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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22639/back-to-the-cocoon/comment-page-1/#comment-145844</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you on the first two. Novak has never been balanced--- he is an ally of the GOP . After he wrote the column leaking Plame&#039;s identity he faxed a copy to Karl Rove in the WH. He has been critical of Bush on some issues, but  was still a major media ally like Limbaugh and Hannity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on the first two. Novak has never been balanced&#8212; he is an ally of the GOP . After he wrote the column leaking Plame&#39;s identity he faxed a copy to Karl Rove in the WH. He has been critical of Bush on some issues, but  was still a major media ally like Limbaugh and Hannity.</p>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22639/back-to-the-cocoon/comment-page-1/#comment-145841</link>
		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kritt&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;David Ignatius, David Brooks, a few others I could mention.   None of the recent editorial writers on this site, which has obvious laryngitis---on the right.   Bob Novak has been demonized, but is pretty balanced.</description>
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<p>David Ignatius, David Brooks, a few others I could mention.   None of the recent editorial writers on this site, which has obvious laryngitis&#8212;on the right.   Bob Novak has been demonized, but is pretty balanced.</p>
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		<title>By: Manchester2</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22639/back-to-the-cocoon/comment-page-1/#comment-145839</link>
		<dc:creator>Manchester2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elrod, the Washington Post (hardly a Sean Hannity conservative publication) came to Palin&#039;s defence:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26687065/&quot;&gt;read more here&lt;/A&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As the Washington Post points out, there are many versions of the Bush Doctrine, and her request to Gibson to clarify was understandable. As I&#039;ve said before, that part of the three-part interview was the weakest. The interview on-the-whole was stronger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elrod, the Washington Post (hardly a Sean Hannity conservative publication) came to Palin&#39;s defence:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26687065/">read more here</a></p>
<p>As the Washington Post points out, there are many versions of the Bush Doctrine, and her request to Gibson to clarify was understandable. As I&#39;ve said before, that part of the three-part interview was the weakest. The interview on-the-whole was stronger.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22639/back-to-the-cocoon/comment-page-1/#comment-145838</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daveinboca- who in your opinion is a moderate? Rush Limbaugh? Bill O&#039; Reilly? Bob Novak??&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, is anyone who disagrees with your pov delusional?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daveinboca- who in your opinion is a moderate? Rush Limbaugh? Bill O&#39; Reilly? Bob Novak??</p>
<p>Also, is anyone who disagrees with your pov delusional?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_P</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22639/back-to-the-cocoon/comment-page-1/#comment-144070</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike_P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeeze.  Discus must be on the blink - been having issues with it tonight.  Sorry for the double post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeeze.  Discus must be on the blink &#8211; been having issues with it tonight.  Sorry for the double post!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daveinboca - Google &quot;Bozo the Clown.&quot;  Lot of references!  Though he was, certainly, an unserious clown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daveinboca &#8211; Google &#8220;Bozo the Clown.&#8221;  Lot of references!  Though he was, certainly, an unserious clown.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_P</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22639/back-to-the-cocoon/comment-page-1/#comment-144037</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike_P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daveinboca, Google &quot;Bozo.&quot;  Lot of references, though he is (was) indeed, a clown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daveinboca, Google &#8220;Bozo.&#8221;  Lot of references, though he is (was) indeed, a clown.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s straightforward if you count answering in mindless talking points as being straightforward. Did you hear her response to the Pakistan question? She punted and talked about Afghanistan and how we should apply the lessons of Iraq.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s not a coherent response, even if she manages not to stutter. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sarah Palin has a degree in sports journalism, and was a sports anchor. She is prepared to read and perhaps memorize a quick script.  Congrats.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She&#039;s over her head when it comes to giving actual answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#39;s straightforward if you count answering in mindless talking points as being straightforward. Did you hear her response to the Pakistan question? She punted and talked about Afghanistan and how we should apply the lessons of Iraq.</p>
