon your good nature to tell me what on earth a &#8220;mega centimeter&#8221; is?  If you say the campaign is &#8220;a mega centimeter away from McCarthyism&#8221; &#8211; my understanding is that the &#8220;mega&#8221; prefix means an order of multitudes in the millions&#8230; So a mega-centimeter would be one million centimeters, or 10,000 meters, or 10 Kilometers, roughly 6.2 miles.  Is that really what you meant to say?</p>
<p>And McCarthyism?  Please, why don&#39;t you convict her of the Kennedy assassination as well, while you&#39;re at it?  Hey, she likes guns, she must have been the second gunman on the Grassy Knoll &#8211; and the fact that she wasn&#39;t even born at the time is just one of those silly, irrelevant, inconsequential things we call facts&#8230;</p>
<p>Look, two wrongs don&#39;t make a right, but the Obama campaign deserves it.  Did you voice such loud outrage when they brought up the Keating Five, completely omitting the fact that McCain was totally exonerated?</p>
<p>As for the media, no, they don&#39;t deserve the insults that Palin is tossing at them.  They deserve the insults Ahmadinejad has tossed at Israel, and then some.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - what, you an official part of the Obama campaign now? McCain speaks a very unpleasant truth, and you are not man enough to print it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Go back to playing with puppets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; what, you an official part of the Obama campaign now? McCain speaks a very unpleasant truth, and you are not man enough to print it?</p>
<p>Go back to playing with puppets.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the liberal attacks on Palin, I hardly see how liberals have any room to complain about McCain attacking Obama&#039;s character.  Its not like the Obama campaign hasn&#039;t engaged in this too, look at their spanish ad trying to tie McCain to Limbaugh and their efforts for months to try to run against George Bush.  Those with some perspective have good justification to accuse and condemn both camps for their actions, but anyone who would point the finger at just one side is fooling only themselves and other partisans, no matter which candidate you are supporting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Both campaigns are guilty as charged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the liberal attacks on Palin, I hardly see how liberals have any room to complain about McCain attacking Obama&#39;s character.  Its not like the Obama campaign hasn&#39;t engaged in this too, look at their spanish ad trying to tie McCain to Limbaugh and their efforts for months to try to run against George Bush.  Those with some perspective have good justification to accuse and condemn both camps for their actions, but anyone who would point the finger at just one side is fooling only themselves and other partisans, no matter which candidate you are supporting.</p>
<p>Both campaigns are guilty as charged.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenKang</title>
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		<dc:creator>CitizenKang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On why &quot;overt racism&quot; isn&#039;t Obama&#039;s biggest problem I suggest Nicholas Kristof&#039;s NYT op-ed, link &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/opinion/05kristof.html?hp=&amp;pagewanted=print&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My humble thoughts on this new tack (and a few other things) &lt;a href=&quot;http://stevekangsblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-and-aversive-racisim.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On why &#8220;overt racism&#8221; isn&#39;t Obama&#39;s biggest problem I suggest Nicholas Kristof&#39;s NYT op-ed, link <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/opinion/05kristof.html?hp=&#038;pagewanted=print">here</a>.</p>
<p>My humble thoughts on this new tack (and a few other things) <a href="http://stevekangsblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-and-aversive-racisim.html">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elrod, are you serious about your bogus &quot;racism&quot; explanation of opposition to radical subversive criminality?  Whatever happened to &quot;thou shalt not lie&quot;?  Is that subject to the same &quot;cafeteria&quot; selectivity we see from the American Cafeteria Liberties Union?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elrod, are you serious about your bogus &#8220;racism&#8221; explanation of opposition to radical subversive criminality?  Whatever happened to &#8220;thou shalt not lie&#8221;?  Is that subject to the same &#8220;cafeteria&#8221; selectivity we see from the American Cafeteria Liberties Union?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Liberal Voice will hit lower lows before Obama wins the election this November and there is no more excuse for libs to be agitated.  McCain&#039;s campaign efforts are likely to accomplish little.  That&#039;s especially true insofar as the cultists are concerned; they have refused to examine any of Obama&#039;s negatives from Day One.