Comments on: See? On Gustav, Obama Really IS Just More of George W. Bush

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:45:13 +0000

http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2008/08/mccain-to…

By: GreenDreams

GreenDreams — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:32:58 +0000

IMO Bush missed it again. He's a lamer of a duck, so it doesn't matter, but to most Americans, the stronger position would be “I will be in the Oval Office, at my desk, managing this crisis” not “I'll be “working from home” on it.

I know it probably doesn't matter which office he uses, but the perception is that he's off again, not that he's “at work, tending to things.”

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:49:00 +0000

Neocon : “No matter what happens. It's Bush's fault.”

I think he has more than enough legitimate blunders to account for without you trying to blame him for the next time you trip over a crack in the sidewalk.

As for the McCain trip to MS? He wouldn't be going there if he wasn't running for prez, and since he's not prez, there's little he can accomplish there… except the photo op of course..

By: Neocon

Neocon — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:16:24 +0000

No matter what happens. It's Bush's fault.

You heard it here first.

Heading to Texas now to help with relief.

Neocon signing off.

By: ChrisWWW

ChrisWWW — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:50:12 +0000

Jazz,
I appreciate your quick response and I understand what you're saying a lot better.

For what it's worth, I think it's valuable to see how the candidates respond to actual crises that come up during the campaign season. But we should avoid giving a lot of weight to these wasteful photo-ops and more to what the candidates say they would do. I don't think that's out of bounds.

On that score, McCain's response to the Georgian conflict was very insightful. He responded with a lot of Bush-first-term style bluster and ultimatums. That was probably very comforting to about 30% of the country, and frightening for the rest of us. I was also disappointed to see Obama adopt a similar stance, but at the very least, he was low key about it.

By: StockBoySF

StockBoySF — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:30:17 +0000

Jazz, thanks for the clarification to Chris. I had the same thought as Chris when I read the article….. it seemed as though you were criticizing Obama, even though you earlier said that you agreed with him.

I too think that this is a “Damned if you do, damned if you don't” situation for McCain (and he had better not try to turn the tables on Obama over this). I think with McCain going it is political opportunism, but I'll keep my comments to a minimum on that…

By: Jazz

Jazz — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:23:57 +0000

Chris, I wasn't criticizing Obama on this particular case. In fact, I praised him for his decision. I was just pointing out, in a more general fashion that both candidates occasionally do things that seem as if they think they are already the president. (Obama in Gaza, McCain sending Cindy to Georgia, and other incidents which I'm not dredging up right now.) If it makes you feel any better, I think McCain has been guilty of somewhat more of these than Obama, but I would still want to caution both of them to remember that – like it or not – Bush is still the president and they must wait their turn until they actually get sworn in. This week it's definitely McCain's turn in the barrel to be reminded of this.

Now that I re-read it, though, I see your point. Sorry about that. I was probably being a bit sloppy on a Sunday afternoon. I'll try to do better.

By: ChrisWWW

ChrisWWW — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:15:02 +0000

I would also remind both Senators Obama and McCain that neither of you are currently the President. … Perhaps candidates for an election which is still over two months off should just get out of the way and let them do their jobs rather than turning this into a sideshow.

As you noted, Obama is not going there… so why are you criticizing him like this?

And to be fair to McCain, he likely feels he has to go there, with all the photos circulating of his birthday cake w/ Bush on the day Katrina hit. Damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.

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