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	<title>Comments on: Kicking the Palin &#8220;Experience&#8221; Meme Around (Again)</title>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... Â  Â I seem to remember something about Palin serving a couple of years as governor of Alaska, a state with the population of another small-pop state named Delaware. Â  Running a state for two years would also count in my simple-minded playbook. Â  Actually making decisions &amp; managing a lot of different agencies &amp; administrative situations. Â  And having a 90% popularity rating for the first year as gov..... Â  Seems you are straining at that gnat &amp; swallowing the Obama camel a bit, despite your statement to the contrary.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barr &amp; Nader are true lightweights, and Palin is probably Obama&#039;s equal in foreign policy experience, since both have practically none [being a subcommittee chairman on the SenFonRel Cte isn&#039;t experience-----my wife worked for Paul Sarbanes as a legislative aide for several years &amp; he was functionally illiterate on the Middle East though he chaired that subcommittee in the SenFonRelCte. Â I talked to him a couple of times &amp; he really tried not to get involved in any Arab-Israeli issues &amp; knowingly kept himself ignorant----and he chaired the subcte for a decade.] -------------- Original message from &quot;Disqus&quot; &lt;&gt;: --------------</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; Â  Â I seem to remember something about Palin serving a couple of years as governor of Alaska, a state with the population of another small-pop state named Delaware. Â  Running a state for two years would also count in my simple-minded playbook. Â  Actually making decisions &#038; managing a lot of different agencies &#038; administrative situations. Â  And having a 90% popularity rating for the first year as gov&#8230;.. Â  Seems you are straining at that gnat &#038; swallowing the Obama camel a bit, despite your statement to the contrary.</p>
<p>Barr &#038; Nader are true lightweights, and Palin is probably Obama&#39;s equal in foreign policy experience, since both have practically none [being a subcommittee chairman on the SenFonRel Cte isn&#39;t experience-----my wife worked for Paul Sarbanes as a legislative aide for several years &#038; he was functionally illiterate on the Middle East though he chaired that subcommittee in the SenFonRelCte. Â I talked to him a couple of times &#038; he really tried not to get involved in any Arab-Israeli issues &#038; knowingly kept himself ignorant----and he chaired the subcte for a decade.] &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; Original message from &#8220;Disqus&#8221; &lt;&gt;: &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: kathyedits</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22469/kicking-the-palin-experience-meme-around-again/comment-page-1/#comment-129238</link>
		<dc:creator>kathyedits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;McCain and Biden, on the other hand, both have the experience and bona fides to give me confidence.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain  has experience, but he doesn&#039;t have the judgment or temperament to be president. He&#039;s a hothead and his judgment is terrible. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even if you just look at the disparity in experience between McCain/Biden and Obama, I really don&#039;t get what you&#039;re getting at, Jazz. McCain and Biden are both long-term U.S. senators, and Obama is also a U.S. senator, first term, and before that was a state senator for, I believe, three terms. It&#039;s the same exact experience -- the difference is that McCain and Biden have more *years* of that experience (DUH, they&#039;re a lot older than Obama, too).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If being a member of Congress does NOT give you experience in governance; if being a governor or a mayor is what gives you governing experience, then how can either McCain or Biden be considered to have governing experience?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>McCain and Biden, on the other hand, both have the experience and bona fides to give me confidence.</i></p>
<p>McCain  has experience, but he doesn&#39;t have the judgment or temperament to be president. He&#39;s a hothead and his judgment is terrible. </p>
<p>Even if you just look at the disparity in experience between McCain/Biden and Obama, I really don&#39;t get what you&#39;re getting at, Jazz. McCain and Biden are both long-term U.S. senators, and Obama is also a U.S. senator, first term, and before that was a state senator for, I believe, three terms. It&#39;s the same exact experience &#8212; the difference is that McCain and Biden have more *years* of that experience (DUH, they&#39;re a lot older than Obama, too).</p>
<p>If being a member of Congress does NOT give you experience in governance; if being a governor or a mayor is what gives you governing experience, then how can either McCain or Biden be considered to have governing experience?</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike Harvard, both military academies are adept at kicking out anyone who the staff feels they could not follow personally into battle.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even the bottom of the class has what it takes to lead men into the most difficult situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike Harvard, both military academies are adept at kicking out anyone who the staff feels they could not follow personally into battle.</p>
<p>Even the bottom of the class has what it takes to lead men into the most difficult situations.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jwest: &lt;i&gt;McCain was trained for 4 years at one of the premier schools dedicated almost exclusively to decision making in matters of consequence – the U.S. Naval Academy. This school, along with West Point, are revered around the world for producing graduates who can make life and death decisions quickly, accurately and with honor.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Considering McCain&#039;s record in that institution, it amazes me you actually want to go there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jwest: <i>McCain was trained for 4 years at one of the premier schools dedicated almost exclusively to decision making in matters of consequence – the U.S. Naval Academy. This school, along with West Point, are revered around the world for producing graduates who can make life and death decisions quickly, accurately and with honor.</i></p>
