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The Wisdom of Choosing Sarah Palin

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That was the title of the post I did on Joe Biden after Barack Obama chose him to be his running mate for the Democratic President/Vice President ticket. I figured, I might as well have a mini-series or two-parter and use the same title for Arizona Senator and presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain’s VP selection, Alaska Governor and fellow Republican, Sarah Palin.

Let me start with a round-up -because I have been responding to e-mails, tweets, comments and phone calls literally since about 10 am.

Vanity Fair, today, by Dee Dee Myers (this is an excerpt but please read the whole thing, it’s not long):

It’s such a transparently political decision, a double-X Dan Quayle. McCain made the decision to double down on his credentials as a take-no-prisoners reformer. But he did so at the expense of the more important qualifications for a running mate.

It’s not political to say that John McCain turns 72 today. That he’s a cancer survivor. That he spent six years being tortured and abused in a Vietnamese prison camp. Those are the physical realities of his life, and pure and simple, they demanded that he chose a running mate who is ready, really ready. That he put country first. Today, he failed that test.

Worse, when Sarah Palin falls short—and I hope I’m wrong but I think in important ways, such as her debate with Joe Biden, she will—some people will conclude that women can’t cut it. That’s unfair to Sarah Palin—and it’s certainly unfair to the rest of us.

From the Politico, Palin Dissed Job:

Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility of becoming McCain’s ticket mate.

Palin replied: “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question.”

That the VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans? Er, um, that’s not country first, Sarah. But you know, she wasn’t the nominee choice then.

Here’s a phenomenal in-the-moment BlogHer post with comments (but read this one too) that express emotions and opinions that range from ecstasy to anger. Do not skip it, because 99% of the comments are by women – maybe 100%. In today’s world of social media, there is no excuse for generalizing about how women feel when you can read and/or ask for those firsthand, yourself. And even then, I am sorry to say, a lot of media and bloggers get it way wrong anyway – but I figured I’d try so that there’s no excuse based on me.

A more partisan set of comments can be read at this Rightpundits post (but check out this one for the video of her speech today as well as a transcript of McCain’s comments today, all accompanied by the second gendered remark – “sweet,” that I’ve heard today; the first was on NPR’s special coverage when a guest commentator said, after the speech, that Palin brings vivaciousness to the campaign) (if you are wondering what a gendered comment is, think of it this way: would you say that Mitt Romney brings vivaciousness to a campaign? I didn’t think so) which has many photos of Palin and a couple of videos – one with her and Glenn Beck.)

The quotes in this Ohio Daily Blog post by Jeff Coryell track with the Rightpundits’ video of Palin speaking – having studied linguistics, and having blogged about my concerns for Ted Strickland’s speech patterns, I empathize with this critique:

Jonah Goldberg (discussing pros and cons):

    The way she talks. She has something of a native Alaskan’s accent/speaking style. When I heard her speak last month, I was stunned by how parochial she sounds, not substantively, but stylistically.

Eric at Plunderbund does a nice meta of Ohio blogs and the comments have good chat too.

At Huffington Post, my blogging, BlogHer buddy Morra Aarons has a must read item that recalls what happened to the last Gen X female Republican Governor who had babies and mom-duties while serving her state – Massachusetts’ Jane Swift (who was eventually defeated by…Mitt Romney). This episode reminds us of the damned if we do, damned if we don’t bind around women: men use their gender all the time to succeed – think McCain and the might of the military for one – security, protection, and because he was a POW, we see his vulnerability, suffering. But if women express parental concerns, which society still so closely aligns with being a woman, we’re viewed as weak and penalized for placing the work above the child, OR the child above the work. Accordingly, in my comments at Plunderbund, I warn against allowing GOP proxies to have their cake and eat it too by suggesting that Dems are hypocritical if they bring up the working mom versus country first bind. There are many women who write about this better than I do but the fact remains: the bind exists and we have to be honest about. I’m not sure how I feel – whether a mother can be president and place country first and children second – for sure, if there is another parent, yes.

But should she have to? Does she want to? Those are even more important and tougher questions – not to many very personal and on a case by case basis. They’re also the emotional ones people ask when they go to the polls, a la Drew Westen.

Lisa Renee is fielding a variety of views on the choice while trying to remain the fount of info and debate that is Glass City Jungle. But like Eric, I would love to hear how she feels, herself – because of who she is. I hope she will share too, but if not, it’s understood that she isn’t.

Here’s one item on the investigation related to her sister, her brother-in-law and allegations that someone in her administration ordered that the BIL be fired in relation to the divorce and when that didn’t happen she fired the commissioner of the office involved.

