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		<title>By: Fuexperee</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22476/stupid-unpatriotic-wrong-and-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-183237</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuexperee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 12:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Neiptione</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neiptione</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 09:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22476/stupid-unpatriotic-wrong-and-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-123109</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well? Want to get practical here? Or are we too enamored of these paper and cloth objects to think about trivial matters like public health?</description>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22476/stupid-unpatriotic-wrong-and-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-123105</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now. I guess no one has bothered to consider a couple of points. First, it&#039;s illegal to burn trash in Denver. I think perhaps the &quot;proper flag disposal&quot; thing is a bit out of date. We actually don&#039;t need the air pollution, however patriotic. I&#039;m not saying that the flags were going to be disposed of, just pointing out that burning 125,000 flags to show respect for their symbolism isn&#039;t really that great an idea. Which brings me to point two. Do you want to wave a recycled flag? Not refurbished or sanitized in any way; just picked up from the seat at a convention and given to boy scouts (or whatever). I don&#039;t think that&#039;s an especially great idea either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now. I guess no one has bothered to consider a couple of points. First, it&#39;s illegal to burn trash in Denver. I think perhaps the &#8220;proper flag disposal&#8221; thing is a bit out of date. We actually don&#39;t need the air pollution, however patriotic. I&#39;m not saying that the flags were going to be disposed of, just pointing out that burning 125,000 flags to show respect for their symbolism isn&#39;t really that great an idea. Which brings me to point two. Do you want to wave a recycled flag? Not refurbished or sanitized in any way; just picked up from the seat at a convention and given to boy scouts (or whatever). I don&#39;t think that&#39;s an especially great idea either.</p>
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		<title>By: UPDATED AND BUMPED: Obama Puts Out A Lie To Try And Cover Up What We Saw Back On 08-28-08&#8230;.New Game: Where&#8217;s the Flag At The Democratic National Convention..Hint: Look In The Trash &#124; Right Voices</title>
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		<dc:creator>UPDATED AND BUMPED: Obama Puts Out A Lie To Try And Cover Up What We Saw Back On 08-28-08&#8230;.New Game: Where&#8217;s the Flag At The Democratic National Convention..Hint: Look In The Trash &#124; Right Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jazz Shaw’s following the story at TMV [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff_from_Mpls</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22476/stupid-unpatriotic-wrong-and-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-123103</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff_from_Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What disturbs me is the low standard of proof we hold for the Democrat Party.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Their statement imparts two claims: &lt;br&gt;1. Yes, we threw the flags in trash bags and set them at the garbage pickup.&lt;br&gt;2. We had good intentions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m willing to take them at their word, because let&#039;s face it, a man can&#039;t read the intentions of another man with any certainty.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But please, on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is a pretty transparent &quot;I got caught but you can&#039;t prove it&quot; and 10 is &quot;Here&#039;s your proof, now apologize,&quot; this Democrat Party reply is a 1.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does this limp denial logically justify the headline: &quot;SHOCK: BOGUS REPUBLICAN FLAG STORY EXPOSED?&quot; Of course not. But it&#039;s good to see the clandestine Democrat-MSM relationship being forced out of the closet, out into the bright light of scrutiny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What disturbs me is the low standard of proof we hold for the Democrat Party.</p>
<p>Their statement imparts two claims: <br />1. Yes, we threw the flags in trash bags and set them at the garbage pickup.<br />2. We had good intentions.</p>
<p>I&#39;m willing to take them at their word, because let&#39;s face it, a man can&#39;t read the intentions of another man with any certainty.</p>
<p>But please, on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is a pretty transparent &#8220;I got caught but you can&#39;t prove it&#8221; and 10 is &#8220;Here&#39;s your proof, now apologize,&#8221; this Democrat Party reply is a 1.</p>
<p>Does this limp denial logically justify the headline: &#8220;SHOCK: BOGUS REPUBLICAN FLAG STORY EXPOSED?&#8221; Of course not. But it&#39;s good to see the clandestine Democrat-MSM relationship being forced out of the closet, out into the bright light of scrutiny.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real issues are the economy, education, war, etc.  I think we need to continue to focus on these.  But our flag is America&#039;s most sacred symbol and it needs to be treated with respect.  Like Jazz, I agree that if someone wants to burn the flag as part of a protest, then that is their right.  Though I would hope that anyone who wants to burn the flag in a protest will only do so after much consideration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I read the update where the person says that flags have been there for over a week and would have been thrown away.  The question I have is why wasn&#039;t the trash picked up sooner?  