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More interesting tomorrow on my airplane ride to California will be last week&#039;s and this week&#039;s Economist, which addresses the bailout, the two US Presidential candidates (may also graze the two VP candidates), and economic problems in the rest of the developed world (the USA is not the only place with problems).  I have to say, that&#039;s more important right now than c hildish overreaction to the McCain campaign.  Roger Bootle&#039;s second well-known book (&quot;Money for Nothing&quot;) goes on the airplane in addition to the boat trip this weekend across Lake Michigan and back as it discusses not only deflation risks and the stock bubble, but the housing bubble and the risk of a developed-world slump instead of continued world-wide economic progress (mainly through expanded trade, the best thing that could happen to the undeveloped _and_ developed world).  But the articles about the two Presidential candidates will be worthwhile.  I believe this week&#039;s Economist has a 20-page or longer section about this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Liberal Voice will hit lower lows before Obama wins the election this November and there is no more excuse for libs to be agitated.  McCain&#39;s campaign efforts are likely to accomplish little.  That&#39;s especially true insofar as the cultists are concerned; they have refused to examine any of Obama&#39;s negatives from Day One.</p>
<p>More interesting tomorrow on my airplane ride to California will be last week&#39;s and this week&#39;s Economist, which addresses the bailout, the two US Presidential candidates (may also graze the two VP candidates), and economic problems in the rest of the developed world (the USA is not the only place with problems).  I have to say, that&#39;s more important right now than c hildish overreaction to the McCain campaign.  Roger Bootle&#39;s second well-known book (&#8221;Money for Nothing&#8221;) goes on the airplane in addition to the boat trip this weekend across Lake Michigan and back as it discusses not only deflation risks and the stock bubble, but the housing bubble and the risk of a developed-world slump instead of continued world-wide economic progress (mainly through expanded trade, the best thing that could happen to the undeveloped _and_ developed world).  But the articles about the two Presidential candidates will be worthwhile.  I believe this week&#39;s Economist has a 20-page or longer section about this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: donthelibertariandemocrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>donthelibertariandemocrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rambie,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for asking:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://don-thelibertariandemocrat.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;http://don-thelibertariandemocrat.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Take care,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rambie,</p>
<p>Thanks for asking:</p>
<p><a href="http://don-thelibertariandemocrat.blogspot.com/">http://don-thelibertariandemocrat.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>Take care,</p>
<p>Don</p>
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		<title>By: Rambie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rambie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>donthelibertariandemocrat, &quot;On my own little blog today, ... &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry if you&#039;ve mentioned it before, what what is your blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>donthelibertariandemocrat, &#8220;On my own little blog today, &#8230; &#8220;</p>
<p>Sorry if you&#39;ve mentioned it before, what what is your blog?</p>
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		<title>By: mlhradio</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlhradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t worry much about the false accusations of assocation with Rezko and Ayers and the like by the anti-American wing of the Republican Party these days.  A few months ago, I might have been more concerned.  But at this point, as the saying goes, it&#039;s already &quot;baked into the cake&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Everybody who cares about this stuff has already heard about it, and already made up their minds.  Bringing it up now is not going to sway any new minds.  (Same is true with McCain&#039;s sleazy Keating Five connections - old news, folks).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fibber McCain&#039;s best hope is that any heated discussion over Obama&#039;s already-disproven links with Ayers and Rezko and the like is that it will draw out all of the oxygen from the room and prevent real discussion about real issues.  However, external events have a way of driving the discussions, and any non-political event (like, say the meltdown of the US financial system, anyone?) can easily disrail any attempt at a smear campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t worry much about the false accusations of assocation with Rezko and Ayers and the like by the anti-American wing of the Republican Party these days.  A few months ago, I might have been more concerned.  But at this point, as the saying goes, it&#39;s already &#8220;baked into the cake&#8221;.</p>