Last but not least, and there is so much out there, someone sent me actuarial spreadsheets that I’m told indicate the chance that John McCain could die in the next four years. Honestly, I do not know how to read such things, but I imagine this friend who sent this to me isn’t the only one looking. The friend tells me it says McCain has a 15% chance of dying in the next four years, but I’m not sure how you get that.

The Republican Jewish Coalition says standard stuff but includes this:

As governor of Alaska, Palin has enjoyed a strong working relationship with Alaska’s Jewish community. She has demonstrated sensitivity to the concerns of the community and has been accessible and responsive.

FYI, there are 3,425 Jews in Alaska (there are nearly 80,000 on the East Side of Cleveland) or 0.5% (that’s not 50% but rather 1/2 of 1%) of Alaska’s population (there are between 1.5 and 3% Jews in the U.S. general population).

No comment yet from the National Jewish Democratic Council.

So – what do I really think about Sarah Palin? It’s hard to know – I know extremely little and certainly not much if anything beyond what I’ve read or seen. But I thought a flow of my Twitter tweets as I heard them speak and the NPR folks comment on Diane Rehm might give a good idea:

Eleanor Clift [on Diane Rehm] – can she pass threshold test of her being an instant president – McCain can no longer attack Obama on experience

Gov. Palin has “no stance” on foreign policy – heartbeat away? this is going to be a long 67 days to Nov. 4 http://tinyurl.com/5sus9a

curious to see how The White House Project hails this, will depend on Palin’s record on issues that matter, impact women

ok- I have GOT to say, I am so sorry, but I have to say: for all the terrified of terrorist threat people, Palin must incite EXTREME anxiety

Palin is unknown, internationally & nationally; if military operations are CRITICAL, I don’t see how McCain people can be ok with this pick

at the McCain event right now, they just brought out teen cheerleaders -for real saying Go McCain! total fratboy

apparently McCain uses cheerleaders a lot before he comes out omg http://www.daylife.com/phot…

catch the fearmongering – McCain knows we live in a dangerous world

do VPs really help shake up DC?

I actually think that Huckabee’s senior adviser Charmaine Yoest had something to do with this pick

here’s what Yoest wrote http://tinyurl.com/5ctnmj McCain was hugely problematic for this contingent

Ha! now he mentions women’s suffrage – he didn’t even have a statement on the actual Women’s Equality Day

what’s this pick do for affirmative action? people standing there watching her go past them, thinking, she got it because she’s a woman UGH

do snow machines use a lot of gas? [she said that her husband races them; no wonder she wants to drill more]

there you go already – sorry @acarvin guest just said, as the first thing Palin does is bringing “vivacity” – would never be used for a man

you know the upside is? as women, we CAN show that we do NOT go for candidates because of gender, END OF STORY

she kept her pregnancy a secret for fear of how people might react to her having a Down child?

remember when Edwards got flack for running while Eliz had cancer, and two young kids? how does the VP play w/five kids including newborn?

how does the family values thing fit in – that is not a facetious question – she will have to put country first, no?

does she actually reflect conservative women’s values? how will they feel – that is most important, yes?

I will, without question, have oh so much more long-windedness to expend on this topic. But for now, I stick with my assessment earlier today: this choice is an enormous miscalculation of who votes, who votes for whom, and why.

Cartoon by Daryl Cagle, MSNBC.com

  • Kathryn
    I know, this isn't nice, but I'm in a beeachey mood tonight:

    "The McCain/Palin view of America

    http://wonkette.com/402363/your-first-look-at-m...
  • It would be incorrect to say Mitt Romney brings vivaciousness to a campaign because he doesn't. You might try Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul as more appropriate Republican candidates.
  • StockBoySF
    Kathryn, thanks! It isn't nice but seems fitting for the moment....
  • elrod
    When I first heard the pick I was shocked. I thought right away it was a desperation pick. Now I see more and more evidence trickle in that confirms my initial sentiment. This was the biggest political mistake in a long time.
  • StockBoySF
    "I warn against allowing GOP proxies to have their cake and eat it too by suggesting that Dems are hypocritical if they bring up the working mom versus country first bind. There are many women who write about this better than I do but the fact remains: the bind exists and we have to be honest about. I’m not sure how I feel - whether a mother can be president and place country first and children second - for sure, if there is another parent, yes."

