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Debate grows over the Bush administration Wall Street meltdown bailout, a sharply divided electorate seems more divided, a crucial debate grows closer and Palinmania breaks out in Florida. Our linkfest guide takes you to weblogs of varying opinions as the news cycles get more dramatic in financial and political terms.

WHY SOME PEOPLE HATE “THE ELITES”: It’s because the best and the brightest sometimes turn out to be neither, in practical terms..

THE CANDIDATES AND THE CREDIT CRUNCH: Are both uninspiring? Dick Polman thinks McCain in particular showed himself to be outside his “comfort zone” last week.

PALIN MANIA BREAKS OUT IN FIERCELY-CONTESTED FLORIDA where she drew 60,000.

BUT ANTI-PALIN MANIA LIVES TOO as some anti-Palin ads are reportedly traced to a P.R. firm with links to Barack Obama and some conservatives are livid.

THE BAILOUT, POLITICAL RESPONSIBILITY AND POLITICAL NEED is the focus of a MUST READ post by Dave Schuler. Here is just a small part of it:

As a brief digression I’ve seen quite a bit of chortling about the prospect of a conservative taking steps as apparently socialistic as the Bush Administration seems to be proposing. If Republicans are under the misapprehension that GWB is a fiscal conservative they’re as deluded as some Democrats were who thought that Bill Clinton was a liberal. What’s the evidence that President Bush is a fiscal conservative? The quotas on steel imports? The multiple tax rebates? The unbalanced budgets?

Anyone who opposes taking the dramatic move proposed needs to make their case either on the grounds that the action is not needed or that it will be ineffective. There’s actually a case that the action is unnecessary. As the WSJ pointed out the other day, the crisis in the financial sector really hasn’t translated into problems in the general economy. Anybody who makes that case needs a pretty dispositive explanation for why that’s the case and why it’s not just a matter of time.

There’s a lot more so read it in its entirety.

SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE TOOK A SWIPE at Sen. John McCain for his ads in a skit that comedy writer/Senate candidate Al Franken helped write. Details and video HERE.

WHO IS WISER? BARACK OBAMA OR SARAH PALIN?
The view at Pajamas Media.

McCAIN HAS A NEW OBAMA ATTACK STRATEGY according to Marc Ambinder:

We’ve heard for months that Barack Obama was an empty-handed, idealistic neophyte. Now, John McCain’s election strategists in Arlington want to transform him into a scheming insider-urban-machine politician. Beginning with a television “ad” that questions Obama’s relationship to machine fixtures and continuing with surrogate attacks and research hits, the goal is to undermine Obama’s reformer credentials during the economic crisis and to situate his ambition, putting him alongside corrupt Chicago politicians. The McCain campaign claims the ad will run nationally, but they’ve scheduled a conference call with Steve Schmidt and Rick Davis to pound home the point.

Yes, and McCain’s point in interviews is that only he puts the country first when he takes a position and makes thoughtful decisions (such as when McCain selected Sarah Palin to be in next-in-line to oversee foreign policy and the economy as Vice President should he should die in office…presumably…). Yet, perhaps in 21st-Century-America voters are prepared to buy the argument that only ONE candidate in a given race has ambitions and the other operates purely from an altruistic plane.

ANOTHER CONTROVERSY BREWING regarding McCain and an adviser who got big bucks (from Fannie and Freddie) for access to the Senator some years ago? You decide…

IN THE POLITICAL RACE there is the race race….

BUT BOTH CANDIDATES face some interesting obstacles and be pioneers, of sorts…

BARACK OBAMA AND SOCIAL SECURITY: Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey sees several things that raise questions…

  • superdestroyer
    The conventional wisdom is that the candidate who is more likable or more comfortable acting around ordinary people will win the election for president. Reagan and Clinton being the two best examples.

    I think both parties have screwed up by nominating candidate that people would not want to have a drink with, who would look awkward at a high school football game, and who most people would not want to be around. Now the problem is that people have to choose one of the two.