<p>That&#39;s not a coherent response, even if she manages not to stutter. </p>
<p>Sarah Palin has a degree in sports journalism, and was a sports anchor. She is prepared to read and perhaps memorize a quick script.  Congrats.</p>
<p>She&#39;s over her head when it comes to giving actual answers.</p>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22639/back-to-the-cocoon/comment-page-1/#comment-142977</link>
		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Even for Fox News, Hannity is the biggest clown.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is actually deliriously delusional----if Hannity is a &quot;clown,&quot; why does Obama keep referring to him.   No one takes a  clown seriously enough to refer to him.  E.g.,  O&#039;Reilly has never referred to Keith Olberboy, as KO is a clown---even if Elrod doesn&#039;t know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Even for Fox News, Hannity is the biggest clown.</i></p>
<p>This is actually deliriously delusional&#8212;-if Hannity is a &#8220;clown,&#8221; why does Obama keep referring to him.   No one takes a  clown seriously enough to refer to him.  E.g.,  O&#39;Reilly has never referred to Keith Olberboy, as KO is a clown&#8212;even if Elrod doesn&#39;t know it.</p>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s actually more straightforward as Obama, who hems and haws and is clearly not a good interview....     I watched BHO on O&#039;Reilly &amp; Sarah on ABC &amp; I&#039;ll give the nod to Sarah by a nose.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Elrod can be as dismissive and condescending as he likes.....     The consensus out there even from the more rabid bomb-throwers in the MSM &amp; blogosphere is that she did well for a first timer.   Taylor Marsh even gave her a pass.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Elrod&#039;s delusional side is continuing to assert itself.   If he is a &quot;moderate,&quot; Biden is a rock star!   Better get Hillary onto the ticket, because Sarah isn&#039;t going to fade or implode.   I think Obama himself has a better chance of choking big time than Sarah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#39;s actually more straightforward as Obama, who hems and haws and is clearly not a good interview&#8230;.     I watched BHO on O&#39;Reilly &#038; Sarah on ABC &#038; I&#39;ll give the nod to Sarah by a nose.    </p>
<p>Elrod can be as dismissive and condescending as he likes&#8230;..     The consensus out there even from the more rabid bomb-throwers in the MSM &#038; blogosphere is that she did well for a first timer.   Taylor Marsh even gave her a pass.</p>
<p>Elrod&#39;s delusional side is continuing to assert itself.   If he is a &#8220;moderate,&#8221; Biden is a rock star!   Better get Hillary onto the ticket, because Sarah isn&#39;t going to fade or implode.   I think Obama himself has a better chance of choking big time than Sarah.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NSS document from the White House itself, rico?!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not worthy; I&#039;m not worthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NSS document from the White House itself, rico?!</p>
<p>I&#39;m not worthy; I&#39;m not worthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22639/back-to-the-cocoon/comment-page-1/#comment-142201</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it may be time for everyone to re-read the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss/2002/index.html&quot;&gt;National Security Strategy document&lt;/a&gt; in which the Bush Doctrine is codified. Some of it is not controversial at all. But some of it is. We&#039;re not talking preemptive strikes against imminent dangers here, we&#039;re talking &lt;i&gt;preventive&lt;/i&gt; actions against anyone who we deem &lt;i&gt;may&lt;/i&gt; develop into an imminent threat sometime in the future. &lt;i&gt;That&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; what is different about the Bush Doctrine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it may be time for everyone to re-read the <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss/2002/index.html">National Security Strategy document</a> in which the Bush Doctrine is codified. Some of it is not controversial at all. But some of it is. We&#39;re not talking preemptive strikes against imminent dangers here, we&#39;re talking <i>preventive</i> actions against anyone who we deem <i>may</i> develop into an imminent threat sometime in the future. <i>That&#39;s</i> what is different about the Bush Doctrine.</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, thanks for referee&#039;ing, pac.</description>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jwest: &lt;i&gt;You get the prize for digging up the most obscure article from the most un-read person on the planet.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You crack me up. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Apart from that something just occurred to me that&#039;s right up you&#039;re alley, jwest -- &lt;i&gt;any talk of cocoons is&lt;b&gt; AGEIST!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt; Sure, Elrod was talking about Palin&#039;s reluctance with getting interviewed and hardly mentioned McCain at all, but his &lt;i&gt;real, though veiled, intent is clear&lt;/i&gt; -- he was saying McCain was TOO OLD &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoon_(film)&quot;&gt; -- presuming extraterrestrials intervene.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clearly Elrod was trying to put lipstick on a moth (metaphorically speaking).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jwest: <i>You get the prize for digging up the most obscure article from the most un-read person on the planet.</i></p>
