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	<title>Comments on: Ted Stevens&#8217; Trial Set to Kick Off in Washington</title>
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		<title>By: Uncle Teddy&#8217;s trial gets under way &#124; Juneau Smog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Teddy&#8217;s trial gets under way &#124; Juneau Smog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Palin is McCain&#039;s life preserver currently, just as it has been she who has put missing life in his campaign as soon as her choice as VP was announced to the public.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look at two things McCain has done:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) Health care -- not only would McCain tax health care benefits. Not only is a tax credit a long-tiresome gimmick that nobody likes or respects.  But McCain&#039;s plan &quot;allows&quot; people in one state to buy health insurance plans in other states if the people want that.  Now consider this not from the deeper meaning of it as regards federalism, but just the practical and economic implications.  First of all, who says the lower-cost-plan states will agree to having people from higher-cost states elsewhere swamp them, or allow anyone out of state to buy plans at all?  The feds don&#039;t have the actual right to order the states to accept the outsiders.  Of course, these days the feds can do whatever they want, so they would doubtless order all states to accept anyone, no matter from where in this country.  But as the Iowa state insurance commissioner noted, if someone in Iowa buys a plan in, say, New York or California, and has problems with payment, or doctors in Iowa won&#039;t accept the payment schedule, there&#039;s nothing the Iowa commissioner can do.  And with all that extra paperwork, does McCain&#039;s plan include more money that ought go to the states to pay for this?  Or is this yet (I suspect) another federal unfunded mandate?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) The Democrats have been often horrible in office.  One of the worst is from a notorious family -- Andrew Cuomo is his name.  He did a lousy and questionable job in the federal government.  (Many know his father, who was sought in 1992 as the Dem nominee, and made a whiny-loser lousy speech at a Dem convention once that to this day the liberal media label one of the best speeches, if not the best, of all time.)  One of the presidential candidates, in discussing the current economic concerns and poor behavior by government and the financial industry, has said (in addition to wanting to fire SEC commissioner Christopher Cox) that he would like to see, of all people, Andrew Cuomo(!) as a new SEC commissioner!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Believe it or not, that candidate who said that is none other than John McCain.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[burying head in hands]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Palin is McCain&#39;s life preserver currently, just as it has been she who has put missing life in his campaign as soon as her choice as VP was announced to the public.</p>
<p>Look at two things McCain has done:</p>
<p>1) Health care &#8212; not only would McCain tax health care benefits. Not only is a tax credit a long-tiresome gimmick that nobody likes or respects.  But McCain&#39;s plan &#8220;allows&#8221; people in one state to buy health insurance plans in other states if the people want that.  Now consider this not from the deeper meaning of it as regards federalism, but just the practical and economic implications.  First of all, who says the lower-cost-plan states will agree to having people from higher-cost states elsewhere swamp them, or allow anyone out of state to buy plans at all?  The feds don&#39;t have the actual right to order the states to accept the outsiders.  Of course, these days the feds can do whatever they want, so they would doubtless order all states to accept anyone, no matter from where in this country.  But as the Iowa state insurance commissioner noted, if someone in Iowa buys a plan in, say, New York or California, and has problems with payment, or doctors in Iowa won&#39;t accept the payment schedule, there&#39;s nothing the Iowa commissioner can do.  And with all that extra paperwork, does McCain&#39;s plan include more money that ought go to the states to pay for this?  Or is this yet (I suspect) another federal unfunded mandate?</p>
<p>2) The Democrats have been often horrible in office.  One of the worst is from a notorious family &#8212; Andrew Cuomo is his name.  He did a lousy and questionable job in the federal government.  (Many know his father, who was sought in 1992 as the Dem nominee, and made a whiny-loser lousy speech at a Dem convention once that to this day the liberal media label one of the best speeches, if not the best, of all time.)  One of the presidential candidates, in discussing the current economic concerns and poor behavior by government and the financial industry, has said (in addition to wanting to fire SEC commissioner Christopher Cox) that he would like to see, of all people, Andrew Cuomo(!) as a new SEC commissioner!</p>
<p>Believe it or not, that candidate who said that is none other than John McCain.</p>
<p>[burying head in hands]</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlowcan, while the democrats aren&#039;t innocent when it comes to spin and mischaracterization, they haven&#039;t made quite the science (or perhaps it&#039;s an art) of smear the way the republicans have, nor have they been as gung-ho about encouraging polarization among the electorate. This unbalanced state of campaigning (over many years now) is what informed my comment. I believe any legitimate study fact-checking this belief would support this contention, and I also believe all this throwing to the winds of decent standards has harmed the country greatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlowcan, while the democrats aren&#39;t innocent when it comes to spin and mischaracterization, they haven&#39;t made quite the science (or perhaps it&#39;s an art) of smear the way the republicans have, nor have they been as gung-ho about encouraging polarization among the electorate. This unbalanced state of campaigning (over many years now) is what informed my comment. I believe any legitimate study fact-checking this belief would support this contention, and I also believe all this throwing to the winds of decent standards has harmed the country greatly.