    Jill, thanks for the round up. I think a very real discussion to have to (and was later mentioned in regards to Edwards) is the role of parenting. It's one thing to work in a corporation and take time off to be with your children (or to leave work early for a parent / teacher conference) but it's quite another thing to be president, take the oath of office to protect and defend the country and then have your parenting responsibilities interfere. Because the VP is chosen to step in for the president if the president should become incapacitated, the same holds true for the VP and perhaps other high government officials.

    While it is one thing to have children, it is quite another thing to have toddlers who need extra attention. Does Mr. Palin intend to give up his salmon fisherman career to be a "stay at home" Dad in DC?

    We expect our leaders to be upstanding citizens who can remain focused on the job of running the country and not be distracted by the demands of a young family. (Probably one of the reasons the Founding Fathers wanted a president of a certain age- to ensure he had the maturity and life experience to be an effective leader.)

    So while I don't believe a woman or a man should give up their family to be president, I do think that a woman or man needs to take the responsibilities of the office of president seriously. If they take the highest oath in the land to serve and protect our country, they need to be in a position to take that oath seriously and do the best job they can. If they are unable to meet the demands of the office, then they need to decline this service until they are ready to do so. After all, their performance in office directly impacts the lives of over 300 million US citizens and to a lesser degree billions around the world, particularly when we are involved in war and seeking allies to send troops to support ours.

    I really don't know if the Palins are up for this task. It's one thing to be a woman governor of a state with a tiny population, and married to a commercial fisherman. But it's another thing to decide whether or not to go to war with Russia, a nuclear power (and this, going from Alaska governor to making decisions about going to war with Russia, could literally happen overnight for Sarah Palin).
  • Silhouette
    She can do as good a job as anyone I'd imagine. You aren't going to get anywhere by nit-picking her fitness for the job. It could be argued that no one is perfect for the office of President. But with Palin, the raw material thusfar looks pretty good.

    I mean, she's pretty bad-ass, hunter and all. Eats moose-stew fer crying out loud. And the saying "tougher in Alaska" ain't just blowing smoke either. Every single person I've met who has spent any time up there is....different...in a refreshing way. They are very grounded in the reality of survival and hardship. If I had to select a state to randomly pick anyone to occupy the Whitehouse in a pinch, the best raw material comes from Alaskans. Anyone who's met one or spent a lot of time there knows exactly what I'm talking about.

    No, the obama strategy should not be attacking her fitness for office. The pot-calling-the-kettle-black never works out well anyway. And neither should they touch the fact that she's a woman, even though many know that the Obama campaign is the embodiment of "women have no place running for president". No matter what he gives lip service to the contrary.

    I think Obama has met his match. Ironic that it is a woman. : )
  • Anna
    I have to confess that my first reaction when I heard about her family situation was how can a mother in her right mind with a 5 month old special needs child hit the campaign trail being away for all intents and purposes the next 9 weeks solid? I say this as the mother of a healthy toddler who prior to starting my family traveled constantly for my job and changed to a non-traveling job when I knew our little one was on the way. Perhaps my priorities are different from the lady representing the so-called "family values" party?
  • JSpencer
    The more I find out about Palin, and the more I consider the impulsive "rationale" behind the pick, the more unsettling I find it - not because I'm concerned about McCain/Palin being a threat to the D's, but because it demonstrates another rash, cynical, and not well considered decision on the part of a powerful republican - a decision that could adversely effect the country. We've seen many variations of this movie before haven't we? Think about all the early appointments made by GWB, not chosen for expertise, but for "other" reasons. This is definitely not a choice made with an eye toward national unity.
  • BDavid
    Governor Palin supported Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. Buchanan's name sets off more blinking lights than an airport runway. Associating herself with this man is evidence of either her lack of knowledge or her agreement with his disgusting beliefs.

    BDavid
  • denisedh
    My thoughts exactly. I meant this to go under Anna's comment, sorry.
  • Pattonguy, good point, thank you. :)
  • RememberNovember
    If McCain picked Ron Paul instead of NeoBarbie, I'd be sorely conflicted. Such as it is, this short-sighted, long barreled moose hunter may fly with the minority of slavering fundementalists, but once she opens her mouth it's over, Johnny. At least McCain can pronounce "nuclear".
    Palin is not Obam's match- what has Palin done for this country? Served on any Foreign relations committee? Voted on any key votes? The arguments that she is equal to Obama for her 18 month Mulligan'ed shoe in to the Governorship of a state that has less people than NYC or Chicago is WEAKSAUCE. Stop grabbing at straw barbies. It wa a panic move because Unkle Karl told him not to pick LIE berman.
  • Thanks, Kathryn. Yeah - I confess, I find the 72-44 age thing a bit creepy - I know that's not right, but it was a reaction I felt when I saw her very awkwardly kiss him yesterday at the rally. Of course, that was before I knew that he'd only met her formally once and then clandestinely another time, all in the last 6 mos. I've got lots to write about this pick but again, I feel it's a huge miscalculation because frankly, Republicans who go for it show their shallowness either way - either they vote for her because she is a woman and will help McCain win, or they are voting for him and are ignoring her lack of readiness, on many fronts.