<p>Everybody who cares about this stuff has already heard about it, and already made up their minds.  Bringing it up now is not going to sway any new minds.  (Same is true with McCain&#39;s sleazy Keating Five connections &#8211; old news, folks).</p>
<p>Fibber McCain&#39;s best hope is that any heated discussion over Obama&#39;s already-disproven links with Ayers and Rezko and the like is that it will draw out all of the oxygen from the room and prevent real discussion about real issues.  However, external events have a way of driving the discussions, and any non-political event (like, say the meltdown of the US financial system, anyone?) can easily disrail any attempt at a smear campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One advantage of countering with Keating is that not only do you bring up McCain&#039;s past poor judgement, but you also tie him yet again to the Bush dynasty.  Remember, Neil Bush and Silverado Savings and Loan?  That collapse alone cost tax payers over one billion dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One advantage of countering with Keating is that not only do you bring up McCain&#39;s past poor judgement, but you also tie him yet again to the Bush dynasty.  Remember, Neil Bush and Silverado Savings and Loan?  That collapse alone cost tax payers over one billion dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Gichin13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gichin13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is well documented evidence of tiese between Keating and McCain.  Keating did business with Cindy and her dad.  They were friends for years and Keating was not only a contributor, but also a long time friend.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The better question is not verifiable association, but whether McCain acted improperly on Keating&#039;s behalf.  My recall is that McCain pretty stupidly went to a meeting with 3-4 Senators (maybe Cranston, Glenn, somebody else?) early on that could have been construed as pressuring regulators to back off Keating.  After the stench started to whiff off Keating more clearly, McCain backed off and had nothing else to do with him (I believe a couple of the folks kept pushing the issue but McCain bailed out).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have not seen Obama go after the Keating 5 issue though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is well documented evidence of tiese between Keating and McCain.  Keating did business with Cindy and her dad.  They were friends for years and Keating was not only a contributor, but also a long time friend.</p>
<p>The better question is not verifiable association, but whether McCain acted improperly on Keating&#39;s behalf.  My recall is that McCain pretty stupidly went to a meeting with 3-4 Senators (maybe Cranston, Glenn, somebody else?) early on that could have been construed as pressuring regulators to back off Keating.  After the stench started to whiff off Keating more clearly, McCain backed off and had nothing else to do with him (I believe a couple of the folks kept pushing the issue but McCain bailed out).</p>
<p>I have not seen Obama go after the Keating 5 issue though.</p>
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		<title>By: Gichin13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gichin13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, pretty scary to see what crack does to some folks.  Put down that pipe people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, pretty scary to see what crack does to some folks.  Put down that pipe people.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Merritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Merritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 08:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve made my ultimatum for verifiable proof of a radical association with Ayers, Wright, Rezko, et al. to the morning after the third debate.  If, by then, there is nothing from the McCain camp but questions and fear mongering, they are off my radar for consideration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Same goes for Obama with Keating et al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve made my ultimatum for verifiable proof of a radical association with Ayers, Wright, Rezko, et al. to the morning after the third debate.  If, by then, there is nothing from the McCain camp but questions and fear mongering, they are off my radar for consideration.</p>
<p>Same goes for Obama with Keating et al.</p>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Elaborate said.   I&#039;ve spent the day watching football and then descend to this place after watching a sprightly SNL spoof on both the debates and another skit on the stupidity of Pelosi, Frank, and GWB.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bob Bennett was involved in the Keating Five investigation, he is a left-wing Dem and the brother of Bill Bennett who isn&#039;t.  Bob says McCain had zero culpability in the Keating mess &amp; the four Dem Senators coaxed him into it for &quot;balance.&quot;   McCain was guilty of bad judgment, nothing more.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barney Frank&#039;s boyfriend was involved in the CRA ramp-up in Fannie Mae during the time Clinton proposed it and Frank blocked investigations of the fact that the CRA was defaulting at a rate five times above the normal rate---in the early nineties.