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		<title>By: RememberNovember</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22478/the-gop-takes-aim-on-the-first-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-132050</link>
		<dc:creator>RememberNovember</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superdestroyer,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please cite references for your outlandish claims- ie, define the universe and give two examples. you have 30 mins.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;otherwse it&#039;s just Nixonian paranoid doublespeak.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;a free press should be free to ask questions of all siides and then after corroboration of facts and figures, make an assessment. Unlike Fox news.&lt;br&gt;( well Ok Chris Wallace does try and lets his guests answer rather than answer his own biased questions- the other clowns, not so much)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superdestroyer,</p>
<p>Please cite references for your outlandish claims- ie, define the universe and give two examples. you have 30 mins.</p>
<p>otherwse it&#39;s just Nixonian paranoid doublespeak.</p>
<p>a free press should be free to ask questions of all siides and then after corroboration of facts and figures, make an assessment. Unlike Fox news.<br />( well Ok Chris Wallace does try and lets his guests answer rather than answer his own biased questions- the other clowns, not so much)</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Republicans don&#039;t seem too fond of the first amendment, or even to remember how  our founding fathers extolled the virtues of an independent, free press as a vital part of a free society. (If there had been restrictions on a free press, we would have never been able to cut the umbilical cord with our colonial overlords)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They make up for it, however, with their exhuberant support of the second!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Republicans don&#39;t seem too fond of the first amendment, or even to remember how  our founding fathers extolled the virtues of an independent, free press as a vital part of a free society. (If there had been restrictions on a free press, we would have never been able to cut the umbilical cord with our colonial overlords)</p>
<p>They make up for it, however, with their exhuberant support of the second!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter_Allen</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22478/the-gop-takes-aim-on-the-first-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-132048</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter_Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From superdestroyer:&lt;blockquote&gt;It is hard to argue that Repubicans are the ones who want to do away with the First Amendment when it is the Democrats who want to...&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Both parties, when in their interests, want to limit transparency and/or knowledge amongst the electorate in order to further those interests. It isn&#039;t exclusive to either, and is a well-known and historied tactic. The individual methods may vary as much as the interests themselves, but the underlying theme remains universal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Public officials - which includes every government position from local street cleaner to President - sometimes forget that such jobs are meant to serve the people&#039;s interest of the district that empowered them. Freedom of speech, of the press, and expression comes in waves depending on how solid those officials believe their job security and grasp of &quot;power.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it any surprise that both major parties court the growing independent voting &quot;bloc&quot; as much as they currently strive? Again, the methods may vary, but the goal between the two parties remains the same: re-/establish their authority over said electorate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From superdestroyer:<br />
<blockquote>It is hard to argue that Repubicans are the ones who want to do away with the First Amendment when it is the Democrats who want to&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Both parties, when in their interests, want to limit transparency and/or knowledge amongst the electorate in order to further those interests. It isn&#39;t exclusive to either, and is a well-known and historied tactic. The individual methods may vary as much as the interests themselves, but the underlying theme remains universal.</p>
<p>Public officials &#8211; which includes every government position from local street cleaner to President &#8211; sometimes forget that such jobs are meant to serve the people&#39;s interest of the district that empowered them. Freedom of speech, of the press, and expression comes in waves depending on how solid those officials believe their job security and grasp of &#8220;power.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it any surprise that both major parties court the growing independent voting &#8220;bloc&#8221; as much as they currently strive? Again, the methods may vary, but the goal between the two parties remains the same: re-/establish their authority over said electorate.</p>
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		<title>By: A_D_Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>A_D_Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tune in Monday - September 8, 2008 at 11:00 a.m. (CDT) to the internet radio show &quot;Change Of Venue&quot; as host Zena Crenshaw talks with Florida attorney and activist Mark Adams on whether the media is an effective monitor of the courts or more like a sleeping watchdog. The Media As Judicial Monitor: A Sleeping Watchdog? &lt;br&gt; Attorney Adams points out that &quot;even obvious conflicts of interest for financial reasons draw little media attention, and something like exclusion of relevant evidence, personal bias, and ignoring the law and the facts in violation of fundamental due process draws even less&quot;. Don&#039;t miss this important interview!  CLICK HERE TO LEARN MORE&lt;br&gt;If link doesn&#039;t work, try the website &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.njcdlp.org/Change_of_Venue.html&quot;&gt;www.njcdlp.org/Change_of_Venue.