    The Democrats should be winning easily except that Senator Obama does not seem suited for one-on-one exchanges with middle class Americans and that the Democratic party, believing it should be winning in a cake walk, wants to hold onto its core groups instead of actually being for change.
  • bacalove
    "In 2007, Wall Street's five biggest firms-- Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, and Morgan Stanley - paid a record $39 billion in bonuses to themselves." ABC's Political Punch -- I say no Bail Out!

    AND

    Senator John McCain’s campaign manager, Rick Davis, was paid more than $30,000 a month for five years as president of an advocacy group set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/2...

    More McCain Hypocrisy! I now understand why McCain who has been Chairman of the Commerce Committee for years says he knows very little about the economy, the one truth he has been honest about, because it has always been about Corp. first, only and last!
  • elrod
    I think that "60,000 in The Villages" thing has been debunked. One fire marshal estimated 60,000 but everybody else around said it was more like 20,000.
  • Gichin13
    I was assuming the Palin rally was wildly inflated ... anyone have links on those numbers? That would be par for the course, here in Northern Virginia they claimed like 25k at a rally that was apparently around 8k ....
  • jwest
    bacalove,

    Read………Learn……..

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarch...
  • daveinboca
    elrod, you say "everybody else." Please elaborate.

    I can recall recently when the WaPo said a "fire marshal" said the crowd was smaller than advertised in Fairfax, VA when Palin spoke. You are as wrong about this as you are about Republican Jews in Palm Beach County!

    She's getting bigger crowds than Biden by a factor of three or four, and that's a fact.
  • Silhouette
    Congress instead of adjourning this week to campaign, should campaign in the most effective way possible right from Capitol Hill. If they pass a "Trickle-Up" economic plan..filibustering until the GOP submits if necessary...they could not only accomplish more than they ever could on the campaign trail, they would force the GOP into an untenable position, since the GOP stands to gain the most by going out and lying more to the American public about how great their tycoon-bailout plan is.

    They could answer the GOP's predictable cries of "hurry, America is in trouble!!" to "Why do you want to rush and make a mistake? Do you want to hurt american working poor?" The GOP has its work cut out for it trying to sell the "rush" mentality to a voting public that is sick of having duct tape put on their needs and longterm wellbeing..

    If the democrats succeed in keeping the GOP in this headlock until they allow a rescue of the worker, instead of Wallstreet screwups, the paydirt will be massive votes this Fall for themselves as incumbants, newly aspiring democratic candidates and the presidental nominee as well. They could literally kill like 20 birds with one stone by staying in session about this budget thing to be settled sanely. And who would benefit? Everyone but the GOP. Too bad.

    The GOP wants the rush, the panic because they know what they're asking for is horse-apples. They know if the people have long enough to think about the ramifications of bailing out Wallstreet at the expense of Mainstreet (oh, and how) they will balk and they won't get to recover their precious assets they lost when their gambles failed.

    The democratic party is in a unique position right now where they have the GOP by the shorthairs. If the GOP insists on sticking it to the common man, they'll lose the election. Basically, if the dems play their cards right, they can get so much relief for their constituents that campaigning will be a joke...they won't even need to.

    Stay....stay in session...linger...hang out...discuss...strategize...trickle up...paydirt.
  • daveinboca
    Actually, Gichin, someone did "due diligence" on this Fairfax Cty crowd afterwards and came up with "at least 15,000" in Fairfax. A "fire marshal" was quoted at 8K for Fairfax & a "fire marshal" was quoted at 60K at The Villages. So you choose your "fire marshal" and I'll choose mine.
  • Gichin13
    I live in Fairfax. There is no fire marshall quoted on record backing up the 23k estimate in Fairfax. McCain's campaign claimed they had gotten the number from the fire marshall's office. The fire marshall's office indicated that not only had they not provided a crowd estimate, but that they do not do such crowd estimates:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070...

    What your post should say is that Tucker Bounds says a Fire Marshall said 23k, but the Fire Marshall's office actually denies every saying such a thing.
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