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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz,  I&#039;ve got to agree with others here, you have a very unrealistic concept of Europeans.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Homeless drug users in Amsterdam?  Have you ever visited?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz,  I&#39;ve got to agree with others here, you have a very unrealistic concept of Europeans.</p>
<p>Homeless drug users in Amsterdam?  Have you ever visited?</p>
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		<title>By: Joerg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jazz &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Point is, you&#039;re free to educate us to the contrary, but it is certainly the imagery we grow up seeing in the American media.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Feel free to educate yourself. ;-) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t wait for the European socialist nannies to take care of all your educational needs like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jazz </p>
<p>&#8220;Point is, you&#39;re free to educate us to the contrary, but it is certainly the imagery we grow up seeing in the American media.&#8221;</p>
<p>Feel free to educate yourself. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Don&#39;t wait for the European socialist nannies to take care of all your educational needs like.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG. Earth to Jazz. Please take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44130000/gif/_44130605_dollar_euro1_gr416.gif&quot;&gt;THIS&lt;/a&gt;. (dollar vs. euro). I think you have it exactly wrong. American businesses are in trouble and a big part of it is health care costs. On single-payer health care alone (part of the nanny state®) Europeans pay less than half what we do for better health by every measure. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Their economies are stronger and debt far lower because of our corporate nanny state, in which we borrow massively from China ($1 billion a DAY) and hand it out as pork, waste it on wars of choice and lavish it on companies through tax &quot;incentives&quot; and government giveaways to those least in need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG. Earth to Jazz. Please take a look at <a href="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44130000/gif/_44130605_dollar_euro1_gr416.gif">THIS</a>. (dollar vs. euro). I think you have it exactly wrong. American businesses are in trouble and a big part of it is health care costs. On single-payer health care alone (part of the nanny state®) Europeans pay less than half what we do for better health by every measure. </p>
<p>Their economies are stronger and debt far lower because of our corporate nanny state, in which we borrow massively from China ($1 billion a DAY) and hand it out as pork, waste it on wars of choice and lavish it on companies through tax &#8220;incentives&#8221; and government giveaways to those least in need.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No generalization holds true across all borders, Joerg, but it&#039;s certainly an image that we are regularly fed here in America. Amsterdam&#039;s legions of homeless drug users, social programs in France which bordered on socialism for a while. Other nations, of course, are nearly the opposite, such as Germany. Point is, you&#039;re free to educate us to the contrary, but it is certainly the imagery we grow up seeing in the American media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No generalization holds true across all borders, Joerg, but it&#39;s certainly an image that we are regularly fed here in America. Amsterdam&#39;s legions of homeless drug users, social programs in France which bordered on socialism for a while. Other nations, of course, are nearly the opposite, such as Germany. Point is, you&#39;re free to educate us to the contrary, but it is certainly the imagery we grow up seeing in the American media.</p>
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		<title>By: Joerg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jazz&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Europeans, in so many of their countries, have grown up with ultimate nanny states who hand out virtually everything to the detriment of their economies.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please tell me that you tried to make a joke. I hope your understanding of Europe is a bit better than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jazz</p>
<p>&#8220;Europeans, in so many of their countries, have grown up with ultimate nanny states who hand out virtually everything to the detriment of their economies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please tell me that you tried to make a joke. I hope your understanding of Europe is a bit better than this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans have grown spoiled over the last two generations. A significant majority have grown comfortable with the idea of government programs providing bennies to them, but at the same time they don&#039;t care to be discomfited by having to pony up higher taxes to pay for all this largess. The Democrats were always willing to hand out the goodies, but were always ready to tax us more heavily.  Once the Republicans decided to abandon their smaller government ways and hop on the big spending bandwagon, but still stuck to their policy of always cutting taxes, they won over tons of voters. Of course, the bills on those policies are coming due, and that might explain the success Democrats are seeing in the polls this year.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Europeans, in so many of their countries, have grown up with ultimate nanny states who hand out virtually everything to the detriment of their economies. It&#039;s no surprise to me that they would relate to the Democrats more readily. They also tend to have a lot less of a racial and religious divide than the lingering ones we find here.  All of this is just IMHO of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans have grown spoiled over the last two generations. A significant majority have grown comfortable with the idea of government programs providing bennies to them, but at the same time they don&#39;t care to be discomfited by having to pony up higher taxes to pay for all this largess. The Democrats were always willing to hand out the goodies, but were always ready to tax us more heavily.  Once the Republicans decided to abandon their smaller government ways and hop on the big spending bandwagon, but still stuck to their policy of always cutting taxes, they won over tons of voters. Of course, the bills on those policies are coming due, and that might explain the success Democrats are seeing in the polls this year.</p>
<p>Europeans, in so many of their countries, have grown up with ultimate nanny states who hand out virtually everything to the detriment of their economies. It&#39;s no surprise to me that they would relate to the Democrats more readily. They also tend to have a lot less of a racial and religious divide than the lingering ones we find here.  All of this is just IMHO of course.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt if elites in Europe were ever understand the view of middle class, private sector employed whites in the U.S.   It is just not Senator Obama (Ivy leaguers, private school with dhildren in private school) who they do not trust.  They have been the targets of the Democratic Party for decades.  The Democratic Party wants them to pay high taxes, wants to tell them where to live, what to drive, that they cannot own a gun, want to bus their children across town, and what them to shut up about going to church. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Senator Obama and the Democrats would be winning in a rout if they could figure out a way to appeal to the middle class without hurting their core groups such as blacks, Hispanics, elite whites, public sector employees, and the teachers unions.  However, when SEnator Obama makes it quite clear that the teachers unions are more important than academic learning in public schools (but not private schools) he loses support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt if elites in Europe were ever understand the view of middle class, private sector employed whites in the U.S.   It is just not Senator Obama (Ivy leaguers, private school with dhildren in private school) who they do not trust.  They have been the targets of the Democratic Party for decades.  The Democratic Party wants them to pay high taxes, wants to tell them where to live, what to drive, that they cannot own a gun, want to bus their children across town, and what them to shut up about going to church. </p>
<p>Senator Obama and the Democrats would be winning in a rout if they could figure out a way to appeal to the middle class without hurting their core groups such as blacks, Hispanics, elite whites, public sector employees, and the teachers unions.  However, when SEnator Obama makes it quite clear that the teachers unions are more important than academic learning in public schools (but not private schools) he loses support.</p>
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		<title>By: getfreeinsurance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Europeans (Mis)Understand John McCain’s Appeal to US Voters</title>
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		<dc:creator>getfreeinsurance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Europeans (Mis)Understand John McCain’s Appeal to US Voters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Puma Reaction To Palin Pick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puma Reaction To Palin Pick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Europeans (Mis)Understand John McCain’s Appeal to US Voters [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stop US Wars &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Europeans (Mis)Understand John McCain’s Appeal to US Voters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop US Wars &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Europeans (Mis)Understand John McCain’s Appeal to US Voters</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] &#226;??i wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptInstead she makes a list of problems for McCain (his age, the bad shape of US economy, high debts and deficit, two wars) and concludes that a skilled politician like Barack Obama has to lead in the polls, if you take a “sober look at it &#8230; [...]</description>
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