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		<title>By: Lee_Indiana</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22665/a-deeper-background-franci-havemeister/comment-page-1/#comment-153463</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee_Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the information is from a digest of articles by the Ankroage Daily News that I found here:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/matsu/mat_maid/&quot;&gt;http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/matsu/mat_maid/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Thanks, Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the information is from a digest of articles by the Ankroage Daily News that I found here:  <a href="http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/matsu/mat_maid/">http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/matsu/mat_maid/</a></p>
<p>Thanks, Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Nickthaniel1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nickthaniel1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well gee, do you think it might help to find out what the job actually entails? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Two of the major job responsibilities are product marketing and land sales.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sounds like a trusted friend with experience in Real Estate would be a perfect fit.  But don&#039;t let the facts get in the way of your ranting!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, and Rev. Wright</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well gee, do you think it might help to find out what the job actually entails? </p>
<p>Two of the major job responsibilities are product marketing and land sales.</p>
<p>Sounds like a trusted friend with experience in Real Estate would be a perfect fit.  But don&#39;t let the facts get in the way of your ranting!  </p>
<p>-Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, and Rev. Wright</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22665/a-deeper-background-franci-havemeister/comment-page-1/#comment-146002</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, here&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?_r=1&amp;ref=politics&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;NYT piece&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz,</p>
<p>Well, here&#39;s the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?_r=1&#038;ref=politics&#038;oref=slogin">NYT piece</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22665/a-deeper-background-franci-havemeister/comment-page-1/#comment-146003</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, here&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?_r=1&amp;ref=politics&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;NYT piece&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz,</p>
<p>Well, here&#39;s the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?_r=1&#038;ref=politics&#038;oref=slogin">NYT piece</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22665/a-deeper-background-franci-havemeister/comment-page-1/#comment-145995</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand far more than you will ever be capable of, SD. Your current condition is called projection, attempting to paint me as being as willfully ignorant as you obviously are. The article I cited proved rather conclusively that the positions she held in Chicago city government are far from her only experience in government and business. In addition the position she held with the city government was with two different administrations. Thirdly, you have absolutely &lt;b&gt;no proof&lt;/b&gt; beyond your own raging prejudices that Jarret was a &quot;fixer&quot;. Your claims that everyone in Chicago government is corrupt is even more hopelessly ignorant than someone who would believe there is no such thing as government corruption in many places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand far more than you will ever be capable of, SD. Your current condition is called projection, attempting to paint me as being as willfully ignorant as you obviously are. The article I cited proved rather conclusively that the positions she held in Chicago city government are far from her only experience in government and business. In addition the position she held with the city government was with two different administrations. Thirdly, you have absolutely <b>no proof</b> beyond your own raging prejudices that Jarret was a &#8220;fixer&#8221;. Your claims that everyone in Chicago government is corrupt is even more hopelessly ignorant than someone who would believe there is no such thing as government corruption in many places.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22665/a-deeper-background-franci-havemeister/comment-page-1/#comment-145999</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand far more than you will ever be capable of, SD. Your current condition is called projection, attempting to paint me as being as willfully ignorant as you obviously are. The article I cited proved rather conclusively that the positions she held in Chicago city government are far from her only experience in government and business. In addition the position she held with the city government was with two different administrations. Thirdly, you have absolutely &lt;b&gt;no proof&lt;/b&gt; beyond your own raging prejudices that Jarret was a &quot;fixer&quot;. Your claims that everyone in Chicago government is corrupt is even more hopelessly ignorant than someone who would believe there is no such thing as government corruption in many places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand far more than you will ever be capable of, SD. Your current condition is called projection, attempting to paint me as being as willfully ignorant as you obviously are. The article I cited proved rather conclusively that the positions she held in Chicago city government are far from her only experience in government and business. In addition the position she held with the city government was with two different administrations. Thirdly, you have absolutely <b>no proof</b> beyond your own raging prejudices that Jarret was a &#8220;fixer&#8221;. Your claims that everyone in Chicago government is corrupt is even more hopelessly ignorant than someone who would believe there is no such thing as government corruption in many places.</p>
