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	<title>Comments on: Tin Foil Hat in Crazytown: Why the Bailout Failed</title>
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		<title>By: DaveA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure I buy the purposely scrapped the bill tag too.  She seems more likely to be guilty of poor statesmanship.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for myself, I am becoming more concerned.  I am contracting at a steel company right now, and water cooler rumor has it that a competitor has had to resort to charging customers 50% up front on orders because their revolving credit to buy from suppliers and offer terms is gone.   I heard the same type of thing is thing for some franchise owners where in they might have issues making payroll as credit terms are drying up.  Neither of those things sounds good, since we are a very credit dependent economy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for my family?  We did a 30 year fixed mortgage and paid points to boot.  The idea was that at 4.86% with tax write offs on top, it was better to invest the rest.   The later never really materialized however,  as we are mostly tech investors and have not seen much appealing over the last year or so and have been sitting mostly in cash.  That may turn out to be the a very lucky move, given the fire sale prices that seem to be approaching in the market. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Similarly my wife and I are largely in liquid cash and have been for about a year now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure I buy the purposely scrapped the bill tag too.  She seems more likely to be guilty of poor statesmanship.</p>
<p>As for myself, I am becoming more concerned.  I am contracting at a steel company right now, and water cooler rumor has it that a competitor has had to resort to charging customers 50% up front on orders because their revolving credit to buy from suppliers and offer terms is gone.   I heard the same type of thing is thing for some franchise owners where in they might have issues making payroll as credit terms are drying up.  Neither of those things sounds good, since we are a very credit dependent economy.</p>
<p>As for my family?  We did a 30 year fixed mortgage and paid points to boot.  The idea was that at 4.86% with tax write offs on top, it was better to invest the rest.   The later never really materialized however,  as we are mostly tech investors and have not seen much appealing over the last year or so and have been sitting mostly in cash.  That may turn out to be the a very lucky move, given the fire sale prices that seem to be approaching in the market. </p>
<p> Similarly my wife and I are largely in liquid cash and have been for about a year now.</p>
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		<title>By: Stocks and Bonds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tin Foil Hat in Crazytown: Why the Bailout Failed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stocks and Bonds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tin Foil Hat in Crazytown: Why the Bailout Failed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The WHIPs didn’t have control and a bailout bill which was supposed to pass failed . Why? Allow me to toss out some breadcrumbs for the masses. Every single poll has shown that the economy, more so than any other issue, is an area where &#8230;[Continue Reading] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The WHIPs didn’t have control and a bailout bill which was supposed to pass failed . Why? Allow me to toss out some breadcrumbs for the masses. Every single poll has shown that the economy, more so than any other issue, is an area where &#8230;[Continue Reading] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NordicAngst</title>
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		<dc:creator>NordicAngst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only do I think this post is wrong, I think it&#039;s probably impossible.  Getting the entirety of the democratic house to secretretly throw their own bill?  We&#039;re talking about hundreds upon hundreds of reps and staff handling a secret that would be a political A-bomb if exposed, which it probably would.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She delivered 60% of her party on a highly controversial bailout, that&#039;s pretty darn good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only do I think this post is wrong, I think it&#39;s probably impossible.  Getting the entirety of the democratic house to secretretly throw their own bill?  We&#39;re talking about hundreds upon hundreds of reps and staff handling a secret that would be a political A-bomb if exposed, which it probably would.</p>
<p>She delivered 60% of her party on a highly controversial bailout, that&#39;s pretty darn good.</p>
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		<title>By: Bailout &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tin Foil Hat in Crazytown: Why the Bailout Failed</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23060/tin-foil-hat-in-crazytown-why-the-bailout-failed/comment-page-1/#comment-155532</link>