<p>You crack me up. </p>
<p>Apart from that something just occurred to me that&#39;s right up you&#39;re alley, jwest &#8212; <i>any talk of cocoons is<b> AGEIST!</b></i><i> Sure, Elrod was talking about Palin&#39;s reluctance with getting interviewed and hardly mentioned McCain at all, but his </i><i>real, though veiled, intent is clear</i> &#8212; he was saying McCain was TOO OLD <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoon_(film)"> &#8212; presuming extraterrestrials intervene.</a></p>
<p>Clearly Elrod was trying to put lipstick on a moth (metaphorically speaking).</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22639/back-to-the-cocoon/comment-page-1/#comment-142109</link>
		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/obama-clinton-w.html&quot;&gt;Here is the abcnews article/blog&lt;/a&gt; where Obama and &quot;Bush doctrine&quot; occur together that casualobserver is likely referring to. I got the link from RedState. Unfortunately, while ABC puts &quot;Bush doctrine&quot; in quotes, as if it is ummm a quote, they never give a sentence from Obama using it. Instead he refers to the Bush administration policy. So Obama may have defined the term &quot;Bush doctrine&quot; as not speaking with hostile leaders or he may not have. Remains unclear. If anyone has a better link, please provide it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the general point, as I said above for Palin, all these quotes need to be taken in context. Palin&#039;s problem isn&#039;t exactly that she didn&#039;t know the term, but that her not knowing the term is about the only thing we know about her foreign policy knowledge right now, since she has no long record on these matters and is just now speaking to people about it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, casualobserver, to your most recent comment, as much as I hate it, the impact of this is going to be one of perception and feel. Most Americans have no idea that the Bush Doctrine is anything in particular. If they see Palin&#039;s interview and get the impression that I just read on Red State, which is that she answered a difficult question about an obscure wonkish term confidently, then the issue vanishes by Sunday afternoon. If they look at the interview and see someone who looks uncomfortable and frustrated for not knowing something she should know, then it will have a minor impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/obama-clinton-w.html">Here is the abcnews article/blog</a> where Obama and &#8220;Bush doctrine&#8221; occur together that casualobserver is likely referring to. I got the link from RedState. Unfortunately, while ABC puts &#8220;Bush doctrine&#8221; in quotes, as if it is ummm a quote, they never give a sentence from Obama using it. Instead he refers to the Bush administration policy. So Obama may have defined the term &#8220;Bush doctrine&#8221; as not speaking with hostile leaders or he may not have. Remains unclear. If anyone has a better link, please provide it.</p>
<p>As for the general point, as I said above for Palin, all these quotes need to be taken in context. Palin&#39;s problem isn&#39;t exactly that she didn&#39;t know the term, but that her not knowing the term is about the only thing we know about her foreign policy knowledge right now, since she has no long record on these matters and is just now speaking to people about it.</p>
<p>Anyway, casualobserver, to your most recent comment, as much as I hate it, the impact of this is going to be one of perception and feel. Most Americans have no idea that the Bush Doctrine is anything in particular. If they see Palin&#39;s interview and get the impression that I just read on Red State, which is that she answered a difficult question about an obscure wonkish term confidently, then the issue vanishes by Sunday afternoon. If they look at the interview and see someone who looks uncomfortable and frustrated for not knowing something she should know, then it will have a minor impact.</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News Flash, merely, Bush isn&#039;t on the ballot.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;News Flash, merely, the point is that despite Professor Elrod&#039;s insistence that Gibson&#039;s definition is what any &quot;intelligent&quot; person would answer, the fact is there has been an evolving definition of it ever since Krauthammer coined the term....and he said that again today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Palin&#039;s response bears a striking similarity to that offered by Charles Gibson himself..........&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Gibson and his colleagues have been all over the map in defining the Bush Doctrine over the last seven years. In 2001, Gibson himself defined it as “a promise that all terrorists organizations with global reach will be found, stopped and defeated.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But when Palin tried to give a similar definition on Thursday, Gibson corrected her.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation,” Palin said in her first interview since being nominated as the GOP’s vice presidential candidate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gibson countered: “The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News Flash, merely, Bush isn&#39;t on the ballot.</p>
