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	<title>Comments on: Mr. Obama and the &#8220;Ghost of Charisma Past&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: MJDaniels53</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22870/mr-obama-and-the-ghost-of-charisma-past/comment-page-1/#comment-153876</link>
		<dc:creator>MJDaniels53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T:&lt;br&gt;When Obama has actually &quot;brushed things off,&quot; I think that he has shown some of the engagement that humanizes him. And there is a sense in which Obama must be cool, as Jackie Robinson had to be cool when he broke baseball&#039;s color barrier in 1947. I get that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I also think that he comes from that &quot;Memories of Camelot&quot; place in the Democratic Party. I believe that he is disposed to a coolness that is not passivity so much as it is detachment. That proved, ultimately, fatal to John Kerry&#039;s candidacy in 2004. It won&#039;t be to Obama&#039;s in 2008, in my judgment, primarily because the electoral universe, for obvious reasons, is tilted to the Democratic nominee. But dispassionate detachment can, as Kennedy&#039;s real record prior to November 22, 1963, demonstrates, be harmful to a President&#039;s agenda.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;pwt: As to your statement &quot;let&#039;s drop the racism crap.&quot; Real numbers: At least 6% of the voting public says that they will not vote for Obama under any circumstances because he is black. My experience in life leads me to believe that there may be more voters who have the same sentiment, but won&#039;t admit it to a pollster. If as few as 6% vote for McCain because Obama is black, it can have a decisive effect on the election. Racism IS crap, but it is real and it will, to some extent, be a factor in this election...and I think that must be acknowledged whatever one&#039;s partisan affiliation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T:<br />When Obama has actually &#8220;brushed things off,&#8221; I think that he has shown some of the engagement that humanizes him. And there is a sense in which Obama must be cool, as Jackie Robinson had to be cool when he broke baseball&#39;s color barrier in 1947. I get that.</p>
<p>But I also think that he comes from that &#8220;Memories of Camelot&#8221; place in the Democratic Party. I believe that he is disposed to a coolness that is not passivity so much as it is detachment. That proved, ultimately, fatal to John Kerry&#39;s candidacy in 2004. It won&#39;t be to Obama&#39;s in 2008, in my judgment, primarily because the electoral universe, for obvious reasons, is tilted to the Democratic nominee. But dispassionate detachment can, as Kennedy&#39;s real record prior to November 22, 1963, demonstrates, be harmful to a President&#39;s agenda.</p>
<p>pwt: As to your statement &#8220;let&#39;s drop the racism crap.&#8221; Real numbers: At least 6% of the voting public says that they will not vote for Obama under any circumstances because he is black. My experience in life leads me to believe that there may be more voters who have the same sentiment, but won&#39;t admit it to a pollster. If as few as 6% vote for McCain because Obama is black, it can have a decisive effect on the election. Racism IS crap, but it is real and it will, to some extent, be a factor in this election&#8230;and I think that must be acknowledged whatever one&#39;s partisan affiliation.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: T_Steel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22870/mr-obama-and-the-ghost-of-charisma-past/comment-page-1/#comment-153847</link>
		<dc:creator>T_Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PWT said: &quot;And, let&#039;s drop the &#039;racism&#039; crap. Mr. Obama is about as threatening as Pee Wee Herman. A dorky, skinny man who has never really displayed any anger or any backbone is not threatening to anybody. It is an excuse, not a cause.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LOL!  And your right.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PWT also said: &quot;In fact, considering you post, it would seem to make Mr. Obama too passive to possibly be President in these &#039;unstable times&#039; - I think that if we are experienceing stable times, we are dead.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t think brushing things off and being coolly detached means that you are too passive.  It could very well mean you don&#039;t let too much emotional reaction affect you so you can better assess situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PWT said: &#8220;And, let&#39;s drop the &#39;racism&#39; crap. Mr. Obama is about as threatening as Pee Wee Herman. A dorky, skinny man who has never really displayed any anger or any backbone is not threatening to anybody. It is an excuse, not a cause.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL!  And your right.</p>
<p>PWT also said: &#8220;In fact, considering you post, it would seem to make Mr. Obama too passive to possibly be President in these &#39;unstable times&#39; &#8211; I think that if we are experienceing stable times, we are dead.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think brushing things off and being coolly detached means that you are too passive.  It could very well mean you don&#39;t let too much emotional reaction affect you so you can better assess situations.</p>