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		<title>By: skwowtne</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22665/a-deeper-background-franci-havemeister/comment-page-1/#comment-145989</link>
		<dc:creator>skwowtne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 04:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good reporting on one of those seems-insignificant-but-really, REALLY-isn&#039;t issues. Funny thing that when asked the definition of &quot;Bush Doctrine,&quot; she didn&#039;t merely reply &quot;the same as mine.&quot; If it looks like a pig, smells like a pig, oinks like a pig (but wears lipstick)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good reporting on one of those seems-insignificant-but-really, REALLY-isn&#39;t issues. Funny thing that when asked the definition of &#8220;Bush Doctrine,&#8221; she didn&#39;t merely reply &#8220;the same as mine.&#8221; If it looks like a pig, smells like a pig, oinks like a pig (but wears lipstick)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: skwowtne</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22665/a-deeper-background-franci-havemeister/comment-page-1/#comment-145998</link>
		<dc:creator>skwowtne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 04:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good reporting on one of those seems-insignificant-but-really, REALLY-isn&#039;t issues. Funny thing that when asked the definition of &quot;Bush Doctrine,&quot; she didn&#039;t merely reply &quot;the same as mine.&quot; If it looks like a pig, smells like a pig, oinks like a pig (but wears lipstick)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good reporting on one of those seems-insignificant-but-really, REALLY-isn&#39;t issues. Funny thing that when asked the definition of &#8220;Bush Doctrine,&#8221; she didn&#39;t merely reply &#8220;the same as mine.&#8221; If it looks like a pig, smells like a pig, oinks like a pig (but wears lipstick)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22665/a-deeper-background-franci-havemeister/comment-page-1/#comment-145988</link>
		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have a link for this information, please? My Google skills must be failing me, since I&#039;m not finding the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have a link for this information, please? My Google skills must be failing me, since I&#39;m not finding the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22665/a-deeper-background-franci-havemeister/comment-page-1/#comment-145991</link>
		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have a link for this information, please? My Google skills must be failing me, since I&#039;m not finding the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have a link for this information, please? My Google skills must be failing me, since I&#39;m not finding the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee_Indiana</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22665/a-deeper-background-franci-havemeister/comment-page-1/#comment-145980</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee_Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier this evening I Googled Franci Havemeister out of curiosity after reading about her in today’s NYT (Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes, 9/15/2008).  I found the following information mostly through Anchorage Daily News articles posted on the web before Palin’s VP nomination.  I would be interested in finding out if there is anything more of interest on the topic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Palin appointed school mate, Franci Havemeister, as the Alaska Agriculture Director.  Havemeister’s husband’s parents are dairy farmers that supplied milk to Matanuska Maid dairy in Anchorage.  Matanuska Maid had become state run entity in the 1980’s as a result of an earlier bankruptcy.  It had been losing hundreds of thousands of dollars annual when Palin became Governor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After the original Agriculture and Conservation board determined that a state infusion of $600K would be sunk in the failing entity and that the dairy should close, Palin fired and replaced the board in order to keep the dairy open.  The new board’s first act was to increase the amount paid to farmers for milk despite the fact that the entity was operating at a loss.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The new board was surprised by substantial losses (near $300,000) included by the dairy in their second month and that the $62,000 profit they had claimed in their first month were in reality just about break even (due to accounting errors).  They also determined to close the facility.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The state required a $3.35 million minimum bid for the failing entity therefore attracting no bidders.  