Don&#039;t they pick up trash more often than every week or two?  Or was the trash picked up within the last week and the flags remained?  I find it hard to believe that convention officials would actually leave trash sitting in dumpsters for over a week in the hot summer sun without having it picked up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At any rate I think the Republicans are throwing our stories to raise the ire against Democrats and throw up a smokescreen around their own failings.  The GOP so desperately needs to make this campaign about why the Dems can&#039;t lead the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real issues are the economy, education, war, etc.  I think we need to continue to focus on these.  But our flag is America&#39;s most sacred symbol and it needs to be treated with respect.  Like Jazz, I agree that if someone wants to burn the flag as part of a protest, then that is their right.  Though I would hope that anyone who wants to burn the flag in a protest will only do so after much consideration.</p>
<p>I read the update where the person says that flags have been there for over a week and would have been thrown away.  The question I have is why wasn&#39;t the trash picked up sooner?  Don&#39;t they pick up trash more often than every week or two?  Or was the trash picked up within the last week and the flags remained?  I find it hard to believe that convention officials would actually leave trash sitting in dumpsters for over a week in the hot summer sun without having it picked up.</p>
<p>At any rate I think the Republicans are throwing our stories to raise the ire against Democrats and throw up a smokescreen around their own failings.  The GOP so desperately needs to make this campaign about why the Dems can&#39;t lead the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Lit3Bolt</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22476/stupid-unpatriotic-wrong-and-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-123092</link>
		<dc:creator>Lit3Bolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is what the USA has become, then GOD. MAY. DAMN. THE. U. S. A.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All of you turned topsy turvey by this BS, SHAME ON YOU.  I hate you.  Each and every one of you.  Because you care more about a piece of CLOTH than the patriots that shed their blood for it.  SO SPARE ME.  Your fake outrage does NOT impress.  It is BS, and everyone, including yourself, knows it.  It is only to to score political points.  And you are lying, in effective, to make those points true.  So may God Damn All Republicans Forever.  This is my deepest wish and my most sacred prayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is what the USA has become, then GOD. MAY. DAMN. THE. U. S. A.</p>
<p>All of you turned topsy turvey by this BS, SHAME ON YOU.  I hate you.  Each and every one of you.  Because you care more about a piece of CLOTH than the patriots that shed their blood for it.  SO SPARE ME.  Your fake outrage does NOT impress.  It is BS, and everyone, including yourself, knows it.  It is only to to score political points.  And you are lying, in effective, to make those points true.  So may God Damn All Republicans Forever.  This is my deepest wish and my most sacred prayer.</p>
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		<title>By: nepr</title>
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		<dc:creator>nepr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there a right to dispose of ones property, even throw it in a dumpster, if you don&#039;t need it anymore?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I was to sit in my room, with my crayons, and draw an United Stated of America flag on a piece of paper, would I have created an object of reverence?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some people who burn USA flags are just practicing cultural vandalism, but some are asking, &quot;What&#039;s more important, the flag, or my right to burn it?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does someone actually have a right, when merely exercising it exposes them to scorn, ridicule and sanction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder&#8230;</p>
<p>Is there a right to dispose of ones property, even throw it in a dumpster, if you don&#39;t need it anymore?</p>
<p>If I was to sit in my room, with my crayons, and draw an United Stated of America flag on a piece of paper, would I have created an object of reverence?</p>
<p>Some people who burn USA flags are just practicing cultural vandalism, but some are asking, &#8220;What&#39;s more important, the flag, or my right to burn it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Does someone actually have a right, when merely exercising it exposes them to scorn, ridicule and sanction?</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz,&lt;br&gt;You should include the info from Clarissa in her post above. She apparently spoke with some DNC people in Denver today. It was worker who tried to stir up trouble by pushing this bogus story to the GOP. The flags were awaiting transfer; they were not headed for the dumpster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz,<br />You should include the info from Clarissa in her post above. She apparently spoke with some DNC people in Denver today. It was worker who tried to stir up trouble by pushing this bogus story to the GOP. The flags were awaiting transfer; they were not headed for the dumpster.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the DNC had, in fact, planned to throw away thousands of flags then it would be a big story. But it&#039;s quite obvious that that isn&#039;t what happened. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m hoping the DNC takes legal action against the McCain campaign for stealing the flags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the DNC had, in fact, planned to throw away thousands of flags then it would be a big story. But it&#39;s quite obvious that that isn&#39;t what happened. </p>
<p>I&#39;m hoping the DNC takes legal action against the McCain campaign for stealing the flags.</p>