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlow- I think I used a bad choice of words. People do care tremendously&lt;br&gt;about these issues. But the latest economic meltdown has thrown a monkey&lt;br&gt;wrench into the campaign promises of both camps. No one really knows what&lt;br&gt;the outcome of this mess is going to be, but, its scary to think that we are&lt;br&gt;on the verge of giving more power to an executive branch that did nothing to&lt;br&gt;avert the crisis in the first place.  (tho I do respect Paulson and&lt;br&gt;Gates the most out of the Bush cabinet)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama should take the populist route-- and play off McCain&#039;s gaffes on the&lt;br&gt;economy and portray him as too removed from everyday life to feel regular&lt;br&gt;folks pain..  ie  if he loses a house it won&#039;t matter because he doesn&#039;t&lt;br&gt;even know how many he owns. If he has to sleep in his car he can choose from&lt;br&gt;13 of them.* *</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlow- I think I used a bad choice of words. People do care tremendously<br />about these issues. But the latest economic meltdown has thrown a monkey<br />wrench into the campaign promises of both camps. No one really knows what<br />the outcome of this mess is going to be, but, its scary to think that we are<br />on the verge of giving more power to an executive branch that did nothing to<br />avert the crisis in the first place.  (tho I do respect Paulson and<br />Gates the most out of the Bush cabinet)</p>
<p>Obama should take the populist route&#8211; and play off McCain&#39;s gaffes on the<br />economy and portray him as too removed from everyday life to feel regular<br />folks pain..  ie  if he loses a house it won&#39;t matter because he doesn&#39;t<br />even know how many he owns. If he has to sleep in his car he can choose from<br />13 of them.* *</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can&#039;t get a normal omnibus spending bill through without four months of wrangling and internal civil war.   The idea that we could authorize 3/4 of a trillion dollars in under a week, with virtually no debate so that it goes through &quot;cleanly&quot; is just mind boggling. I&#039;m not saying that some action may not be required and justified, but a blank check of that size getting rushed through this fast just seems impossible in our system of government. (Or at least it should be.) If we&#039;re lucky, calmer heads will prevail and everyone will take a step back to breath a bit before signing way the farm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can&#39;t get a normal omnibus spending bill through without four months of wrangling and internal civil war.   The idea that we could authorize 3/4 of a trillion dollars in under a week, with virtually no debate so that it goes through &#8220;cleanly&#8221; is just mind boggling. I&#39;m not saying that some action may not be required and justified, but a blank check of that size getting rushed through this fast just seems impossible in our system of government. (Or at least it should be.) If we&#39;re lucky, calmer heads will prevail and everyone will take a step back to breath a bit before signing way the farm.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kritt . . . I really hope you are totally wrong . . . and people do care about issues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After a lot of reading, I am very concerned about this bail-out package.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The scale of it . . . and the speed people want to rush it through . . . is very disturbing. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As you say, it seems not to hold anyone responsible.  I am thinking a lot of folks are concerned about this. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think this issue overwhelming benefits Obama (not so much Congressional Democrats though).  He seems serious and intelligent and someone who thinks about issues, instead of simply having advisors.   Hahahaha....and I am not even an Obama supporter.  Yes, the economy can be a transformative issue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kritt . . . I really hope you are totally wrong . . . and people do care about issues.</p>
<p>After a lot of reading, I am very concerned about this bail-out package.  </p>
<p>The scale of it . . . and the speed people want to rush it through . . . is very disturbing. </p>
<p>As you say, it seems not to hold anyone responsible.  I am thinking a lot of folks are concerned about this. </p>
<p>I think this issue overwhelming benefits Obama (not so much Congressional Democrats though).  He seems serious and intelligent and someone who thinks about issues, instead of simply having advisors.   Hahahaha&#8230;.and I am not even an Obama supporter.  Yes, the economy can be a transformative issue!</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlow- No one really cares about the issues right now-- after the bailout there won&#039;t be any money for healthcare, the environment, renewable energy, defense   etc This is the only issue that matters. All the crap we&#039;ve been listening to from both camps has become increasingly irrelevant. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All we should be asking is who can get us out from under this-- do we want the executives and investors  to swim and US taxpayers to sink?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlow- No one really cares about the issues right now&#8211; after the bailout there won&#39;t be any money for healthcare, the environment, renewable energy, defense   etc This is the only issue that matters. All the crap we&#39;ve been listening to from both camps has become increasingly irrelevant. </p>