Several members of Palin’s board then resigned in order to offer an arrangement to open a dairy cooperative in Wasilla (to include Franci Havemeister&#039;s father-in-law, Bob Havemeister) that would lease, at extremely low rates, equipment from Matanuska Maid.  A competing dairy operation, Northern Lights Dairy, was interested in the assets but did not have an opportunity to bid.   &lt;br&gt;State Division of Agriculture asset manager Ray Nix, who reports to Franci Havemeister was in charge of the sale.  The coop secured a $643,000 U.S. Department of Agriculture grant (e.g. earmark) for its start. The facilities and land of the former Matanuska Maid in Anchorage was sold at its appraised value and is now a storage facility. The coop is now operating as Matanuska Creamery&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Palin administration granted an additional $200,000 to be dispersed to dairy farms that were dumping their milk during the transition.  Upon closure, an audit shows wrongful &quot;Disbursements of just over $39,000 were made to four in-state dairy producers&quot; -- money that should have been paid to creditors.  I could not find the names of the farmers but suspect one of them is Bob Havemeister.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Franci Havemeister imposed a gag order preventing anyone other than Ray Nix from discussion the transaction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;+++&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I support local agriculture but these decisions and dealings appear to have made without transparency and give the impression of cronyism.  Palin’s administration made poor judgment and costs the tax payers a significant amount of money while Palin insider’s appear to have come out of the situation well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A governor in another state that did not have windfall oil revenue could not have gotten away with this.  Remove the oil revenue and Palin has no accomplishments and certainly no popularity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier this evening I Googled Franci Havemeister out of curiosity after reading about her in today’s NYT (Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes, 9/15/2008).  I found the following information mostly through Anchorage Daily News articles posted on the web before Palin’s VP nomination.  I would be interested in finding out if there is anything more of interest on the topic.</p>
<p>Palin appointed school mate, Franci Havemeister, as the Alaska Agriculture Director.  Havemeister’s husband’s parents are dairy farmers that supplied milk to Matanuska Maid dairy in Anchorage.  Matanuska Maid had become state run entity in the 1980’s as a result of an earlier bankruptcy.  It had been losing hundreds of thousands of dollars annual when Palin became Governor.</p>
<p>After the original Agriculture and Conservation board determined that a state infusion of $600K would be sunk in the failing entity and that the dairy should close, Palin fired and replaced the board in order to keep the dairy open.  The new board’s first act was to increase the amount paid to farmers for milk despite the fact that the entity was operating at a loss.  </p>
<p>The new board was surprised by substantial losses (near $300,000) included by the dairy in their second month and that the $62,000 profit they had claimed in their first month were in reality just about break even (due to accounting errors).  They also determined to close the facility.  </p>
<p>The state required a $3.35 million minimum bid for the failing entity therefore attracting no bidders.  Several members of Palin’s board then resigned in order to offer an arrangement to open a dairy cooperative in Wasilla (to include Franci Havemeister&#39;s father-in-law, Bob Havemeister) that would lease, at extremely low rates, equipment from Matanuska Maid.  A competing dairy operation, Northern Lights Dairy, was interested in the assets but did not have an opportunity to bid.   <br />State Division of Agriculture asset manager Ray Nix, who reports to Franci Havemeister was in charge of the sale.  The coop secured a $643,000 U.S. Department of Agriculture grant (e.g. earmark) for its start. The facilities and land of the former Matanuska Maid in Anchorage was sold at its appraised value and is now a storage facility. The coop is now operating as Matanuska Creamery</p>
<p>The Palin administration granted an additional $200,000 to be dispersed to dairy farms that were dumping their milk during the transition.  Upon closure, an audit shows wrongful &#8220;Disbursements of just over $39,000 were made to four in-state dairy producers&#8221; &#8212; money that should have been paid to creditors.  I could not find the names of the farmers but suspect one of them is Bob Havemeister.  </p>
<p>Franci Havemeister imposed a gag order preventing anyone other than Ray Nix from discussion the transaction.</p>
<p>+++</p>
<p>I support local agriculture but these decisions and dealings appear to have made without transparency and give the impression of cronyism.  Palin’s administration made poor judgment and costs the tax payers a significant amount of money while Palin insider’s appear to have come out of the situation well.</p>