<p>Considering McCain&#39;s record in that institution, it amazes me you actually want to go there.</p>
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		<title>By: onleyone</title>
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		<dc:creator>onleyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tell me about it. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tell me about it. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They’re letting the people of Maryland vote?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is disturbing news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They’re letting the people of Maryland vote?</p>
<p>This is disturbing news.</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that question (McCain executive experience) is for me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the context of the presidency, executive experience equates to decision making.  By decision making, I am referring to being the person who has the final say on matters of consequence.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain was trained for 4 years at one of the premier schools dedicated almost exclusively to decision making in matters of consequence – the U.S. Naval Academy.  This school, along with West Point, are revered around the world for producing graduates who can make life and death decisions quickly, accurately and with honor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I didn’t find that syllabus at Harvard.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From his earliest experiences in the Navy, he was given further training and escalating responsibilities in leadership and decision making.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I haven’t checked the community organizer training programs, so if they’re the same, let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that question (McCain executive experience) is for me.</p>
<p>In the context of the presidency, executive experience equates to decision making.  By decision making, I am referring to being the person who has the final say on matters of consequence.</p>
<p>McCain was trained for 4 years at one of the premier schools dedicated almost exclusively to decision making in matters of consequence – the U.S. Naval Academy.  This school, along with West Point, are revered around the world for producing graduates who can make life and death decisions quickly, accurately and with honor.</p>
<p>I didn’t find that syllabus at Harvard.</p>
<p>From his earliest experiences in the Navy, he was given further training and escalating responsibilities in leadership and decision making.</p>
<p>I haven’t checked the community organizer training programs, so if they’re the same, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: onleyone</title>
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		<dc:creator>onleyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jazz:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;obviously, i agree.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;jwest: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;since most voters don&#039;t vote for third parties, i see no problem in going that direction in non-swing states. when&#039;s the last time maryland went republican for prez? or alaska went democrat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jazz:</p>
<p>obviously, i agree.</p>
<p>jwest: </p>
<p>since most voters don&#39;t vote for third parties, i see no problem in going that direction in non-swing states. when&#39;s the last time maryland went republican for prez? or alaska went democrat?</p>
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		<title>By: RememberNovember</title>
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		<dc:creator>RememberNovember</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>again I reiterate, OBAMA is running for President, and McCAIN is running- WHAT EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE DO EACH OF THEM HAVE?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stop comparing Palin to Obama you nutjobs. One is a vetted nominee, the other is a short straw pick out of a hat.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Otherwise we can get into what foreign international experience does Palin have stacked up to Biden&#039;s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Having and island populate by US eskimos 3 miles from an island populated by Russian Eskimos doesn&#039;t count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again I reiterate, OBAMA is running for President, and McCAIN is running- WHAT EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE DO EACH OF THEM HAVE?</p>
<p>Stop comparing Palin to Obama you nutjobs. One is a vetted nominee, the other is a short straw pick out of a hat.</p>
<p>Otherwise we can get into what foreign international experience does Palin have stacked up to Biden&#39;s.</p>
<p>Having and island populate by US eskimos 3 miles from an island populated by Russian Eskimos doesn&#39;t count.</p>
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		<title>By: RememberNovember</title>
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		<dc:creator>RememberNovember</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Less than half of the US Presidents in history have been Governor- next argument!&lt;br&gt;And Sara Palin is running for VP, or did yo forget that McCain has been on the trail and is the presumptive nominee or is he just a figurehead now?- what executive experience has he had?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less than half of the US Presidents in history have been Governor- next argument!<br />And Sara Palin is running for VP, or did yo forget that McCain has been on the trail and is the presumptive nominee or is he just a figurehead now?- what executive experience has he had?</p>
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		<title>By: onleyone</title>