<p>All we should be asking is who can get us out from under this&#8211; do we want the executives and investors  to swim and US taxpayers to sink?</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kritt...nothing to do with Stevens really,  just a reply to JSpencer about &quot;issues&quot; vs. &quot;spin&quot;  (the post being tangentially about Palin).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am fascinated by this, as it seems to me Obama is FAR ahead of McCain on issues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Health care: Obama +1 McCain 0&lt;br&gt;Economy: Obama +1 McCain 0&lt;br&gt;yada yada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kritt&#8230;nothing to do with Stevens really,  just a reply to JSpencer about &#8220;issues&#8221; vs. &#8220;spin&#8221;  (the post being tangentially about Palin).</p>
<p>I am fascinated by this, as it seems to me Obama is FAR ahead of McCain on issues.</p>
<p>Health care: Obama +1 McCain 0<br />Economy: Obama +1 McCain 0<br />yada yada</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlow- what does your comment have to do with Ted Stevens? I&#039;m wondering how many others who are corrupt out there are NOT getting prosecuted because of the US attorneys who were fired by the Bush administration, or the fact that the Abramoff investigation has slowed to a halt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlow- what does your comment have to do with Ted Stevens? I&#39;m wondering how many others who are corrupt out there are NOT getting prosecuted because of the US attorneys who were fired by the Bush administration, or the fact that the Abramoff investigation has slowed to a halt.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSpencer said: &quot;It&#039;s all about culture wars, personalities, spin and power!&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That seems to be true . . . certainly by the Democrats . . . as evidenced from the fine detective work over at Jawa, tracking down the PR firm (Winner &amp; Associates), with direct connections to Axelrod, Obama&#039;s own Karl Rove . . . that was responsible for producing &quot;viral, grassroots&quot; videos promoting lies about Palin (e.g., that she was an Alaskan separtist . . . a smear even the New York TImes has retracted).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Check it out: &lt;a href=&quot;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php&quot;&gt;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, no sooner had Jawa posted its findings then a sweeping series of deletions hit YouTube etc. as Winner &amp; Associates sought to cover their tracks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is, of course, classic Karl Rove (see his use of cutouts to smear McCain in SC in 2000).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Deniability must be preserved to protect Obama.  The cutout accounts are being eliminated.  Democrats can count on their friends in the media not to investigate or report on this in any way.  After all, there are potential FEC violations here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, focusing on the issues, indeed JSpencer.  &lt;br&gt;Karl Rove would be, grudgingly, admiring of these Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JSpencer said: &#8220;It&#39;s all about culture wars, personalities, spin and power!&#8221;</p>
<p>That seems to be true . . . certainly by the Democrats . . . as evidenced from the fine detective work over at Jawa, tracking down the PR firm (Winner &#038; Associates), with direct connections to Axelrod, Obama&#39;s own Karl Rove . . . that was responsible for producing &#8220;viral, grassroots&#8221; videos promoting lies about Palin (e.g., that she was an Alaskan separtist . . . a smear even the New York TImes has retracted).</p>
<p>Check it out: <a href="http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php">http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php</a></p>
<p>Of course, no sooner had Jawa posted its findings then a sweeping series of deletions hit YouTube etc. as Winner &#038; Associates sought to cover their tracks.</p>
<p>This is, of course, classic Karl Rove (see his use of cutouts to smear McCain in SC in 2000).</p>
<p>Deniability must be preserved to protect Obama.  The cutout accounts are being eliminated.  Democrats can count on their friends in the media not to investigate or report on this in any way.  After all, there are potential FEC violations here.</p>
<p>Yes, focusing on the issues, indeed JSpencer.  <br />Karl Rove would be, grudgingly, admiring of these Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Stevens&#8217; Trial To Kick Off, What Of Cold Cash Jefferson? : Stop The ACLU</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Stevens&#8217; Trial To Kick Off, What Of Cold Cash Jefferson? : Stop The ACLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on September 22, 2008  Via The Moderate (snicker) Voice, we learn through Bloomberg U.S. Senator Ted Stevens&#8217;s bid for a seventh term may be decided [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ted Stevens&#8217; Trial To Kick Off, What Of Cold Cash Jefferson? &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove&#160;&#8212;&#160;Barracuda Patrol!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Stevens&#8217; Trial To Kick Off, What Of Cold Cash Jefferson? &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove&#160;&#8212;&#160;Barracuda Patrol!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Moderate (snicker) Voice, we learn through Bloomberg U.S. Senator Ted Stevens&#8217;s bid for a seventh term may be decided [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin shows that image again -- &quot;Filmed in Supermarionation&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey don&#039;t be a party pooper, let&#039;s get with the gameplan! Issues are irrelevant, truth is irrelevant, integrity is irrelevant. It&#039;s all about culture wars, personalities, spin and power! OK, on with the reality show...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey don&#39;t be a party pooper, let&#39;s get with the gameplan! Issues are irrelevant, truth is irrelevant, integrity is irrelevant. It&#39;s all about culture wars, personalities, spin and power! OK, on with the reality show&#8230;</p>
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