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		<title>By: markg8</title>
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		<dc:creator>markg8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US government is about to take over Fannie May and Freddie Mac incurring $5 trillion dollars in mortgage debt, a whole lot of it bad thanks to Republican fiscal policy, their Vice Presidential candidate is stonewalling and trying to scuttle an investigation into what clearly looks like her abuse of power and what does McCain&#039;s campaign come up with? This stupidity. Unf*ckingbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US government is about to take over Fannie May and Freddie Mac incurring $5 trillion dollars in mortgage debt, a whole lot of it bad thanks to Republican fiscal policy, their Vice Presidential candidate is stonewalling and trying to scuttle an investigation into what clearly looks like her abuse of power and what does McCain&#39;s campaign come up with? This stupidity. Unf*ckingbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fox News &quot;response to the DNC&quot; is BS. The flags were in the loading dock area of Invesco Field awaiting transfer to the VFW and cemeteries. The term &quot;near a dumpster&quot; means that a dumpster is in the loading dock area. Well, duh. There&#039;s always a dumpster near a loading dock. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is nothing odd about the flags being there. It takes a long time to dispose of that many flags if you want to do it properly. If the Democrats wanted to throw away 125,000 flags they would have thrown them away last week with everything else.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is a disgusting story from the GOP and doesn&#039;t pass the laugh test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fox News &#8220;response to the DNC&#8221; is BS. The flags were in the loading dock area of Invesco Field awaiting transfer to the VFW and cemeteries. The term &#8220;near a dumpster&#8221; means that a dumpster is in the loading dock area. Well, duh. There&#39;s always a dumpster near a loading dock. </p>
<p>There is nothing odd about the flags being there. It takes a long time to dispose of that many flags if you want to do it properly. If the Democrats wanted to throw away 125,000 flags they would have thrown them away last week with everything else.</p>
<p>This is a disgusting story from the GOP and doesn&#39;t pass the laugh test.</p>
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		<title>By: Life on Mars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life on Mars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gobsmacked that anyone can manage to remotely give a fuck about this either [...]</description>
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		<title>By: davemartin7777</title>
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		<dc:creator>davemartin7777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should just forget about the past eight years, roll over, play dead and let them take over the county again because they love Jesus and America more than any of us ever could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should just forget about the past eight years, roll over, play dead and let them take over the county again because they love Jesus and America more than any of us ever could.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the back and forth and looking at the pictures, it&#039;s obvious that these flags were intended to be given to some organization to be disposed of properly (VFW?). The only problem is that they had not yet made the arrangements and were still there at the stadium. The presence of Hefty bags does not mean they were going to be trashed as they would have already been throw away with everything else. Being rolled up properly they were obviously awaiting pickup from somebody. At worst, some staffer failed to follow through and make the arrangements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the back and forth and looking at the pictures, it&#39;s obvious that these flags were intended to be given to some organization to be disposed of properly (VFW?). The only problem is that they had not yet made the arrangements and were still there at the stadium. The presence of Hefty bags does not mean they were going to be trashed as they would have already been throw away with everything else. Being rolled up properly they were obviously awaiting pickup from somebody. At worst, some staffer failed to follow through and make the arrangements.</p>
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		<title>By: ktkeith</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktkeith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that the two different stories are not in conflict - and the photos you show support the Democratic version.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There may well have been flags in trash bags in Dumpsters after the convention. With tens of thousands of people in attendance and huge amounts of decorations, there were likely thousands of pounds of trinkets and displays to be disposed of, no doubt including many flags. Maybe you&#039;d like somebody to go through all the trash from a convention hall and an outdoor football stadium by hand, separate out anything that looks like a flag, and hold a ritual pyre for it, but I doubt anyone did that and I can&#039;t see anything wrong with that. (And do you think that&#039;s what the GOP did with all their trash after their convention?) It doesn&#039;t upset me that flags may have gotten swept up and thrown away after a political convention, and I would assume that&#039;s exactly what happened after each and every political convention that has been held by every US party in history so far.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the flags in the black bags shown in your post are obviously brand new and unused. They are clean, rolled neatly, and tied in identical bundles. It doesn&#039;t matter what kinds of bags they are stored in (you can call those &quot;trash bags&quot; if you like, but they don&#039;t have trash in them; why not just call them &quot;flag bags&quot;?). It&#039;s obvious those flags were leftovers from the convention, and I would assume they were going to be used at some later function, if only for reasons of expense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note also that it&#039;s obvious the GOP did not &quot;rescue&quot; any flags from actual trash bags - all the flags they show are neat and brand new. Which means the GOP also allowed the used post-convention flags to go out in the trash, after making a stink about finding them. They simply stole the clean, unused ones for their own use and then bragged about it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For God&#039;s sake, grow up and find something real to talk about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that the two different stories are not in conflict &#8211; and the photos you show support the Democratic version.</p>