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p>Tune in Monday &#8211; September 8, 2008 at 11:00 a.m. (CDT) to the internet radio show &#8220;Change Of Venue&#8221; as host Zena Crenshaw talks with Florida attorney and activist Mark Adams on whether the media is an effective monitor of the courts or more like a sleeping watchdog. The Media As Judicial Monitor: A Sleeping Watchdog? <br /> Attorney Adams points out that &#8220;even obvious conflicts of interest for financial reasons draw little media attention, and something like exclusion of relevant evidence, personal bias, and ignoring the law and the facts in violation of fundamental due process draws even less&#8221;. Don&#39;t miss this important interview!  CLICK HERE TO LEARN MORE<br />If link doesn&#39;t work, try the website <a href="http://www.njcdlp.org/Change_of_Venue.html">http://www.njcdlp.org/Change_of_Venue.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;“It’s not strange at all. Columnists and reporters don’t assume anything. They go to journalism school, where they learn the definitions of what the people want to know, and how urgently they want to know it. The study of journalism, and all the other media forms, is as black-and-white as learning English. The media uses definitions, rules and values that are as clear-cut as the conjugation of verbs.”&#039;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sarah Palin has a degree in journalism.... if she can read the mood of the &quot;people&quot; and what they want to know and how urgently this might help explain why she flip flops on issues she supported, only to turn against them because the public didn&#039;t like her positions.  Not a bad trait for politicians.... however given the mischaracterizations and lies she has been involved in she will tell any story to the public (and make up &quot;facts&quot; as necessary) so she can sell herself and manipulate the public into giving her what she wants.... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seems so Rovian...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#39;“It’s not strange at all. Columnists and reporters don’t assume anything. They go to journalism school, where they learn the definitions of what the people want to know, and how urgently they want to know it. The study of journalism, and all the other media forms, is as black-and-white as learning English. The media uses definitions, rules and values that are as clear-cut as the conjugation of verbs.”&#39;</p>
<p>Sarah Palin has a degree in journalism&#8230;. if she can read the mood of the &#8220;people&#8221; and what they want to know and how urgently this might help explain why she flip flops on issues she supported, only to turn against them because the public didn&#39;t like her positions.  Not a bad trait for politicians&#8230;. however given the mischaracterizations and lies she has been involved in she will tell any story to the public (and make up &#8220;facts&#8221; as necessary) so she can sell herself and manipulate the public into giving her what she wants&#8230;. </p>
<p>Seems so Rovian&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is hard to argue that Repubicans are the ones who want to do away with the First Amendment when it is the Democrats who want to regluate political speech, who want to limit the quantity of speech, who want to use the MSM as gatekeepers on the media, who want to bring back the fairness doctrine in order to elimiante conservative speech from the airwaves, and who want to use hate crime laws to limit individuals abilityto petition the government &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the real world, the nanny state in incombatible with free speech, free press, and free assembly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is hard to argue that Repubicans are the ones who want to do away with the First Amendment when it is the Democrats who want to regluate political speech, who want to limit the quantity of speech, who want to use the MSM as gatekeepers on the media, who want to bring back the fairness doctrine in order to elimiante conservative speech from the airwaves, and who want to use hate crime laws to limit individuals abilityto petition the government </p>
<p>In the real world, the nanny state in incombatible with free speech, free press, and free assembly.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you saying that the media has the monopoly on informational flow?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shocker..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s why I like TMV, and NPR and foreign news-outlets.  Not because they are socialist or anti-american or liberal-left...but because they allow a wider range on the menu of information in order to make informed choices.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I listen to their polar opposite: CNN and Fox as well..both de facto GOP limited-information-dispensing outlets.   I do so mainly to keep an eye on the angle of the latest spin on &quot;truth&quot;.  Fair and balanced my kiester.  But occasionally truth does inadvertantly escape from there.  I especially like the tactic of cutting off reports just as the opposition (to the GOP) begins to make a point with &quot;well, we&#039;re all out of time folks..&quot;  They fall back on that one constantly.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I love Colbert&#039;s (with a hard &quot;t&quot;...lol..) &#039;truthiness&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying that the media has the monopoly on informational flow?</p>
<p>Shocker..</p>
<p>That&#39;s why I like TMV, and NPR and foreign news-outlets.  Not because they are socialist or anti-american or liberal-left&#8230;but because they allow a wider range on the menu of information in order to make informed choices.</p>
<p>I listen to their polar opposite: CNN and Fox as well..both de facto GOP limited-information-dispensing outlets.   I do so mainly to keep an eye on the angle of the latest spin on &#8220;truth&#8221;.  Fair and balanced my kiester.  But occasionally truth does inadvertantly escape from there.  I especially like the tactic of cutting off reports just as the opposition (to the GOP) begins to make a point with &#8220;well, we&#39;re all out of time folks..&#8221;  They fall back on that one constantly.    </p>