<p>A governor in another state that did not have windfall oil revenue could not have gotten away with this.  Remove the oil revenue and Palin has no accomplishments and certainly no popularity.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee_Indiana</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22665/a-deeper-background-franci-havemeister/comment-page-1/#comment-145984</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee_Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier this evening I Googled Franci Havemeister out of curiosity after reading about her in today’s NYT (Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes, 9/15/2008).  I found the following information mostly through Anchorage Daily News articles posted on the web before Palin’s VP nomination.  I would be interested in finding out if there is anything more of interest on the topic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Palin appointed school mate, Franci Havemeister, as the Alaska Agriculture Director.  Havemeister’s husband’s parents are dairy farmers that supplied milk to Matanuska Maid dairy in Anchorage.  Matanuska Maid had become state run entity in the 1980’s as a result of an earlier bankruptcy.  It had been losing hundreds of thousands of dollars annual when Palin became Governor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After the original Agriculture and Conservation board determined that a state infusion of $600K would be sunk in the failing entity and that the dairy should close, Palin fired and replaced the board in order to keep the dairy open.  The new board’s first act was to increase the amount paid to farmers for milk despite the fact that the entity was operating at a loss.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The new board was surprised by substantial losses (near $300,000) included by the dairy in their second month and that the $62,000 profit they had claimed in their first month were in reality just about break even (due to accounting errors).  They also determined to close the facility.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The state required a $3.35 million minimum bid for the failing entity therefore attracting no bidders.  Several members of Palin’s board then resigned in order to offer an arrangement to open a dairy cooperative in Wasilla (to include Franci Havemeister&#039;s father-in-law, Bob Havemeister) that would lease, at extremely low rates, equipment from Matanuska Maid.  A competing dairy operation, Northern Lights Dairy, was interested in the assets but did not have an opportunity to bid.   &lt;br&gt;State Division of Agriculture asset manager Ray Nix, who reports to Franci Havemeister was in charge of the sale.  The coop secured a $643,000 U.S. Department of Agriculture grant (e.g. earmark) for its start. The facilities and land of the former Matanuska Maid in Anchorage was sold at its appraised value and is now a storage facility. The coop is now operating as Matanuska Creamery&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Palin administration granted an additional $200,000 to be dispersed to dairy farms that were dumping their milk during the transition.  Upon closure, an audit shows wrongful &quot;Disbursements of just over $39,000 were made to four in-state dairy producers&quot; -- money that should have been paid to creditors.  I could not find the names of the farmers but suspect one of them is Bob Havemeister.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Franci Havemeister imposed a gag order preventing anyone other than Ray Nix from discussion the transaction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;+++&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I support local agriculture but these decisions and dealings appear to have made without transparency and give the impression of cronyism.  Palin’s administration made poor judgment and costs the tax payers a significant amount of money while Palin insider’s appear to have come out of the situation well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A governor in another state that did not have windfall oil revenue could not have gotten away with this.  Remove the oil revenue and Palin has no accomplishments and certainly no popularity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier this evening I Googled Franci Havemeister out of curiosity after reading about her in today’s NYT (Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes, 9/15/2008).  I found the following information mostly through Anchorage Daily News articles posted on the web before Palin’s VP nomination.  I would be interested in finding out if there is anything more of interest on the topic.</p>
<p>Palin appointed school mate, Franci Havemeister, as the Alaska Agriculture Director.  Havemeister’s husband’s parents are dairy farmers that supplied milk to Matanuska Maid dairy in Anchorage.  Matanuska Maid had become state run entity in the 1980’s as a result of an earlier bankruptcy.  It had been losing hundreds of thousands of dollars annual when Palin became Governor.</p>
<p>After the original Agriculture and Conservation board determined that a state infusion of $600K would be sunk in the failing entity and that the dairy should close, Palin fired and replaced the board in order to keep the dairy open.  The new board’s first act was to increase the amount paid to farmers for milk despite the fact that the entity was operating at a loss.  </p>
<p>The new board was surprised by substantial losses (near $300,000) included by the dairy in their second month and that the $62,000 profit they had claimed in their first month were in reality just about break even (due to accounting errors).  They also determined to close the facility.  </p>
<p>The state required a $3.35 million minimum bid for the failing entity therefore attracting no bidders.  Several members of Palin’s board then resigned in order to offer an arrangement to open a dairy cooperative in Wasilla (to include Franci Havemeister&#39;s father-in-law, Bob Havemeister) that would lease, at extremely low rates, equipment from Matanuska Maid.  A competing dairy operation, Northern Lights Dairy, was interested in the assets but did not have an opportunity to bid.   <br />State Division of Agriculture asset manager Ray Nix, who reports to Franci Havemeister was in charge of the sale.  The coop secured a $643,000 U.S. Department of Agriculture grant (e.g. earmark) for its start. The facilities and land of the former Matanuska Maid in Anchorage was sold at its appraised value and is now a storage facility. The coop is now operating as Matanuska Creamery</p>