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		<dc:creator>onleyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CO: fair &#039;nuff. but i didn&#039;t link to wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CO: fair &#39;nuff. but i didn&#39;t link to wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I’m sorry if you think reality is insulting, but the truth is the truth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By voting for any third party, especially in a tight and critical election, you are choosing to sit out in a huff because neither of two real candidates matches every attribute you want in a president.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tough luck.  You either participate in a meaningful way or you don’t.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sure, if it’s obvious Obama is going to lose in a landslide, go ahead and make your protest vote.  But if this is a close contest, you are leaving your duty to help put the proper person in office by making a symbolic gesture.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just like being a president, sometimes you have to choose between two not-so-great options.  This is not the time to pass the ball and sit on the sidelines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz,</p>
<p>I’m sorry if you think reality is insulting, but the truth is the truth.</p>
<p>By voting for any third party, especially in a tight and critical election, you are choosing to sit out in a huff because neither of two real candidates matches every attribute you want in a president.</p>
<p>Tough luck.  You either participate in a meaningful way or you don’t.</p>
<p>Sure, if it’s obvious Obama is going to lose in a landslide, go ahead and make your protest vote.  But if this is a close contest, you are leaving your duty to help put the proper person in office by making a symbolic gesture.</p>
<p>Just like being a president, sometimes you have to choose between two not-so-great options.  This is not the time to pass the ball and sit on the sidelines.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, while Jim Satterfield makes some good points, I absolutely do find jwest&#039;s comments on third parties offensive and elitist. Far from being a vote of &quot;present&quot; so you can &quot;bitch later&quot; it&#039;s actually a very principled stand. In the case of Bob Barr, if you happen to feel that the GOP has abandoned all pretense of caring about limiting the size and scope of government and having responsible spending (which the GOP has abandoned and the Dems never had) then a vote for Barr is absolutely NOT voting present. It&#039;s a vote to indicate one of the very reasons that I left the Republican party in 2005. jwest&#039;s comments are a two party, partisan mentality which assumes that anyone who doesn&#039;t agree is a loon or whatever. I have no time for that. The GOP is in shambles and the Dems were never any good for paleoconservative values. And those who choose to say, &quot;Well, the GOP is still at least *closer* to what we want than the Dems&quot; is just doing nothing more than saying, &quot;Well, the people burning down the houses on the next block are better than the ones burning down the houses on my block, so I guess I&#039;ll run over there with some gasoline and a bic lighter and join them.&quot;  Insulting, offensive and wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#39;s worth, while Jim Satterfield makes some good points, I absolutely do find jwest&#39;s comments on third parties offensive and elitist. Far from being a vote of &#8220;present&#8221; so you can &#8220;bitch later&#8221; it&#39;s actually a very principled stand. In the case of Bob Barr, if you happen to feel that the GOP has abandoned all pretense of caring about limiting the size and scope of government and having responsible spending (which the GOP has abandoned and the Dems never had) then a vote for Barr is absolutely NOT voting present. It&#39;s a vote to indicate one of the very reasons that I left the Republican party in 2005. jwest&#39;s comments are a two party, partisan mentality which assumes that anyone who doesn&#39;t agree is a loon or whatever. I have no time for that. The GOP is in shambles and the Dems were never any good for paleoconservative values. And those who choose to say, &#8220;Well, the GOP is still at least *closer* to what we want than the Dems&#8221; is just doing nothing more than saying, &#8220;Well, the people burning down the houses on the next block are better than the ones burning down the houses on my block, so I guess I&#39;ll run over there with some gasoline and a bic lighter and join them.&#8221;  Insulting, offensive and wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>onlyone..........sponsored and PASSED.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and let&#039;s use &lt;a href=&quot;http://factcheck.org&quot;&gt;factcheck.org&lt;/a&gt;, not wikipedia..........&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_polishes_his_resume.html&quot;&gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_p...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>onlyone&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.sponsored and PASSED.</p>
<p>and let&#39;s use <a href="http://factcheck.org">factcheck.org</a>, not wikipedia&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_polishes_his_resume.html">http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_p&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: onleyone</title>
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		<dc:creator>onleyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so it&#039;s the rise of a bourgeoisie, eh? hmm. thanks for your take. interesting, as far as their sense of &quot;entitlement&quot; as regards their former satellites; that was also the impression i have gathered over the intertubes. this so-called &#039;concern&#039; they express for the people of south ossetia rings pretty hollow. it&#039;s about ownership pure and simple, as the political chest-pounding and muscle flexing by putin et al suggest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so it&#39;s the rise of a bourgeoisie, eh? hmm. thanks for your take. interesting, as far as their sense of &#8220;entitlement&#8221; as regards their former satellites; that was also the impression i have gathered over the intertubes. this so-called &#39;concern&#39; they express for the people of south ossetia rings pretty hollow. it&#39;s about ownership pure and simple, as the political chest-pounding and muscle flexing by putin et al suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cfpete,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Elections are like your family sending you for Chinese food.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You’ve got column A or column B.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It doesn’t matter that you like the food at the Italian restaurant down the street, if you don’t make a choice here, the kids won’t eat.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Put your big boy pants on and pick one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cfpete,</p>
