I agree with you on most of the torture issue, but can't you just post one article without some stupid partisan comments like McCain destroyed 3 jets? Its incredibly tacky. You belittle the rest of your commentary when you include such tackiness. But don't worry, NBC wont be kicking you off this forum for such, though your comments do resemble Keith O'Reillyman. And ytes I see Keith Olbermann and Bill O'Reilly both as horrible commentators.

because he is, and the CIA does.

How about it? PWT, DLS, superdestroyer, CStanley. Do you denounce and deplore torture and insist that it not be done in our name? I want a clear declaration. Here's mine:

Torture has no place in the treatment of prisoners of any kind, no matter what heinous crime we suspect the prisoners of. Furthermore every single prisoner of any kind has the right to know the charge against her, the evidence supporting that charge and has the right to defend herself against those charges. Those not charged or against whom we do not have sound evidence should be released.

But still, this is torture for Christ's sake.

I know, very trollish of me, but, I see some Obama style rhetorical flourish at work here. Promising future change without having demostrated the ability to bring about such change in the past. In your case, claiming that you'll be just as tough on the democratic ticket as you've been on the republican ticket without any evidence of having done so in the past.

I have gone hard at Clinton and Obama on occasion and will continue to point out those foibles. I'll also be cuffing Biden if he doesn't release his medical records stat.

Or will it get worse if McCain-Palin [insert clarion sound] beats Obama-Biden [kazoo]?

Your abject lack of intelligence is not insulting, it's just pathetic that you don't get it.

A core reason why using torture is so despicable is because it lowers the U.S. to the level of the North Vietnamese, North Koreans, Communist Chinese, Soviet Communists, Khmer Rouge, Nazis, etc., etc.

Get a grip, man!

How many individuals involving in torturing Americans have ever been prosecuted for violations of the Geneva Convention. How many times have you personally called for the criminal prosecution of those responsible for toruring Americans and for violating the Geneva Convetion My guess would be zero

The progressive would have some crediblityon torture is they could show that they were interested in torture commited by North Vietnam, North Korea, etc. I guess insulting Americans is more fun that remaining consistent.