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		<title>By: Rate Barack Obama: Senator and Presidential Candidate. &#124; Rate Politicians: World Leaders, The US Congress, The US President, The US Vice President and more...</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22859/obama-and-democratic-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-162450</link>
		<dc:creator>Rate Barack Obama: Senator and Presidential Candidate. &#124; Rate Politicians: World Leaders, The US Congress, The US President, The US Vice President and more...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama and Democratic Racism [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22859/obama-and-democratic-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-153814</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlowe- He was burning with ambition-- ( I hate to say this but I always thought it was possible that he and J Edgar might have had a hand in JFK&#039;s assasination) yet the presidency destroyed him. He couldn&#039;t sleep because he&#039;d hear Vietnam protesters outside the WH chanting &quot;Hey, Hey, LBJ, How many kids did you kill today?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have  a mixed opinion of him- he was tough and ruthless, and plunged the country into the tragic war in Vietnam based on fake evidence, yet he had compassion and humanity for those who were on the bottom rung  in our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlowe- He was burning with ambition&#8211; ( I hate to say this but I always thought it was possible that he and J Edgar might have had a hand in JFK&#39;s assasination) yet the presidency destroyed him. He couldn&#39;t sleep because he&#39;d hear Vietnam protesters outside the WH chanting &#8220;Hey, Hey, LBJ, How many kids did you kill today?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have  a mixed opinion of him- he was tough and ruthless, and plunged the country into the tragic war in Vietnam based on fake evidence, yet he had compassion and humanity for those who were on the bottom rung  in our society.</p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice: Obama and Democratic Racism &#171; Stop Dog Whistle Racism!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Moderate Voice: Obama and Democratic Racism &#171; Stop Dog Whistle Racism!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama and Democratic Racism Last week, Joe Gandelman wrote an interesting piece regarding the AP – Yahoo News poll taken last week that addressed racial discrimination on the part of some Democrats in their decision whether to vote for Barack Obama. My question to the pundits is the following: did you really need a poll to tell you that some white Democrats are still racists? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Obama and Democratic Racism Last week, Joe Gandelman wrote an interesting piece regarding the AP – Yahoo News poll taken last week that addressed racial discrimination on the part of some Democrats in their decision whether to vote for Barack Obama. My question to the pundits is the following: did you really need a poll to tell you that some white Democrats are still racists? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nepr</title>
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		<dc:creator>nepr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...  Why DID LBJ decide to dismantle the New Deal coalition?  I guess it&#039;s possible to push the same question back to JFK, but, still...  Almost 50 years later, the Democrats are still trying to get it back together.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Leaving the &quot;political ploy&quot; idea aside (I assume LBJ could count), when I try to come up with a reason, words like &quot;decency&quot; and &quot;integrity&quot; and &quot;compassion&quot; come to mind, but, of course, they have no place in politics.  Frankly, I&#039;m stumped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;  Why DID LBJ decide to dismantle the New Deal coalition?  I guess it&#39;s possible to push the same question back to JFK, but, still&#8230;  Almost 50 years later, the Democrats are still trying to get it back together.</p>
<p>Leaving the &#8220;political ploy&#8221; idea aside (I assume LBJ could count), when I try to come up with a reason, words like &#8220;decency&#8221; and &#8220;integrity&#8221; and &#8220;compassion&#8221; come to mind, but, of course, they have no place in politics.  Frankly, I&#39;m stumped.</p>
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		<title>By: lgrf4evr</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, LBJ might had been a warmonger with his history with vietnam but i still respect him for his accomplishments in the civil rights era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, LBJ might had been a warmonger with his history with vietnam but i still respect him for his accomplishments in the civil rights era.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22859/obama-and-democratic-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-153708</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent comment, Kritt!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LBJ has long been one of my heroes.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Crazier than a bag full of ferrets, to be sure.  Totally corrupt as well.  Yet, he was the true heir to FDR, and somehow empathized with the downtrodden in ways no other modern president has. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;His Great Society rejuvenated faded New Deal liberalism . . . and without his deal-making (yes, with northern Republicans too) the civil rights legislation would never have been past. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, tragically, he immersed himself in Vietnam . . . and, as we have heard in his tape-recorded phone calls, believing the war unwinnable as early as 1964.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But he was the last great Democratic titan.  The US would have been a poorer place today without him.  (I have always appreciated LBJ&#039;s wackiness . . . dictating memos while sitting on the toilet . . . and growing his hair like a hippie after leaving the White House. )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent comment, Kritt!</p>