<p>Elections are like your family sending you for Chinese food.</p>
<p>You’ve got column A or column B.</p>
<p>It doesn’t matter that you like the food at the Italian restaurant down the street, if you don’t make a choice here, the kids won’t eat.</p>
<p>Put your big boy pants on and pick one.</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Onleyone,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was in Moscow the first week of May and was in the reviewing stand for the dress rehearsal of the National Parade in Red Square.  (Got some crummy pictures too, but don’t know how to imbed them in a comment)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Moscow is awash with money and the feeling there is one of optimism and national pride.  The era of conspicuous consumption that we experienced in the late ‘90s pales in comparison to what is occurring in the wealthy sections of town.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Russian attitude toward the former Soviet satellite states is one of entitlement.  They don’t view them as independent, but just temporarily out of the fold.  Everyone in the business community views the Russian Army as the pipeline acquisition department of Gazprom.  Most of the upper levels in the companies are former KGB or early retired command to field grade military.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is unanimity of opinion that foreign interference in their internal affairs is not only unwanted, but insulting to the national pride.  By internal affairs, I mean anything concerning the territories comprising the former Soviet Union.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Other than that, they are great to do business with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Onleyone,</p>
<p>I was in Moscow the first week of May and was in the reviewing stand for the dress rehearsal of the National Parade in Red Square.  (Got some crummy pictures too, but don’t know how to imbed them in a comment)</p>
<p>Moscow is awash with money and the feeling there is one of optimism and national pride.  The era of conspicuous consumption that we experienced in the late ‘90s pales in comparison to what is occurring in the wealthy sections of town.  </p>
<p>The Russian attitude toward the former Soviet satellite states is one of entitlement.  They don’t view them as independent, but just temporarily out of the fold.  Everyone in the business community views the Russian Army as the pipeline acquisition department of Gazprom.  Most of the upper levels in the companies are former KGB or early retired command to field grade military.</p>
<p>There is unanimity of opinion that foreign interference in their internal affairs is not only unwanted, but insulting to the national pride.  By internal affairs, I mean anything concerning the territories comprising the former Soviet Union.</p>
<p>Other than that, they are great to do business with.</p>
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		<title>By: onleyone</title>
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		<dc:creator>onleyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jim:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i wholeheartedly agree. i like ideas from many different schools of thought, and the present system offers pretty much either/or. once or twice, i&#039;ve seen it suggested that a mccain-obama ticket would be interesting. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;there really should be separate votes for pres and vice-pres; why not make &#039;em work together out of the same office(s)? then we&#039;d really see what bipartisanship and &quot;reaching across the aisle&quot; was all about. if the administration still screwed up, then it would very clear that all involved parties are responsible. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;running the country should be the job of Americans, and democrats or republicans only incidentally. the labels too often get in the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jim:</p>
<p>i wholeheartedly agree. i like ideas from many different schools of thought, and the present system offers pretty much either/or. once or twice, i&#39;ve seen it suggested that a mccain-obama ticket would be interesting. </p>
<p>there really should be separate votes for pres and vice-pres; why not make &#39;em work together out of the same office(s)? then we&#39;d really see what bipartisanship and &#8220;reaching across the aisle&#8221; was all about. if the administration still screwed up, then it would very clear that all involved parties are responsible. </p>
<p>running the country should be the job of Americans, and democrats or republicans only incidentally. the labels too often get in the way.</p>
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		<title>By: onleyone</title>
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		<dc:creator>onleyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m afraid life really IS all about politics. yup, just politics! sorry, cfpete.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;we COULD talk about POLAR BEARS! that would be polarizing, AND fun. ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;but seriously (and sorry for all the caps there): i&#039;d love to hear any and all opinions on russia these days. anyone here in-the-know on the caucasus, or on the country&#039;s ambitions in the arctic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#39;m afraid life really IS all about politics. yup, just politics! sorry, cfpete.</p>
<p>we COULD talk about POLAR BEARS! that would be polarizing, AND fun. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>but seriously (and sorry for all the caps there): i&#39;d love to hear any and all opinions on russia these days. anyone here in-the-know on the caucasus, or on the country&#39;s ambitions in the arctic?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the two party system was an unforeseen consequence of our electoral system. It was easy to fall into. I&#039;d like to see some kind of proportional representation take the place of winner take all elections since I think that&#039;s the only way to give third parties a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the two party system was an unforeseen consequence of our electoral system. It was easy to fall into. I&#39;d like to see some kind of proportional representation take the place of winner take all elections since I think that&#39;s the only way to give third parties a chance.</p>
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