<p>The Palin administration granted an additional $200,000 to be dispersed to dairy farms that were dumping their milk during the transition.  Upon closure, an audit shows wrongful &#8220;Disbursements of just over $39,000 were made to four in-state dairy producers&#8221; &#8212; money that should have been paid to creditors.  I could not find the names of the farmers but suspect one of them is Bob Havemeister.  </p>
<p>Franci Havemeister imposed a gag order preventing anyone other than Ray Nix from discussion the transaction.</p>
<p>+++</p>
<p>I support local agriculture but these decisions and dealings appear to have made without transparency and give the impression of cronyism.  Palin’s administration made poor judgment and costs the tax payers a significant amount of money while Palin insider’s appear to have come out of the situation well.</p>
<p>A governor in another state that did not have windfall oil revenue could not have gotten away with this.  Remove the oil revenue and Palin has no accomplishments and certainly no popularity.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe the acutal word that is used in Chicago is &quot;Clout.&quot;  If you want to do business in Chicago you have to hire people like Ms. Jarret because she has everyone in City Hall on speed dial.  Chicago is a very corrupt city in a corrupt state and he is someone who is in the middle of it.  If you do not understand the word &quot;fixer&quot; that is your problem. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you have any credibility, you would be very worried about the type of people that Senator Obama is going to put into the White House.  If corruption was really important to the partisan left, they would start now to limited the amount of corruption that is going to occur once the clout types start arriving from Chicago.  However, if you are just motivated by hatred of the right, then I guess that corruption just does not matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, </p>
<p>I believe the acutal word that is used in Chicago is &#8220;Clout.&#8221;  If you want to do business in Chicago you have to hire people like Ms. Jarret because she has everyone in City Hall on speed dial.  Chicago is a very corrupt city in a corrupt state and he is someone who is in the middle of it.  If you do not understand the word &#8220;fixer&#8221; that is your problem. </p>
<p>If you have any credibility, you would be very worried about the type of people that Senator Obama is going to put into the White House.  If corruption was really important to the partisan left, they would start now to limited the amount of corruption that is going to occur once the clout types start arriving from Chicago.  However, if you are just motivated by hatred of the right, then I guess that corruption just does not matter.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe the acutal word that is used in Chicago is &quot;Clout.&quot;  If you want to do business in Chicago you have to hire people like Ms. Jarret because she has everyone in City Hall on speed dial.  Chicago is a very corrupt city in a corrupt state and he is someone who is in the middle of it.  If you do not understand the word &quot;fixer&quot; that is your problem. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you have any credibility, you would be very worried about the type of people that Senator Obama is going to put into the White House.  If corruption was really important to the partisan left, they would start now to limited the amount of corruption that is going to occur once the clout types start arriving from Chicago.  However, if you are just motivated by hatred of the right, then I guess that corruption just does not matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, </p>
<p>I believe the acutal word that is used in Chicago is &#8220;Clout.&#8221;  If you want to do business in Chicago you have to hire people like Ms. Jarret because she has everyone in City Hall on speed dial.  Chicago is a very corrupt city in a corrupt state and he is someone who is in the middle of it.  If you do not understand the word &#8220;fixer&#8221; that is your problem. </p>
<p>If you have any credibility, you would be very worried about the type of people that Senator Obama is going to put into the White House.  If corruption was really important to the partisan left, they would start now to limited the amount of corruption that is going to occur once the clout types start arriving from Chicago.  However, if you are just motivated by hatred of the right, then I guess that corruption just does not matter.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, I&#039;ve driven by fields of cows, and buy tomatoes from a local stand. Hey, I should submit my resume!</description>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, I&#039;ve driven by fields of cows, and buy tomatoes from a local stand. Hey, I should submit my resume!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, I&#39;ve driven by fields of cows, and buy tomatoes from a local stand. Hey, I should submit my resume!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.....superdestroyer is pulling a McCain. In other words, he&#039;s lying. He refers to Jarrett as a Chicago City Hall fixer. Does anyone doubt that phrasing it this way is an attempt to say that is her only political experience? Oddly enough that is not how the article describes her.