<p>News Flash, merely, the point is that despite Professor Elrod&#39;s insistence that Gibson&#39;s definition is what any &#8220;intelligent&#8221; person would answer, the fact is there has been an evolving definition of it ever since Krauthammer coined the term&#8230;.and he said that again today.</p>
<p>Palin&#39;s response bears a striking similarity to that offered by Charles Gibson himself&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Gibson and his colleagues have been all over the map in defining the Bush Doctrine over the last seven years. In 2001, Gibson himself defined it as “a promise that all terrorists organizations with global reach will be found, stopped and defeated.”</p>
<p>But when Palin tried to give a similar definition on Thursday, Gibson corrected her.</p>
<p>“I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation,” Palin said in her first interview since being nominated as the GOP’s vice presidential candidate.</p>
<p>Gibson countered: “The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us.”</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have the most realistic assessment, pac, so good for you. If scoring wonk points decided Presidential elections, Al Gore would be now thinking how to spend his Presidential retirement allowance and not GWB.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If in a couple of days or so, if you can show me that this interview had any impact on the overall electorate&#039;s opinion of things, I will make a $500 donation to the ASPCA in honor of your avatar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have the most realistic assessment, pac, so good for you. If scoring wonk points decided Presidential elections, Al Gore would be now thinking how to spend his Presidential retirement allowance and not GWB.</p>
<p>If in a couple of days or so, if you can show me that this interview had any impact on the overall electorate&#39;s opinion of things, I will make a $500 donation to the ASPCA in honor of your avatar.</p>
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		<title>By: merelymyopinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>merelymyopinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama CORRECTLY described that. It has been a major element in the Bush Doctrine. Does this ring a bell for you?...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;==========&lt;br&gt;BUSH - 5/22/2008&lt;br&gt;“Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: “Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.” &lt;br&gt;==========&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, News Flash, casualobserver-- in July, Bush did &quot;the mother of all policy flip-flops&quot; on that. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=15&amp;entry_id=28398&quot;&gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/deta...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama CORRECTLY described that. It has been a major element in the Bush Doctrine. Does this ring a bell for you?&#8230;</p>
<p>==========<br />BUSH &#8211; 5/22/2008<br />“Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along.</p>
<p>“We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: “Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.” <br />==========</p>
<p>And, News Flash, casualobserver&#8211; in July, Bush did &#8220;the mother of all policy flip-flops&#8221; on that. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=15&#038;entry_id=28398">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/deta&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22639/back-to-the-cocoon/comment-page-1/#comment-141835</link>
		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the story is 17 hours old, so evidently the publisher of USA Today decided that even though it’s old news to TMV readers, the rest of the country might enjoy looking at it in the newspaper.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don’t worry though, only a few million people will see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the story is 17 hours old, so evidently the publisher of USA Today decided that even though it’s old news to TMV readers, the rest of the country might enjoy looking at it in the newspaper.</p>
<p>Don’t worry though, only a few million people will see it.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22639/back-to-the-cocoon/comment-page-1/#comment-141646</link>
		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amusingly, jwest, that exact article was discussed here on TMV yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amusingly, jwest, that exact article was discussed here on TMV yesterday.</p>
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