<p>There may well have been flags in trash bags in Dumpsters after the convention. With tens of thousands of people in attendance and huge amounts of decorations, there were likely thousands of pounds of trinkets and displays to be disposed of, no doubt including many flags. Maybe you&#39;d like somebody to go through all the trash from a convention hall and an outdoor football stadium by hand, separate out anything that looks like a flag, and hold a ritual pyre for it, but I doubt anyone did that and I can&#39;t see anything wrong with that. (And do you think that&#39;s what the GOP did with all their trash after their convention?) It doesn&#39;t upset me that flags may have gotten swept up and thrown away after a political convention, and I would assume that&#39;s exactly what happened after each and every political convention that has been held by every US party in history so far.</p>
<p>But the flags in the black bags shown in your post are obviously brand new and unused. They are clean, rolled neatly, and tied in identical bundles. It doesn&#39;t matter what kinds of bags they are stored in (you can call those &#8220;trash bags&#8221; if you like, but they don&#39;t have trash in them; why not just call them &#8220;flag bags&#8221;?). It&#39;s obvious those flags were leftovers from the convention, and I would assume they were going to be used at some later function, if only for reasons of expense.</p>
<p>Note also that it&#39;s obvious the GOP did not &#8220;rescue&#8221; any flags from actual trash bags &#8211; all the flags they show are neat and brand new. Which means the GOP also allowed the used post-convention flags to go out in the trash, after making a stink about finding them. They simply stole the clean, unused ones for their own use and then bragged about it.</p>
<p>For God&#39;s sake, grow up and find something real to talk about.</p>
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		<title>By: jonimp9</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jwest: &quot;letting the rest of the voters choose the next president.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why don&#039;t we let your comment develop into its logical conclusion. You say this like there is a way to not let the rest of the voters choose the next president. As if it was your and only your voted that decided. Show me a case when a presidential election was decided by 1 vote. If that were to happen, how many recounts do you think there would be. It would be even worse than the partisan debacle in 2000 (and I don&#039;t have to remind anyone about the hanging chad debate, as if something that subjective could be done in a non-partisan matter.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jwest: &#8220;letting the rest of the voters choose the next president.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why don&#39;t we let your comment develop into its logical conclusion. You say this like there is a way to not let the rest of the voters choose the next president. As if it was your and only your voted that decided. Show me a case when a presidential election was decided by 1 vote. If that were to happen, how many recounts do you think there would be. It would be even worse than the partisan debacle in 2000 (and I don&#39;t have to remind anyone about the hanging chad debate, as if something that subjective could be done in a non-partisan matter.)</p>
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		<title>By: onleyone</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jwest:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you may not intend to insult, but over here in my world, even your last comment to jazz is thick with condescension. i&#039;m fairly certain he grasps what you&#039;re saying; i believe he&#039;s simply taking the longer, less cynical (i think you confuse that with &quot;less realistic&quot;) view of the american political landscape. and i don&#039;t care how right you think you are, patronizing an honorable opponent is reprehensible. spiteful and mean is what it is, no matter what side of the aisle you fancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jwest:</p>
<p>you may not intend to insult, but over here in my world, even your last comment to jazz is thick with condescension. i&#39;m fairly certain he grasps what you&#39;re saying; i believe he&#39;s simply taking the longer, less cynical (i think you confuse that with &#8220;less realistic&#8221;) view of the american political landscape. and i don&#39;t care how right you think you are, patronizing an honorable opponent is reprehensible. spiteful and mean is what it is, no matter what side of the aisle you fancy.</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Onleyone,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That “put your big boy pants on” term is (in my world, at least) a harmless way of saying that it’s decision time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It’s a bit like “bite my fat white ass”, only with a little more finesse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Onleyone,</p>
<p>That “put your big boy pants on” term is (in my world, at least) a harmless way of saying that it’s decision time.</p>
<p>It’s a bit like “bite my fat white ass”, only with a little more finesse.</p>
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