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s a conflict of interest almost as big as that male prostitution ring Barney was running in his Capitol Hill basement.   BTW, Saturday Night Live&#039;s Pelosi skit had her calling in her friend George Soros who said he was about to short the US dollar like he shorted the UK pound in the early &#039;90s.   Soros is still under indictment in France, though in corrupt Britain, he has managed to buy off his charges of criminal malfeasance.   SNL did the country a service by  recalling Soros as the Caliostro behind sock-puppets Pelosi, Dodd, and Frank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Elaborate said.   I&#39;ve spent the day watching football and then descend to this place after watching a sprightly SNL spoof on both the debates and another skit on the stupidity of Pelosi, Frank, and GWB.   </p>
<p>Bob Bennett was involved in the Keating Five investigation, he is a left-wing Dem and the brother of Bill Bennett who isn&#39;t.  Bob says McCain had zero culpability in the Keating mess &#038; the four Dem Senators coaxed him into it for &#8220;balance.&#8221;   McCain was guilty of bad judgment, nothing more.</p>
<p>Barney Frank&#39;s boyfriend was involved in the CRA ramp-up in Fannie Mae during the time Clinton proposed it and Frank blocked investigations of the fact that the CRA was defaulting at a rate five times above the normal rate&#8212;in the early nineties.</p>
<p>That&#39;s a conflict of interest almost as big as that male prostitution ring Barney was running in his Capitol Hill basement.   BTW, Saturday Night Live&#39;s Pelosi skit had her calling in her friend George Soros who said he was about to short the US dollar like he shorted the UK pound in the early &#39;90s.   Soros is still under indictment in France, though in corrupt Britain, he has managed to buy off his charges of criminal malfeasance.   SNL did the country a service by  recalling Soros as the Caliostro behind sock-puppets Pelosi, Dodd, and Frank.</p>
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		<title>By: donthelibertariandemocrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>donthelibertariandemocrat</dc:creator>
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		<description>You have mentioned in just a few posts Hugh Hewitt and Bill O&#039;Reilly. On my own little blog today, I considered mark-to-market rules, the fact that the federal debt under Bush has grown more than any other president, the consequences for the economy of less equity extraction from homes, whether bailouts make money, what caused the rise of home prices, etc. I consider that dealing with issues. I have never had the occasion to mention Hugh Hewitt or Bill O&#039;Reilly. I enjoy your blog, but you cover quite a bit more than just issues. I consider Palin&#039;s remark more important than anything said by Bill O&#039;Reilly or Hugh Hewitt. I guess you don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have mentioned in just a few posts Hugh Hewitt and Bill O&#39;Reilly. On my own little blog today, I considered mark-to-market rules, the fact that the federal debt under Bush has grown more than any other president, the consequences for the economy of less equity extraction from homes, whether bailouts make money, what caused the rise of home prices, etc. I consider that dealing with issues. I have never had the occasion to mention Hugh Hewitt or Bill O&#39;Reilly. I enjoy your blog, but you cover quite a bit more than just issues. I consider Palin&#39;s remark more important than anything said by Bill O&#39;Reilly or Hugh Hewitt. I guess you don&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: JWeidner</title>
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		<dc:creator>JWeidner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Elaborate.  Pretty weak tea if all you can do is spout Republican talking points.  Try harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Elaborate.  Pretty weak tea if all you can do is spout Republican talking points.  Try harder.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three months ago I worried about this sort of thing. Now? Not a chance.  This is so transparently desperate and the electorate is concerned about the economy more than anything else.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can promise you one thing: anybody who claims to be voting against Obama only because of these &quot;radical associations&quot; is a racist. It&#039;s the same as believing he&#039;s a Muslim. Utterly irrational and nonsensical statements.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, if you oppose Obama for other reasons and you throw in Ayers/Wright, etc. for good measure then you are not necessarily a racist. But if you oppose him ONLY because of these &quot;association&quot; issues then you most likely are racist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve found in conversations I&#039;ve had with admitted racists - and there are plenty here in Tennessee - who have exhausted all the anti-Obama cultural arguments (these are people who agree with Obama on the issues) and the &quot;associations&quot; thing is still part of the arsenal. These same people have explicitly said they worry that Obama will &quot;give everything to the blacks.