<p>LBJ has long been one of my heroes.  </p>
<p>Crazier than a bag full of ferrets, to be sure.  Totally corrupt as well.  Yet, he was the true heir to FDR, and somehow empathized with the downtrodden in ways no other modern president has. </p>
<p>His Great Society rejuvenated faded New Deal liberalism . . . and without his deal-making (yes, with northern Republicans too) the civil rights legislation would never have been past. </p>
<p>Yes, tragically, he immersed himself in Vietnam . . . and, as we have heard in his tape-recorded phone calls, believing the war unwinnable as early as 1964.</p>
<p>But he was the last great Democratic titan.  The US would have been a poorer place today without him.  (I have always appreciated LBJ&#39;s wackiness . . . dictating memos while sitting on the toilet . . . and growing his hair like a hippie after leaving the White House. )</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank-you Kritt for completing that particular history lesson. This is an important enough era in our country&#039;s progress to warrant accuracy, and is important enough to understand what the predominant lesson was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-you Kritt for completing that particular history lesson. This is an important enough era in our country&#39;s progress to warrant accuracy, and is important enough to understand what the predominant lesson was.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is a twisted post. You left out the part where LBJ did as promised-- fulfilled the Kennedy legacy on civil rights. In 1965 Democrats were dominant in the WH and the Congress,Johnson had won in 1964 in a landslide, so it would have been totally unnecessary for Johnson to do this or the War on Poverty.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Johnson alienated every ally he had in the Democratic party in the South in order to get the legislation passed. In 1968, Nixon had no compunction about capitalizing on the  dissatisfaction of the segregationists to win.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, even if desegregation  and the voting rights act WAS accomplished for a cynical motive, it needed to be done.  Blacks were living a second class existence as maids and porters. Those who got too &quot;uppity&quot; in the South ran the risk of lynching. The perpetrators usually got off scot-free.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Without Johnson we would have ended up like South Africa- an international embarassment  with a white ruling society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is a twisted post. You left out the part where LBJ did as promised&#8211; fulfilled the Kennedy legacy on civil rights. In 1965 Democrats were dominant in the WH and the Congress,Johnson had won in 1964 in a landslide, so it would have been totally unnecessary for Johnson to do this or the War on Poverty.</p>
<p>Johnson alienated every ally he had in the Democratic party in the South in order to get the legislation passed. In 1968, Nixon had no compunction about capitalizing on the  dissatisfaction of the segregationists to win.</p>
<p>And, even if desegregation  and the voting rights act WAS accomplished for a cynical motive, it needed to be done.  Blacks were living a second class existence as maids and porters. Those who got too &#8220;uppity&#8221; in the South ran the risk of lynching. The perpetrators usually got off scot-free.</p>
<p> Without Johnson we would have ended up like South Africa- an international embarassment  with a white ruling society.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we&#039;re on the subject, let&#039;s keep going with the American history lesson a bit further. When those southern segregationist states in the south realized they were no longer going to be represented by the mainstream democrats, they began the process of becoming republicans. Now we can see they are &quot;red states&quot;. Sure, rascism exists among republicans and democrats, but if we are going to get a history lesson here, let&#039;s make sure we get the whole story eh? Also I think that (exceptions to the trend excluded) most folks who are objective and knowledeable about the subject would admit there generally exists more bigoted attitudes among republicans than democrats. Maybe this is in the process of changing, but I&#039;d say it has a long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we&#39;re on the subject, let&#39;s keep going with the American history lesson a bit further. When those southern segregationist states in the south realized they were no longer going to be represented by the mainstream democrats, they began the process of becoming republicans. Now we can see they are &#8220;red states&#8221;. Sure, rascism exists among republicans and democrats, but if we are going to get a history lesson here, let&#39;s make sure we get the whole story eh? Also I think that (exceptions to the trend excluded) most folks who are objective and knowledeable about the subject would admit there generally exists more bigoted attitudes among republicans than democrats. Maybe this is in the process of changing, but I&#39;d say it has a long way to go.</p>
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