    When Bush/Cheney came in, I might not like them or agree with their politics, at all, but I didn't fear that Cheney would only pass laws that were good for Wyoming. Palin knows extremely little outside of AK and is on the record saying that she would need to believe that the VP job would be fruitful for Alaskans. No, no no.

    Ok - I will stop myself for now. :)
  • Elrod, I agree but GOD FORBID if McCain is elected and Palin has to become president at some point, we are completely wrong - because if we are right, well, not even God will be able to help us.
  • I mean this when I say this, Stockboy, I could not say what you just wrote any better. I agree 100%. Thanks.
  • Silhouette - would you take raw crude and put it in your car? Would you give your beloved the piece of rock that miners pull out of the diamond mines as an engagement token?

    I agree - this woman has chutzpah and skill and beliefs in line with the GOP. If I were someone who believed what she believes, I would be thrilled EXCEPT THAT the same argument that those of us left of center applied to not choosing Hillary Clinton (not this woman) is available to women on the right of center: not this woman. Why not this woman? For many reasons - but you cannot shut down the option of saying not this woman because...she's a woman.
  • Anna - I think what you felt was felt by parents everywhere - maybe not all parents, but certainly many parents, ALL along the political spectrum, and perhaps even more so on the right - given that family values thing. As I've written, however, we have to be careful not to allow the spin to be, headed toward women and women who call themselves feminists in particular, that "Oh ho! we give you a working woman and now you don't want her!? What hypocrites!" We can't let that be the calling cry - we MUST own this discussions and speak out. This discussion has been so driven underground and by the media - let's use this time to set the record straight and set the foundation for gender-neutral criticism of how work and families should be managed and treated, on all levels.
  • JSpencer - that's a really good point w/backup - thank you. You are really right. This decision, even how it was made, echoes other choices McCain has made during his campaign. You know, people vilified Hillary Clinton for wanting this presidency so badly and going after it at all costs, but truly, it is McCain who is showing that kind of willful disregard for logic and this country and the voters - and himself, frankly. Wow. Thanks again for this comment - very profound actually.
  • Thanks, BDavid - I didn't know that. I did hear about how Chris Matthews had to correct Pat Buchanan - now that's some opposite day stuff! From NYT's The Caucus:

    "5:16 p.m. | Who You Calling a Girl? From Katharine Q. Seelye: Pat Buchanan on MSNBC just referred to Ms. Palin as a “girl.” And Chris Matthews, who was accused of being sexist during the Democratic primary because of remarks he made about Hillary Rodham Clinton on the air, corrected Mr. Buchanan, telling him that Ms. Palin is a woman, not a girl."
  • elrod
    Whatever you think of Palin as a person, she has established no vision for the country. It isn't just that she's inexperienced - and I don't buy the argument that small-style executive experience trumps legislative experience - but that she seems to never have given thought to issues of national leadership. She has literally no profile on national issues. Her only political history of national import is supporting Pat Buchanan's 1996 and 2000 campaign. That's her prerogative. The real question is why did McCain think she could step in at any moment and serve as President?

    This reflects very poorly on John McCain's judgment and leadership. Whatever he does, he does not put "country first."
  • Elrod, thanks - that is absolutely true. Great point. Not to mention frightening re: how McCain could have made this pick - truly.
  • outspoken
    Okay, so McCain is free to pick who he chooses and I'm not voting for him anyway, and I am all for working mothers, since I am one myself. I feel it is very selfish of Palin to accept the nomination considering the fact that her newborn baby is a special needs baby with downs syndrome. So she has 4 other kids and a husband at home to take care of this baby, but it is a mother's responsibility to be there for her child in a critical moment like this. How is she going to have the time to run for VP or if she makes VP to take proper motherly care of her child. It is not fair to her child nor is it fair to the US if her thoughts are elsewhere if McCain wins. Also, what extra danger does that put her son in when he is deployed to Iraq and the enemy even gets an idea of who he is and who is mother is if McCain wins. I'm just highly disappointed in his pick and her acceptance.
  • Outspoken - I agree. What you describe are the family values that every parent considers, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum. It is beyond cavalier to throw them aside now.
  • Ricorun
    I agree with JSpencer and elrod. The character and qualifications of Palin, however they come to be judged, is a concern. But that is only secondary to the concern about what it says about McCain's decision-making. That Palin was a last-minute pick is not a problem in itself -- but only if it can be assumed she was properly vetted. If she wasn't, that IS a problem. It reflects recklessness, an inclination to make important decisions on the spur of the moment without careful consideration of the consequences. I would hope that's not a quality anyone wants in a president -- especially at this point in time.
  • I believe it is both but certainly reckless - I just read that his campaign is headed to AK to investigate the "troopergate" investigations of her in her state. Me thinks that that should have been done, oh, at least last week?
  • Ricorun
    jillmz: I just read that his campaign is headed to AK to investigate the "troopergate" investigations of her in her state.

