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		<title>By: undertoad</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22577/can-political-discourse-get-any-dumber/comment-page-1/#comment-130669</link>
		<dc:creator>undertoad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama didn&#039;t intend to mean it that way.  The guy has remarkable poise.  He&#039;s not going to gaffe it on something like that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, McCain&#039;s staff have their ears up for anything that can be interpreted as sexist.  And frankly, what a great strategy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They&#039;re waiting for their Mamama moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama didn&#39;t intend to mean it that way.  The guy has remarkable poise.  He&#39;s not going to gaffe it on something like that.</p>
<p>However, McCain&#39;s staff have their ears up for anything that can be interpreted as sexist.  And frankly, what a great strategy.</p>
<p>They&#39;re waiting for their Mamama moment.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22577/can-political-discourse-get-any-dumber/comment-page-1/#comment-130666</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SD,&lt;br&gt;You didn&#039;t answer the question. What did it mean when McCain used the same metaphor?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Either it&#039;s sexist in both circumstances, or it&#039;s sexist in neither. I want you on record here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD,<br />You didn&#39;t answer the question. What did it mean when McCain used the same metaphor?</p>
<p>Either it&#39;s sexist in both circumstances, or it&#39;s sexist in neither. I want you on record here.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22577/can-political-discourse-get-any-dumber/comment-page-1/#comment-130664</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChrisWWW&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Republicans should be allowed to be insulting because they tend to not follow political correctness. However, when the Democrats nominate the most politically correct candidate ever, then they should play by the rules that they have set.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Or the Democrats can shut up about hate speech or code words and start talking about issues. However, I doubt that the hypocrites in the Democrats Party want to give up on their use of hidden meanings to keep certain poitical groups in line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChrisWWW</p>
<p>Republicans should be allowed to be insulting because they tend to not follow political correctness. However, when the Democrats nominate the most politically correct candidate ever, then they should play by the rules that they have set.  </p>
<p>Or the Democrats can shut up about hate speech or code words and start talking about issues. However, I doubt that the hypocrites in the Democrats Party want to give up on their use of hidden meanings to keep certain poitical groups in line.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22577/can-political-discourse-get-any-dumber/comment-page-1/#comment-130663</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SD,&lt;br&gt;You should respond to my comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD,<br />You should respond to my comment.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22577/can-political-discourse-get-any-dumber/comment-page-1/#comment-130660</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how the party of the political correctness seems like they hate political correctness when it is applied to them. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Much like adultry hurts Repubicans much more than Democrats because it makes Repubicans look like hypocrites, the same applies to Democrats and political correctness.  Remember, under political correctness,  it is the people who are insulted who get to determine the intent of the peaker.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the Democrats do not want to be judged on their insults, then the Democrats should renounce political correctness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how the party of the political correctness seems like they hate political correctness when it is applied to them. </p>
<p>Much like adultry hurts Repubicans much more than Democrats because it makes Repubicans look like hypocrites, the same applies to Democrats and political correctness.  Remember, under political correctness,  it is the people who are insulted who get to determine the intent of the peaker.  </p>
<p>If the Democrats do not want to be judged on their insults, then the Democrats should renounce political correctness.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22577/can-political-discourse-get-any-dumber/comment-page-1/#comment-130657</link>
		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS,&lt;br&gt;Strangely enough, you&#039;d think that if McCain was doing so well he wouldn&#039;t make the &quot;lipstick on a pig&quot; reference into a sexist attack. THAT was the act of desperation. Why did they play the gender card?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s like when Obama made the dollar bill comment this summer. It was seen, rightly, as a desperate play of the race card.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems the McCain people panicked here. Fortunately for Obama he&#039;s calling this BS out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS,<br />Strangely enough, you&#39;d think that if McCain was doing so well he wouldn&#39;t make the &#8220;lipstick on a pig&#8221; reference into a sexist attack. THAT was the act of desperation. Why did they play the gender card?</p>
<p>It&#39;s like when Obama made the dollar bill comment this summer. It was seen, rightly, as a desperate play of the race card.</p>
<p>It seems the McCain people panicked here. Fortunately for Obama he&#39;s calling this BS out.</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The lipstick phrase is a common, innocent cliché.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barack is just being ripped because the liberals and press overreached when she was announced as the VP pick.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it fair?  Probably not.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some days, it just sucks to be a Democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>The lipstick phrase is a common, innocent cliché.</p>
<p>Barack is just being ripped because the liberals and press overreached when she was announced as the VP pick.</p>
<p>Is it fair?  Probably not.  </p>