<p>I love Colbert&#39;s (with a hard &#8220;t&#8221;&#8230;lol..) &#39;truthiness&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter_Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter_Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I agree with your premise. The follow-up to this article would be an examination of online blogs, discussion boards, and networking sites, and their impact on the established media. Much like television changed the nature of news reporting, so too has the Internet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t try at self-deception, in believing that the Internet will become the saviour of news reporting. It has become, however, an exceedingly potent tool in taking the established media to task or pooling human resources together in volunteer ways which only large corporations were able to before. Imagine, if you would, a ham-radio operator gaining media credentials in the 80&#039;s or even 90&#039;s, and it has certain parallels to what is being achieved today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Due to the nature of the Internet, people are actively searching for answers. I believe this trend is increasing, albeit slowly. Many people have grown up in &quot;trusting&quot; the voices of the television (and even radio) media, where answers are fed to them without much effort. Now, if they have a question about something, they at least are starting to search for that base truth again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I agree with your premise. The follow-up to this article would be an examination of online blogs, discussion boards, and networking sites, and their impact on the established media. Much like television changed the nature of news reporting, so too has the Internet.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t try at self-deception, in believing that the Internet will become the saviour of news reporting. It has become, however, an exceedingly potent tool in taking the established media to task or pooling human resources together in volunteer ways which only large corporations were able to before. Imagine, if you would, a ham-radio operator gaining media credentials in the 80&#39;s or even 90&#39;s, and it has certain parallels to what is being achieved today.</p>
<p>Due to the nature of the Internet, people are actively searching for answers. I believe this trend is increasing, albeit slowly. Many people have grown up in &#8220;trusting&#8221; the voices of the television (and even radio) media, where answers are fed to them without much effort. Now, if they have a question about something, they at least are starting to search for that base truth again.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.. Well, I found the post intriguing, particularly, your thought: &quot;It’s not strange at all. Columnists and reporters don’t assume anything. They go to journalism school, where they learn the definitions of what the people want to know, and how urgently they want to know it. The study of journalism, and all the other media forms, is as black-and-white as learning English.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Would you mind spelling out what these obvious and clear rules are, because I don&#039;t really see how such clear rules could even exist. Perhaps it doesn&#039;t help that I&#039;m a linguist who realizes that the rules of English are also far from black and white. Indeed they are muddied, variable, and enforced my social codes and aspirations. That aside, I&#039;d love to get a couple paragraphs about these rules that everyone learns in journalism school. You&#039;d at least cure the illiteracy of a couple hundred TMV readers....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.. Well, I found the post intriguing, particularly, your thought: &#8220;It’s not strange at all. Columnists and reporters don’t assume anything. They go to journalism school, where they learn the definitions of what the people want to know, and how urgently they want to know it. The study of journalism, and all the other media forms, is as black-and-white as learning English.&#8221;</p>
<p>Would you mind spelling out what these obvious and clear rules are, because I don&#39;t really see how such clear rules could even exist. Perhaps it doesn&#39;t help that I&#39;m a linguist who realizes that the rules of English are also far from black and white. Indeed they are muddied, variable, and enforced my social codes and aspirations. That aside, I&#39;d love to get a couple paragraphs about these rules that everyone learns in journalism school. You&#39;d at least cure the illiteracy of a couple hundred TMV readers&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RememberNovember</title>
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		<dc:creator>RememberNovember</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes a lot of sense and something I have been talking about with my sibling ( An ex AP person)- we need media ombudsmen to decifer their doublespeak as we do with politicos.&lt;br&gt;We have movie reviewers who put to task filmmakers works and articulate that and trasnpose it for the common joe, why not reporters/media? No, we viscerally eat it up like Gerber&#039;s chopped peas and spit it back out. With a few exceptions ( Jon Stewart/Colbert ) of course.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;:applause:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;nail, meet head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes a lot of sense and something I have been talking about with my sibling ( An ex AP person)- we need media ombudsmen to decifer their doublespeak as we do with politicos.<br />We have movie reviewers who put to task filmmakers works and articulate that and trasnpose it for the common joe, why not reporters/media? No, we viscerally eat it up like Gerber&#39;s chopped peas and spit it back out. With a few exceptions ( Jon Stewart/Colbert ) of course.</p>
<p>:applause:</p>
<p>nail, meet head.</p>
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		<title>By: PattonGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>PattonGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the Republicans, especially Bush &amp; Co. were not exactly fond of the First Amendment, but that was in a civil liberties sense.  I hadn&#039;t thought of it this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the Republicans, especially Bush &#038; Co. were not exactly fond of the First Amendment, but that was in a civil liberties sense.  I hadn&#39;t thought of it this way.</p>
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