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		<title>By: PWT</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22870/mr-obama-and-the-ghost-of-charisma-past/comment-page-1/#comment-153797</link>
		<dc:creator>PWT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We need a real person. My guess is that if Obama can step out and be his real self, he can reconnect with those of his supporters who have become lukewarm and ne can have an historic presidency.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How are we supposed to discern what the &#039;real self&#039; of Mr. Obama is?  If he has not yet displayed his &#039;real self&#039;, what has he been displaying?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, let&#039;s drop the &#039;racism&#039; crap.  Mr. Obama is about as threatening as Pee Wee Herman.  A dorky, skinny man who has never really displayed any anger or any backbone is not threatening to anybody.   It is an excuse, not a cause.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;T-Steel:  hopefullly he will be able to confront problems if he is elected President, rather than just brushing them off.  In fact, considering you post, it would seem to make Mr. Obama to passive to possibly be President in these &#039;unstable time&#039; - I think that if we are experienceing stable times, we are dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We need a real person. My guess is that if Obama can step out and be his real self, he can reconnect with those of his supporters who have become lukewarm and ne can have an historic presidency.</i></p>
<p>How are we supposed to discern what the &#39;real self&#39; of Mr. Obama is?  If he has not yet displayed his &#39;real self&#39;, what has he been displaying?  </p>
<p>And, let&#39;s drop the &#39;racism&#39; crap.  Mr. Obama is about as threatening as Pee Wee Herman.  A dorky, skinny man who has never really displayed any anger or any backbone is not threatening to anybody.   It is an excuse, not a cause.</p>
<p>T-Steel:  hopefullly he will be able to confront problems if he is elected President, rather than just brushing them off.  In fact, considering you post, it would seem to make Mr. Obama to passive to possibly be President in these &#39;unstable time&#39; &#8211; I think that if we are experienceing stable times, we are dead.</p>
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		<title>By: MJDaniels53</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22870/mr-obama-and-the-ghost-of-charisma-past/comment-page-1/#comment-153767</link>
		<dc:creator>MJDaniels53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m as opposed to nepotism as anyone, but he still wrote a good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m as opposed to nepotism as anyone, but he still wrote a good post.</p>
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		<title>By: T_Steel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22870/mr-obama-and-the-ghost-of-charisma-past/comment-page-1/#comment-153766</link>
		<dc:creator>T_Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live around a family and extended family of Obama supporters.  All black (with the exception of my white grandmother).  And Obama hasn&#039;t lost them.  In fact, they feel more strongly in him.  The common refrain from them:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;He takes their (McCain campaign) best shots and just brushes them off.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They adore the &quot;brush off&quot; and the cool detachment.  They feel it&#039;s that ability to brush it off and be coolly detached is why he would be a great president: he will give things careful consideration and we won&#039;t be brash.  Personally I feel that those are good qualities in these unstable times.  But I don&#039;t begrudge Senator McCain.  His more &quot;go get &#039;em&quot; approach resonates with me as well.  And I see that appeal as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live around a family and extended family of Obama supporters.  All black (with the exception of my white grandmother).  And Obama hasn&#39;t lost them.  In fact, they feel more strongly in him.  The common refrain from them:</p>
<p><strong>He takes their (McCain campaign) best shots and just brushes them off.</strong></p>
<p>They adore the &#8220;brush off&#8221; and the cool detachment.  They feel it&#39;s that ability to brush it off and be coolly detached is why he would be a great president: he will give things careful consideration and we won&#39;t be brash.  Personally I feel that those are good qualities in these unstable times.  But I don&#39;t begrudge Senator McCain.  His more &#8220;go get &#39;em&#8221; approach resonates with me as well.  And I see that appeal as well.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22870/mr-obama-and-the-ghost-of-charisma-past/comment-page-1/#comment-153744</link>
		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe john althouse cohen can write a thoughtful piece on grown men who use their mother&#039;s maiden names as their middle names to get more readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe john althouse cohen can write a thoughtful piece on grown men who use their mother&#39;s maiden names as their middle names to get more readers.</p>
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