		<dc:creator>Bailout &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tin Foil Hat in Crazytown: Why the Bailout Failed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The “foreign policy” debate, which should have been McCain’s strong point, was dragged off into talk of the bailout and Obama did better than anyone expected in the polls after it ended. A number of conservative Republicans have been &#8230;[Continue Reading] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The “foreign policy” debate, which should have been McCain’s strong point, was dragged off into talk of the bailout and Obama did better than anyone expected in the polls after it ended. A number of conservative Republicans have been &#8230;[Continue Reading] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CStanley: &lt;i&gt;Rico, I&#039;m not sure where I read that, but if I find a source I&#039;ll come back and post it. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;Even if there wasn&#039;t such an action during today&#039;s vote, she&#039;s already as much as said that she wouldn&#039;t pass this bill without GOP support.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Honestly, are you complaining or just finding fault? Wasn&#039;t that the whole idea? It was supposed to be a bipartisan bill, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CStanley: <i>Rico, I&#39;m not sure where I read that, but if I find a source I&#39;ll come back and post it. </i></p>
<p>Please do.</p>
<p><i>Even if there wasn&#39;t such an action during today&#39;s vote, she&#39;s already as much as said that she wouldn&#39;t pass this bill without GOP support.</i></p>
<p>Honestly, are you complaining or just finding fault? Wasn&#39;t that the whole idea? It was supposed to be a bipartisan bill, right?</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rico, I&#039;m not sure where I read that, but if I find a source I&#039;ll come back and post it. Even if there wasn&#039;t such an action during today&#039;s vote, she&#039;s already as much as said that she wouldn&#039;t pass this bill without GOP support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rico, I&#39;m not sure where I read that, but if I find a source I&#39;ll come back and post it. Even if there wasn&#39;t such an action during today&#39;s vote, she&#39;s already as much as said that she wouldn&#39;t pass this bill without GOP support.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23060/tin-foil-hat-in-crazytown-why-the-bailout-failed/comment-page-1/#comment-155486</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greendreams, Galbraith&#039;s plan sounds intriguing. But I have to say, I find trying to truly evaluate any of the alternatives proposed is a bit above my pay grade. I wonder how true that is of the congresscritters we have invested with the responsibility to make decisions. I suspect it&#039;s quite true in most cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greendreams, Galbraith&#39;s plan sounds intriguing. But I have to say, I find trying to truly evaluate any of the alternatives proposed is a bit above my pay grade. I wonder how true that is of the congresscritters we have invested with the responsibility to make decisions. I suspect it&#39;s quite true in most cases.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, pacatrue, I think that may be the genius of his suggestion. If we alleviate the panic and insure bigger depositors, we head off a run on the bank, so to speak, and with the higher insurance for depositors, money can flow into those banks specifically to make loans. And alleviating the credit crunch could reassure Wall St enough to return some confidence in the market. In any case, it makes more sense than the &quot;cash for trash&quot; idea of just turning taxpayer money over to failing banks. He makes a great point that many of these institutions are not insolvent. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, I have accounts at WaMu. FDIC kept me from pulling my funds out when I first heard they were in trouble. It can do the same for bigger account holders if the insurance limit is raised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, pacatrue, I think that may be the genius of his suggestion. If we alleviate the panic and insure bigger depositors, we head off a run on the bank, so to speak, and with the higher insurance for depositors, money can flow into those banks specifically to make loans. And alleviating the credit crunch could reassure Wall St enough to return some confidence in the market. In any case, it makes more sense than the &#8220;cash for trash&#8221; idea of just turning taxpayer money over to failing banks. He makes a great point that many of these institutions are not insolvent. </p>
<p>BTW, I have accounts at WaMu. FDIC kept me from pulling my funds out when I first heard they were in trouble. It can do the same for bigger account holders if the insurance limit is raised.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greendreams, I can&#039;t truly assess Gilbraith&#039;s ideas, but the one thing that seemed to be missing is the issue of the liquidity crunch. If we can&#039;t keep enough capital flowing, a lot of businesses with real assets will go down, making the problem worse than it needs to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greendreams, I can&#39;t truly assess Gilbraith&#39;s ideas, but the one thing that seemed to be missing is the issue of the liquidity crunch. If we can&#39;t keep enough capital flowing, a lot of businesses with real assets will go down, making the problem worse than it needs to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CStanley, who is reporting that Pelosi instructed her whip to release the Dems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CStanley, who is reporting that Pelosi instructed her whip to release the Dems?</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/23060/tin-foil-hat-in-crazytown-why-the-bailout-failed/comment-page-1/#comment-155478</link>