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;Valerie Jarrett. Chicago businesswoman Valerie Jarrett is one of Obama&#039;s closest confidants across the spectrum of policy and politics. She is a former senior adviser to Chicago Mayor Richard Daley and &lt;b&gt;was finance chairwoman of Obama&#039;s 2004 campaign for the Senate, serving as a bridge between the private sector and Obama&#039;s political organization. She now runs the Habitat Co., a real estate development and management firm, and is the former chairwoman of the Chicago Transit Authority Board and the Chicago Stock Exchange&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jarrett, 51, got started in politics and government when she worked for Harold Washington, Chicago&#039;s first black mayor. Later, in the 1990s, as an aide to Mayor Daley, she hired a young Michelle Obama to work for the city. She remains a close friend of both Michelle and Barack, and is proud of her role as someone who will give them both her unvarnished views.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In a recent interview with National Public Radio, Jarrett said, &quot;Friends are there to tell you something that&#039;s not very popular. And I think, you know, as we see often in life, as people reach higher and higher planes, oftentimes people are a little, you know, shy.&quot; She added, &quot;So to have a friend who can say to you, you know, quite candidly what he or she thinks is probably a good thing.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jarrett could end up as a White House counselor or as chief of staff.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Emphasis mine. superdestroyer is trying to emulate McCain in terms of BS shoveled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230;..superdestroyer is pulling a McCain. In other words, he&#39;s lying. He refers to Jarrett as a Chicago City Hall fixer. Does anyone doubt that phrasing it this way is an attempt to say that is her only political experience? Oddly enough that is not how the article describes her.</p>
<blockquote><p>Valerie Jarrett. Chicago businesswoman Valerie Jarrett is one of Obama&#39;s closest confidants across the spectrum of policy and politics. She is a former senior adviser to Chicago Mayor Richard Daley and <b>was finance chairwoman of Obama&#39;s 2004 campaign for the Senate, serving as a bridge between the private sector and Obama&#39;s political organization. She now runs the Habitat Co., a real estate development and management firm, and is the former chairwoman of the Chicago Transit Authority Board and the Chicago Stock Exchange</b>.</p>
<p>Jarrett, 51, got started in politics and government when she worked for Harold Washington, Chicago&#39;s first black mayor. Later, in the 1990s, as an aide to Mayor Daley, she hired a young Michelle Obama to work for the city. She remains a close friend of both Michelle and Barack, and is proud of her role as someone who will give them both her unvarnished views.</p>
<p>In a recent interview with National Public Radio, Jarrett said, &#8220;Friends are there to tell you something that&#39;s not very popular. And I think, you know, as we see often in life, as people reach higher and higher planes, oftentimes people are a little, you know, shy.&#8221; She added, &#8220;So to have a friend who can say to you, you know, quite candidly what he or she thinks is probably a good thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jarrett could end up as a White House counselor or as chief of staff.</p></blockquote>
<p>Emphasis mine. superdestroyer is trying to emulate McCain in terms of BS shoveled.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; franci havemeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; franci havemeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/09/08/for-his-campaign-obama-has-assembled-an-eclectic-brain-trust.html?PageNr=2&quot;&gt;http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-20...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;Jarrett could end up as a White House counselor or as chief of staff.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See </p>
<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/09/08/for-his-campaign-obama-has-assembled-an-eclectic-brain-trust.html?PageNr=2"></a><a href="http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-20.." rel="nofollow">http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-20..</a>. <i>Jarrett could end up as a White House counselor or as chief of staff.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Gichin13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gichin13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is kind of card to get excited about a Palin apointtee when Senator Obama is hinting that he will make a Chicago City Hall fixer, Valerie Jarrett, his White House Chief of Staff.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Super, can you source that?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have been thinking it would most likely be Tom Daschle.  No evidence of that, just gut reaction having watched the campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is kind of card to get excited about a Palin apointtee when Senator Obama is hinting that he will make a Chicago City Hall fixer, Valerie Jarrett, his White House Chief of Staff.&#8221;</p>
<p>Super, can you source that?</p>
<p>I have been thinking it would most likely be Tom Daschle.  No evidence of that, just gut reaction having watched the campaign.</p>
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