    Oh dear. Are you serious? If that's true that's exceedingly damaging for McCain.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    Also, when it comes to arguments about her experience let's be honest about Alaska. Abandon the romantic view of the state and it's inhabitants for a bit. A blog on the Dallas Morning News site points out something that occurred to me pretty quickly.

    There are 16 mayors in the U.S. that have more constituents than the entire state. Heck, the Kansas City metro area has 3 times as many people as Alaska. In addition something not mentioned in the article is that governors of Alaska don't have anything approaching the fiscal concerns of other governors. The amazing amount of revenue the state derives from oil and mineral leases makes it completely atypical among the states. No other state has that gigantic flow of revenue into the state coffers that allows it to not only not have an income tax but also not have a sales tax. And while Palin may have decried the road to nowhere and some other earmarks does she have a record of opposing the huge amount of pork that Stevens and Young have been bringing home to Alaska that wasn't as well publicized and wasteful? That certainly helped the state economically when they already had that amazing income stream. No, I don't think that Sarah Palin has faced anything like the challenges other governors have faced but I also think that the Obama campaign doesn't need to go there a lot for these facts to come out.
  • Yes Ricorun, I am serious - actually someone who I don't know if she wants to be named sent me the tip and when I googled it to check it out, there were only three links to the info but that was two hours ago so there maybe more now - MyDD found it by following a local Alaskan paper - probably very wise for those who want to follow Palin and McCain.

    I would also guess that this whole rumor about whether she pretended to be pregnant to protect her daughter will also be investigated by McCain's people once they are up there. It should be easy enough to put to rest if it's false with birth certificates, hospital records and so on.
  • Jim, totally agree. To say that she's been living in her own private Alaska is an understatement. I even wonder how much her family has ever been out of the state, let alone her. I read something that quoted her as saying in March 2007, that she didn't think about Iraq because she needed to think about her job as governor - that was not long after she took office. I cannot imagine Ohio's governor Ted Strickland giving an answer like that.

    And as you say she lives in an oil rich state - how could she not be keeping up on Iraq?
  • Jim_Satterfield
    According to her bio her bachelor's degree in journalism is from Idaho. I think that's probably the longest she's been out of the state.
  • outspoken
    I lived in Anchorage for 6 years and two of it was out of the military working for a non profit in the oil and gas industry. I luckily moved out of state just before Murkowski became governor and Sarah Palin was a nobody besides serving on the town council. She wouldn't have made it to Governor if it was not for the endorsements or votes from the people she has supposedly been citing "corruption." You do not make it in that state without the good ole boy system unless it has changed since I lived there. She has always been a nice person from what I remember from the few times I had met her, but she is definately not qualified to deal with the US and being VP. They always say, don't bite the hand that feeds you. I guarantee there will be some major issues to come up concerning Stevens and the other "big ones" in the oil and gas industry concerning her run for VP.
  • Jim - yeah - the dates and times - there's more there - nothing jives (1984 beauty queen award, off to college but she moved around college a bit, degree in 1987 marries high school sweetheart then - I read she eloped - why - again, not untoward - I have a relative who eloped too - but what was the reason - this is all open) . That does NOT mean there's something untoward, but for goodness sakes, even superficially, for all the whining about Clinton and experience and Obama and experience and senators don't make it to the White House, you'd think we would get a far more media-tight blogger-proof resume from them before announcing her.
  • Thanks outspoken. The woman has skills - some very valuable skills. But so do you - so do I - so does my town's mayor, so does Bobby Jindal. It is so upsidedown world to read true red conservatives argue that she is the best choice to be president if McCain were to be incapacitated or otherwise no longer the president -how can that be?
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