		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlowe, I&#039;m quite concerned. I have absolutely no debt at all, so that&#039;s great. And I have one of those 3-6 month emergency funds. But after that, things dry up pretty fast. I would have had about 10 years into my 30 year fixed mortgage at this point, but we sold the house so that I could pursue an advanced degree. If we lose our jobs, as a renter, I&#039;ll be out of a place to live. I might have a backup in that my parents own their residences, and I assume they&#039;d let us go there instead of move on the street, but for someone who moved out of the parent&#039;s house 1 month after graduating college, it&#039;s rather humiliating to have to move back 15 years later should the economy collapse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, my main personal worry is that, because I am a renter, I have to keep income rather high. There&#039;s no just having enough to eat here. Incidentally, my 1br apt in Hawaii is more than the old mortgage in Tennessee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlowe, I&#39;m quite concerned. I have absolutely no debt at all, so that&#39;s great. And I have one of those 3-6 month emergency funds. But after that, things dry up pretty fast. I would have had about 10 years into my 30 year fixed mortgage at this point, but we sold the house so that I could pursue an advanced degree. If we lose our jobs, as a renter, I&#39;ll be out of a place to live. I might have a backup in that my parents own their residences, and I assume they&#39;d let us go there instead of move on the street, but for someone who moved out of the parent&#39;s house 1 month after graduating college, it&#39;s rather humiliating to have to move back 15 years later should the economy collapse.</p>
<p>Anyway, my main personal worry is that, because I am a renter, I have to keep income rather high. There&#39;s no just having enough to eat here. Incidentally, my 1br apt in Hawaii is more than the old mortgage in Tennessee.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GreenDreams, you just scared the hell out of me.  What if we don&#039;t really need to do anything near what we&#039;re being told is required to save the cheerleader and save the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GreenDreams, you just scared the hell out of me.  What if we don&#39;t really need to do anything near what we&#39;re being told is required to save the cheerleader and save the world?</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at Galbraith&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/24/AR2008092403033.html&quot;&gt;plan&lt;/a&gt;. Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at Galbraith&#39;s <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/24/AR2008092403033.html">plan</a>. Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rambie said:  &quot;Agreed, that&#039;s why I said, &quot;I hope I can weather the storm ahead as I hope everyone who was mature in their personal finances will.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope you will, Rambie.  The personal aspect of your comment was interesting, as most folks here seem to debate the political aspects.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To be honest, today I am sort of anxious for the first time, even though I am pretty liquid.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wonder how other people here actually feel about this crisis.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you concerned about your own situation?  Are you getting more or less anxious?&lt;br&gt;Or does it all seem an abstraction occuring at a level where people talk in terms of billions of dollars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rambie said:  &#8220;Agreed, that&#39;s why I said, &#8220;I hope I can weather the storm ahead as I hope everyone who was mature in their personal finances will.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope you will, Rambie.  The personal aspect of your comment was interesting, as most folks here seem to debate the political aspects.</p>
<p>To be honest, today I am sort of anxious for the first time, even though I am pretty liquid.  </p>
<p>I wonder how other people here actually feel about this crisis.  </p>
<p>Are you concerned about your own situation?  Are you getting more or less anxious?<br />Or does it all seem an abstraction occuring at a level where people talk in terms of billions of dollars?</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CStanley, your version is pretty plausible, actually.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;::shudder::</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CStanley, your version is pretty plausible, actually.</p>