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem is that the associations argument only works for committed racists who were not likely to vote for Obama no matter what. Those who really do care about the economy and are planning to vote for Obama on that basis are not going to pay attention these association issues - especially as they&#039;ve been in the public view for months now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My advice to the Obama campaign when these ads start rolling out is to mock McCain for soiling himself with dishonor, call him a &quot;tired and desperate old man watching his political future fall away,&quot; etc. If necessary, bring up the Keating Five.  But don&#039;t get thrown too far off track with this stuff. Obama has proven so far that by sticking with his message he wins. He doesn&#039;t need to get in a tit-for-tat with a loser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three months ago I worried about this sort of thing. Now? Not a chance.  This is so transparently desperate and the electorate is concerned about the economy more than anything else.</p>
<p>I can promise you one thing: anybody who claims to be voting against Obama only because of these &#8220;radical associations&#8221; is a racist. It&#39;s the same as believing he&#39;s a Muslim. Utterly irrational and nonsensical statements.</p>
<p>Now, if you oppose Obama for other reasons and you throw in Ayers/Wright, etc. for good measure then you are not necessarily a racist. But if you oppose him ONLY because of these &#8220;association&#8221; issues then you most likely are racist.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve found in conversations I&#39;ve had with admitted racists &#8211; and there are plenty here in Tennessee &#8211; who have exhausted all the anti-Obama cultural arguments (these are people who agree with Obama on the issues) and the &#8220;associations&#8221; thing is still part of the arsenal. These same people have explicitly said they worry that Obama will &#8220;give everything to the blacks.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem is that the associations argument only works for committed racists who were not likely to vote for Obama no matter what. Those who really do care about the economy and are planning to vote for Obama on that basis are not going to pay attention these association issues &#8211; especially as they&#39;ve been in the public view for months now.</p>
<p>My advice to the Obama campaign when these ads start rolling out is to mock McCain for soiling himself with dishonor, call him a &#8220;tired and desperate old man watching his political future fall away,&#8221; etc. If necessary, bring up the Keating Five.  But don&#39;t get thrown too far off track with this stuff. Obama has proven so far that by sticking with his message he wins. He doesn&#39;t need to get in a tit-for-tat with a loser.</p>
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		<title>By: T_Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>T_Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSpencer said: &quot;Giving this a pass because it&#039;s &quot;politics&quot; is also wrong, since standards have to be adhered to at some point.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your right but it isn&#039;t going to happen during Election &#039;08.  Maybe we&#039;ll get better in Election &#039;12.  Maybe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JSpencer said: &#8220;Giving this a pass because it&#39;s &#8220;politics&#8221; is also wrong, since standards have to be adhered to at some point.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your right but it isn&#39;t going to happen during Election &#39;08.  Maybe we&#39;ll get better in Election &#39;12.  Maybe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next debate:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain&lt;/strong&gt;: My opponent, Barack &lt;em&gt;Hussein&lt;/em&gt; Obama,  pals around with terrorists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama&lt;/strong&gt;: John, I understand you&#039;re angry. A lot of Americans are angry these days. That&#039;s because many promises have not been kept these last eight years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next debate:</p>
<p><strong>McCain</strong>: My opponent, Barack <em>Hussein</em> Obama,  pals around with terrorists.</p>
<p><strong>Obama</strong>: John, I understand you&#39;re angry. A lot of Americans are angry these days. That&#39;s because many promises have not been kept these last eight years.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s character has been vetted quite thoroughly. Those who don&#039;t accept this are likely pinning thier hopes on connections that have already been debunked or discarded as bogus. That said, I realize his detractors don&#039;t really care so much about &quot;vetting&quot; as they do about &quot;smearing&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#39;s character has been vetted quite thoroughly. Those who don&#39;t accept this are likely pinning thier hopes on connections that have already been debunked or discarded as bogus. That said, I realize his detractors don&#39;t really care so much about &#8220;vetting&#8221; as they do about &#8220;smearing&#8221;.</p>
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