Sil,
Gotta completely disagree with you there. I am a pure independent. I have voted both Republican and Democrat in state, local, and national elections. There was absolutely no way I would vote for Clinton.

I was a McCain fan.

I am voting for Obama absent something really surprising coming out in the debates. I think he is a uniquely gifted public servant, although his lack of experience does give me pause. What I like is his coolness under fire, especially compared to McCain who was a hot head. I like his ability to pull a divergent team together cohesively, especially compared to the complete insanity that was the Clinton campaign.

Sil,
Gotta completely disagree with you there. I am a pure independent. I have voted both Republican and Democrat in state, local, and national elections. There was absolutely no way I would vote for Clinton.

I was a McCain fan.

I am voting for Obama absent something really surprising coming out in the debates. I think he is a uniquely gifted public servant, although his lack of experience does give me pause. What I like is his coolness under fire, especially compared to McCain who was a hot head. I like his ability to pull a divergent team together cohesively, especially compared to the complete insanity that was the Clinton campaign.

I liked her too, but really was turned off by hearing again about her husband's antics (who I actually thought was a decent president outside of his personal behavior)

I liked her too, but really was turned off by hearing again about her husband's antics (who I actually thought was a decent president outside of his personal behavior)

We could've taken that one to the bank instead of the scenario we're facing now.

Again, poor strategy. Obama is not and will never be another Martin Luther King Jr.
That was just fantasy voting. And again, what comes of that collosal immaturity will have to be owned by its promoters.

We could've taken that one to the bank instead of the scenario we're facing now.

Again, poor strategy. Obama is not and will never be another Martin Luther King Jr.
That was just fantasy voting. And again, what comes of that collosal immaturity will have to be owned by its promoters.

Well, there was the little matter of Bill's quadruple bypass. That kinda put the kibosh on Kerry. Personally, I think that to the extent the Clinton's aren't seen as helping Obama to the best of their ability (and Obama loses), Hillary is toast in the future. And I think they realize that. I mean think about it: if the Clintons are perceived as coming up short on that score, Obama supporters are not likely to look very kindly on her come 2012. Also, she would no longer be looked on as “inevitable”, like she was this time around. And that would certainly open up the field. Names that come immediately to my mind are Kathleen Sebelius, Claire McCaskill, Mark Warner, and Sheldon Whitehouse. The Dems have a bunch of pretty formidable up-and-comers.

It's possible the Clintons won't be able to get their mojo working for Obama. But if they fail in that, my guess is Hillary's toast as far as her presidential aspirations are concerned.

Well, there was the little matter of Bill's quadruple bypass. That kinda put the kibosh on Kerry. Personally, I think that to the extent the Clinton's aren't seen as helping Obama to the best of their ability (and Obama loses), Hillary is toast in the future. And I think they realize that. I mean think about it: if the Clintons are perceived as coming up short on that score, Obama supporters are not likely to look very kindly on her come 2012. Also, she would no longer be looked on as “inevitable”, like she was this time around. And that would certainly open up the field. Names that come immediately to my mind are Kathleen Sebelius, Claire McCaskill, Mark Warner, and Sheldon Whitehouse. The Dems have a bunch of pretty formidable up-and-comers.

It's possible the Clintons won't be able to get their mojo working for Obama. But if they fail in that, my guess is Hillary's toast as far as her presidential aspirations are concerned.

The Democrats picked Obama fair and square, and if they don't want to lose yet another election they need to get behind their ticket. If they voted on issues they would realize that Sarah Palin is no more like Hillary Clinton than Obama is like Alan Keyes. Just because Palin is a woman doesn't mean she would be good for women- especially the working class women who supported Clinton.

The Democrats picked Obama fair and square, and if they don't want to lose yet another election they need to get behind their ticket. If they voted on issues they would realize that Sarah Palin is no more like Hillary Clinton than Obama is like Alan Keyes. Just because Palin is a woman doesn't mean she would be good for women- especially the working class women who supported Clinton.

This was a query as to what we think the Clintons are thinking..

Speculation is implied.

This was a query as to what we think the Clintons are thinking..

Speculation is implied.

So you can read the minds of the Clintons now??? There is no reason to believe there is any truth to your comment. Looks like just more (how much is left?) residual bitterness about your candidate losing the primary.

While the Clintons may be somewhat conflicted, they are also smart enough to know they have much more to gain by seeing a democrat victory this November than a defeat.

So you can read the minds of the Clintons now??? There is no reason to believe there is any truth to your comment. Looks like just more (how much is left?) residual bitterness about your candidate losing the primary.

While the Clintons may be somewhat conflicted, they are also smart enough to know they have much more to gain by seeing a democrat victory this November than a defeat.