<p>::shudder::</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently the republicans aren&#039;t satisfied with the horrible legacy they&#039;ve created this century and have to make it even worse. Party first. Conscience nonexistent. Country hosed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the republicans aren&#39;t satisfied with the horrible legacy they&#39;ve created this century and have to make it even worse. Party first. Conscience nonexistent. Country hosed.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t go as far as you in ascribing what would really be pure evil to Nancy, but I wonder if Marlowe had it right here:&lt;br&gt;. . .perhaps she intends a TOTALLY Democratic bill, that will fulfill all the Democrats wishes and none of the Republicans . . . funding ACORN to the Day of Judgement, that sort of thing. . . and dare Bush to veto it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because reportedly Nancy instructed her whip to basically release the Dems- which is obviously a choice to let the GOP own the defeat of this bill. Why do that unless her intention is to go back to the plan without the concessions that were made to get GOP on board (esp, adding the ACORN slush fund back in.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IOW, my theory is that when they saw that they weren&#039;t going to get enough GOP votes, her calculation was that she isn&#039;t going to make her vulnerable members take ownership of a potentially toxic bill unless there was something in it for them. And as an added bonus, by letting this one go down and subsequently letting the Dow take a nosedive, she&#039;ll get to ratchet up the partisan blame game even more. And of course Boehner was foolish enough to giftwrap it for her and Barney when he said that they&#039;d probably have gotten enough GOP votes if Nancy hadn&#039;t hurt everyone&#039;s feelings.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, we&#039;ll find out soon enough when we see the next move on the chessboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#39;t go as far as you in ascribing what would really be pure evil to Nancy, but I wonder if Marlowe had it right here:<br />. . .perhaps she intends a TOTALLY Democratic bill, that will fulfill all the Democrats wishes and none of the Republicans . . . funding ACORN to the Day of Judgement, that sort of thing. . . and dare Bush to veto it.</p>
<p>Because reportedly Nancy instructed her whip to basically release the Dems- which is obviously a choice to let the GOP own the defeat of this bill. Why do that unless her intention is to go back to the plan without the concessions that were made to get GOP on board (esp, adding the ACORN slush fund back in.)</p>
<p>IOW, my theory is that when they saw that they weren&#39;t going to get enough GOP votes, her calculation was that she isn&#39;t going to make her vulnerable members take ownership of a potentially toxic bill unless there was something in it for them. And as an added bonus, by letting this one go down and subsequently letting the Dow take a nosedive, she&#39;ll get to ratchet up the partisan blame game even more. And of course Boehner was foolish enough to giftwrap it for her and Barney when he said that they&#39;d probably have gotten enough GOP votes if Nancy hadn&#39;t hurt everyone&#39;s feelings.</p>
<p>Anyway, we&#39;ll find out soon enough when we see the next move on the chessboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Rambie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rambie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS: &quot;Now the Dems and activists want these people&#039;s unpleasant consequences to be removed. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thought it was the Bush Administration that got this ball rolling with a 3-page outline.  Look DLS, there is plenty of us all over the political spectrum that do not like this bailout idea there is no reason to throw insults around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS: &#8220;Now the Dems and activists want these people&#39;s unpleasant consequences to be removed. &#8220;</p>
<p>I thought it was the Bush Administration that got this ball rolling with a 3-page outline.  Look DLS, there is plenty of us all over the political spectrum that do not like this bailout idea there is no reason to throw insults around.</p>
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		<title>By: Rambie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rambie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pacatrue: The problem, Rambie, is that a lot of people on 30 year fixed mortgages who managed their money relatively well are likely to be in trouble now as well...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Agreed, that&#039;s why I said, &quot;I hope I can weather the storm ahead as I hope everyone who was mature in their personal finances will.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pacatrue: The problem, Rambie, is that a lot of people on 30 year fixed mortgages who managed their money relatively well are likely to be in trouble now as well&#8230;</p>
<p>Agreed, that&#39;s why I said, &#8220;I hope I can weather the storm ahead as I hope everyone who was mature in their personal finances will.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rambie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rambie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*** You&#039;re not losing _your_ home, but you are going to be losing money: you will be &quot;asked&quot; to &quot;contribute&quot; to the kinds of &quot;investments&quot; that &quot;we&quot; &quot;need&quot; to make to keep the idiots in their homes they should be renting or vacating. ***&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DLS, I can&#039;t tell if you&#039;re disagreeing with me or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*** You&#39;re not losing _your_ home, but you are going to be losing money: you will be &#8220;asked&#8221; to &#8220;contribute&#8221; to the kinds of &#8220;investments&#8221; that &#8220;we&#8221; &#8220;need&#8221; to make to keep the idiots in their homes they should be renting or vacating. ***</p>
<p>DLS, I can&#39;t tell if you&#39;re disagreeing with me or not.</p>
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