Comments on: Presidential Campaign 2008’s REAL Post Convention Knock Out Punch http://themoderatevoice.com/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:22:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mike_P http://themoderatevoice.com/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-125992 Mike_P Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:39:15 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/#comment-125992 Giordano has been absolutely spot on in analyzing the underpinnings of this election cycle since he began blogging it. He knows of what he speaks when it comes to the soft power of organization, and its effect.<br><br>While I can't agree with his praise or work with some of the more radical (and I think destructive) organizers of the 60s, that experience and the years that have followed seem to have made him singularly able to describe how Obama defeated the Clinton machine before they knew what hit them, and how he is defeating John McCain even as the day's headlines would have you believe otherwise.<br><br>Should Obama lose Giordano, I'll know he's in trouble. It hasn't happened yet. Giordano has been absolutely spot on in analyzing the underpinnings of this election cycle since he began blogging it. He knows of what he speaks when it comes to the soft power of organization, and its effect.

While I can't agree with his praise or work with some of the more radical (and I think destructive) organizers of the 60s, that experience and the years that have followed seem to have made him singularly able to describe how Obama defeated the Clinton machine before they knew what hit them, and how he is defeating John McCain even as the day's headlines would have you believe otherwise.

Should Obama lose Giordano, I'll know he's in trouble. It hasn't happened yet.

]]> By: vwcat http://themoderatevoice.com/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-124588 vwcat Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:18:20 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/#comment-124588 I keep saying this. Everyone has forgotten Iowa a year ago. Obama was down in the polls and under the radar alot. When he emerged at the JJ dinner he had built an awesome game and that is how he beat the Clinton machine.<br>I hear the McCain camp has about the same ground game as Clinton did.<br>Why do you think Obama is not worried while democrats are hand wringing over every little thing. I keep saying this. Everyone has forgotten Iowa a year ago. Obama was down in the polls and under the radar alot. When he emerged at the JJ dinner he had built an awesome game and that is how he beat the Clinton machine.
I hear the McCain camp has about the same ground game as Clinton did.
Why do you think Obama is not worried while democrats are hand wringing over every little thing.

]]> By: GreenDreams http://themoderatevoice.com/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-115185 GreenDreams Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:42:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/#comment-115185 LOL @ Dirk Pitt and NUMA. Thanks. I needed that. LOL @ Dirk Pitt and NUMA. Thanks. I needed that.

]]> By: GreenDreams http://themoderatevoice.com/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-115212 GreenDreams Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:42:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/#comment-115212 LOL @ Dirk Pitt and NUMA. Thanks. I needed that. LOL @ Dirk Pitt and NUMA. Thanks. I needed that.

]]> By: SteveK http://themoderatevoice.com/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-115184 SteveK Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:13:07 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/#comment-115184 Other / Undecided at <b>ZERO PERCENT</b>?.. Gimeabreak! <br><br><a href="http://www.pollster.com/polls/2008president/">Here's pollsters latest </a> FWIW - Pollster includes all the major polling organizations. <br><br>Read the small print in Al Giordano's article: "<i>By the way, you can adjust this map according to your own weights and measures at the Washington Post website.</i>"<br><br>The map and statistics are MADE UP... MAKE BELIEVE... A FANTASY... read NOT REAL... Zero percent undecided and you're buying into it?.. amazing! <br><br>Mr. Giordano has an agenda... Time to call in Dirk Pitt and NUMA and straighten the man out. Other / Undecided at ZERO PERCENT?.. Gimeabreak!

Here's pollsters latest FWIW – Pollster includes all the major polling organizations.

Read the small print in Al Giordano's article: “By the way, you can adjust this map according to your own weights and measures at the Washington Post website.“

The map and statistics are MADE UP… MAKE BELIEVE… A FANTASY… read NOT REAL… Zero percent undecided and you're buying into it?.. amazing!

Mr. Giordano has an agenda… Time to call in Dirk Pitt and NUMA and straighten the man out.

]]> By: SteveK http://themoderatevoice.com/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-115211 SteveK Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:13:07 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/#comment-115211 Other / Undecided at <b>ZERO PERCENT</b>?.. Gimeabreak! <br><br><a href="http://www.pollster.com/polls/2008president/">Here's pollsters latest </a> FWIW - Pollster includes all the major polling organizations. <br><br>Read the small print in Al Giordano's article: "<i>By the way, you can adjust this map according to your own weights and measures at the Washington Post website.</i>"<br><br>The map and statistics are MADE UP... MAKE BELIEVE... A FANTASY... read NOT REAL... Zero percent undecided and you're buying into it?.. amazing! <br><br>Mr. Giordano has an agenda... Time to call in Dirk Pitt and NUMA and straighten the man out. Other / Undecided at ZERO PERCENT?.. Gimeabreak!

Here's pollsters latest FWIW – Pollster includes all the major polling organizations.

Read the small print in Al Giordano's article: “By the way, you can adjust this map according to your own weights and measures at the Washington Post website.“

The map and statistics are MADE UP… MAKE BELIEVE… A FANTASY… read NOT REAL… Zero percent undecided and you're buying into it?.. amazing!

Mr. Giordano has an agenda… Time to call in Dirk Pitt and NUMA and straighten the man out.

]]> By: JSpencer http://themoderatevoice.com/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-115177 JSpencer Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:01:24 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/#comment-115177 Another great link from within that one:<br><br><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/palin_doesnt_matter_numbers_do.html">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/...</a> Another great link from within that one:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/...

]]> By: JSpencer http://themoderatevoice.com/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-115151 JSpencer Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:49:32 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/#comment-115151 Ditto what pacatrue said. Thanks for the great link Joe. Even that portion of the electorate which is passing on may be a factor in this election. I think it's well know the elderly turn out in higher numbers than youth, but perhaps the youth vote will be a significant contribution this time (for a change). And of course the black vote is expected to be higher then usual this election. Ditto what pacatrue said. Thanks for the great link Joe. Even that portion of the electorate which is passing on may be a factor in this election. I think it's well know the elderly turn out in higher numbers than youth, but perhaps the youth vote will be a significant contribution this time (for a change). And of course the black vote is expected to be higher then usual this election.

]]> By: pacatrue http://themoderatevoice.com/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-115149 pacatrue Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:20:07 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/22615/presidential-campaign-2008s-real-post-convention-knock-out-punch/#comment-115149 Terrific analysis, particularly the demographic changes as well as the nice summary, "It really is a ground game. The 2008 presidential election is about registering those voters mentioned above, and getting them out to vote. Period. End of story. Little else matters."<br><br>Makes me want to rush out and volunteer somehow. Unfortunately, I've never lived in a battleground state in my life. Always 15 points red or 15 points blue. Terrific analysis, particularly the demographic changes as well as the nice summary, “It really is a ground game. The 2008 presidential election is about registering those voters mentioned above, and getting them out to vote. Period. End of story. Little else matters.”

Makes me want to rush out and volunteer somehow. Unfortunately, I've never lived in a battleground state in my life. Always 15 points red or 15 points blue.

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