<p>Some days, it just sucks to be a Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The folks at Reason&#039;s blog put the lipstick on the Republican pigs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128711.html&quot;&gt;http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128711.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Driving home last night, I caught a few minutes of a right-wing talk radio show (one that had surely never aired a sexist remark about Hillary Clinton) and heard the spin that, well, Obama must have been making a sexist comment because presidential candidates don&#039;t talk like this. Take it, Dick Cheney.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    John Kerry is trying every which way to cover up his record of weakness on national defense. But he can&#039;t do it. It won&#039;t work. As we like to say in Wyoming, you can put all the lipstick you want on that pig, but at the end of the day, it&#039;s still a pig.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess it was OK when Chenney says it, but now it&#039;s &quot;sexist&quot;. Talk about flip-flops...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The folks at Reason&#39;s blog put the lipstick on the Republican pigs.<br /><a href="http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128711.html">http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128711.html</a><br />
<blockquote>Driving home last night, I caught a few minutes of a right-wing talk radio show (one that had surely never aired a sexist remark about Hillary Clinton) and heard the spin that, well, Obama must have been making a sexist comment because presidential candidates don&#39;t talk like this. Take it, Dick Cheney.</p>
<p>    John Kerry is trying every which way to cover up his record of weakness on national defense. But he can&#39;t do it. It won&#39;t work. As we like to say in Wyoming, you can put all the lipstick you want on that pig, but at the end of the day, it&#39;s still a pig.</p></blockquote>
<p>I guess it was OK when Chenney says it, but now it&#39;s &#8220;sexist&#8221;. Talk about flip-flops&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22577/can-political-discourse-get-any-dumber/comment-page-1/#comment-130653</link>
		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is this the line the Republicans (who speak curiously similar to FOX NEWS anchors) are going to go with?&quot;&lt;br&gt;********&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ahhhhh Grasshopper.  You noticed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &quot;liberal media&quot; is indeed a myth, promoted to divert, confuse and befuddle.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We know whose pocket mainstream media sits in.  We weren&#039;t born yesterday.   I love one reporter&#039;s comment about a bit she did, &quot;hey, I only say what they want me to say in the briefing room.&quot;...and she laughed.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s more to that than you want to know..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is this the line the Republicans (who speak curiously similar to FOX NEWS anchors) are going to go with?&#8221;<br />********</p>
<p>Ahhhhh Grasshopper.  You noticed.</p>
<p>The &#8220;liberal media&#8221; is indeed a myth, promoted to divert, confuse and befuddle.</p>
<p>We know whose pocket mainstream media sits in.  We weren&#39;t born yesterday.   I love one reporter&#39;s comment about a bit she did, &#8220;hey, I only say what they want me to say in the briefing room.&#8221;&#8230;and she laughed.  </p>
<p>There&#39;s more to that than you want to know..</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SD and jwest,&lt;br&gt;And what did it mean when McCain used the same term when talking about Clinton&#039;s health care plan? Don&#039;t duck and dodge this one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;While [McCain] said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton&#039;s health-care plan, he said it was &quot;eerily reminiscent&quot; of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the early 1990s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it&#039;s still a pig,&quot; [McCain] said of [Hillary Clinton&#039;s] proposal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD and jwest,<br />And what did it mean when McCain used the same term when talking about Clinton&#39;s health care plan? Don&#39;t duck and dodge this one.</p>
<blockquote><p>While [McCain] said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton&#39;s health-care plan, he said it was &#8220;eerily reminiscent&#8221; of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the early 1990s.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it&#39;s still a pig,&#8221; [McCain] said of [Hillary Clinton&#39;s] proposal.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when you have had black politicians get exctied about niggardly, black hole, and picnic, then yes, the rest of us should be able to be picky about the words used. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can you please provide references where you have accused blacks of being too thin skinned?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you have had black politicians get exctied about niggardly, black hole, and picnic, then yes, the rest of us should be able to be picky about the words used. </p>
<p>Can you please provide references where you have accused blacks of being too thin skinned?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The left (including the media) are in a frenzy because Palin is doing so well.  (They stoop low in attacking Palin at their own risk of keeping their Obama out of the White House.)  They&#039;re more emotional than normal, which is why they&#039;re so sensitive to trivia like this lipstick silliness.  McCain-Palin are not desperate; they currently are riding a wave of optimism and surprising success for nearly two weeks, for a Change [tm].  &quot;That&#039;s not supposed to happen!&quot;  Hence the excess we observe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left (including the media) are in a frenzy because Palin is doing so well.  (They stoop low in attacking Palin at their own risk of keeping their Obama out of the White House.)  They&#39;re more emotional than normal, which is why they&#39;re so sensitive to trivia like this lipstick silliness.  McCain-Palin are not desperate; they currently are riding a wave of optimism and surprising success for nearly two weeks, for a Change [tm].  &#8220;That&#39;s not supposed to happen!&#8221;  Hence the excess we observe.</p>
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