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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sillhoutte, regarding your &quot;newsflash-people like Kathryn vote&quot;  if you are f_cking implying I am going to vote for McCain because he lost it and picked some know-nothing beauty queen you are beyond la-la land.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know what your sick twisted little game is.  If it is to get people to support Hillary, you utterly and completely failed.  I was trying to be polite, find some common ground  by giving Hilary some sincere praise, but the fact that she attracts people like you makes her look far worse in my eyes than she did before.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since you are really Karl Rove I guess you succeeded to some extent, I would probably vote for a Bush in 2012 rather than a Clinton, but if you think I am voting for a Republican this term you are out of your mind.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;P.S. Newsflash- Sillhouette, want to know the thing that I really hate about the Clintons?  The fact that  Bill&#039;s total inability to keep it zipped and Hillary&#039;s enabling of it led directly to W&#039;s Presidency.  If God forbid, Hillary somehow managed to get to the White House, her term would be followed by James Dobson&#039;s.  Boy, women would be in great shape then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sillhoutte, regarding your &#8220;newsflash-people like Kathryn vote&#8221;  if you are f_cking implying I am going to vote for McCain because he lost it and picked some know-nothing beauty queen you are beyond la-la land.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know what your sick twisted little game is.  If it is to get people to support Hillary, you utterly and completely failed.  I was trying to be polite, find some common ground  by giving Hilary some sincere praise, but the fact that she attracts people like you makes her look far worse in my eyes than she did before.</p>
<p>Since you are really Karl Rove I guess you succeeded to some extent, I would probably vote for a Bush in 2012 rather than a Clinton, but if you think I am voting for a Republican this term you are out of your mind.</p>
<p>P.S. Newsflash- Sillhouette, want to know the thing that I really hate about the Clintons?  The fact that  Bill&#39;s total inability to keep it zipped and Hillary&#39;s enabling of it led directly to W&#39;s Presidency.  If God forbid, Hillary somehow managed to get to the White House, her term would be followed by James Dobson&#39;s.  Boy, women would be in great shape then.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveK</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22230/reflections-on-the-palin-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-120861</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;McCain surprised everyone and made a great choice. This is already shown to be so by the prompt &lt;b&gt;dirtbag-to-hyperventilatory reaction by the childish play-pen crowd&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re a real class act &#039;Mr. -167&#039;... a real class act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>McCain surprised everyone and made a great choice. This is already shown to be so by the prompt <b>dirtbag-to-hyperventilatory reaction by the childish play-pen crowd</b>.</i>&#8220;</p>
<p>You&#39;re a real class act &#39;Mr. -167&#39;&#8230; a real class act.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22230/reflections-on-the-palin-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-120855</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kritt11, 2 questions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you judge the qualities of a candidate by those of their state?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you think Alaska is just an average state comparable to all others as if there were no differences in geography, natural reasources, government owned lands, endangered species, physical seperation from the 49 other states, and the fact that it is the only State that borders 2 foreign nations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kritt11, 2 questions.</p>
<p>Do you judge the qualities of a candidate by those of their state?</p>
<p>Do you think Alaska is just an average state comparable to all others as if there were no differences in geography, natural reasources, government owned lands, endangered species, physical seperation from the 49 other states, and the fact that it is the only State that borders 2 foreign nations?</p>
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		<title>By: joep</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22230/reflections-on-the-palin-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-120854</link>
		<dc:creator>joep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right--this pick was meant to appeal to the Republican base--that 25% of the population that still believes that W is a good president.   Independants and Democrats--I dont&#039; think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right&#8211;this pick was meant to appeal to the Republican base&#8211;that 25% of the population that still believes that W is a good president.   Independants and Democrats&#8211;I dont&#39; think so.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22230/reflections-on-the-palin-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-120847</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS- If you favor small government, how can you be happy that the governor of the state that receives the most federal funds is the VP pick?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can&#039;t deal with her views on creationism, environmentalism and abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS- If you favor small government, how can you be happy that the governor of the state that receives the most federal funds is the VP pick?</p>
<p>I can&#39;t deal with her views on creationism, environmentalism and abortion.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bbbbbut....but he&#039;s The Chosen One!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How could he possibly lose?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Answer: Palin.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hillary Clinton 2012.  I&#039;m on photoshop messing with campaign signs already..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No sense in not getting a jump on the inevitable..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bbbbbut&#8230;.but he&#39;s The Chosen One!</p>
<p>How could he possibly lose?</p>
<p>Answer: Palin.</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton 2012.  I&#39;m on photoshop messing with campaign signs already..</p>
<p>No sense in not getting a jump on the inevitable..</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain surprised everyone and made a great choice.  This is already shown to be so by the prompt dirtbag-to-hyperventilatory reaction by the childish play-pen crowd.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They leap to &quot;inexperienced,&quot; even though she, the #2 Republican, has more experience that matters than Obama, the #1 Democrat.  You&#039;re chumps; try again!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What will come next is the lack of support for her as an accomplished female, a true pioneer; she&#039;ll be attacked in the most vulgar manner just as Thomas, a black pioneer in this country was similarly attacked, for being traitors against the PC and Democratic Party goose-stepping plantation.  If you thought the sometimes vulgar and disgusting attacks (including frequent sexist attacks) on Clinton by the Obama people wanting her out of the way were bad, just wait; we&#039;re seeing rumblings on the Left, in society&#039;s lower GI tract, already threatening much worse sewage to come against McCain&#039;s Vice President.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Add to that the jealousy over McCain and his VP stealing the show from Obama and his lurid Britney-Spears-style political-tainment extravaganza last night and the clear threat seen by the few on the left with their heads not still up their asses that with this choice, McCain and the GOP have surprised everyone by indicating they are far from dead, after all, and there may be a contest this year, after all.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Obama people so often are children (as some of the writers on this site have demonstrated, including Stickings frequently).  What was one of the problem with the Clinton voters?   Entitlement when it came to the nomination.  The Obama children (whom we saw to great, though in ways embarrassing, effect last night) are no different.  Bush&#039;s adminstration is weak and discredited; McCain has been weak; everything pointed to Democratic victory provided the Dems would not be overconfident.  But McCain and the GOP have changed that.  So much of the initial stupid as well as childish (and already threatening hateful) reaction by the Left is due to that same sense of childish, conceited entitlement -- they have expected to win this election this year, and now they&#039;re starting to throw a tantrum because it&#039;s not guaranteed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Way to go, McCain.  He chose a VP that puts life back into the GOP this year as well as in to his campaign (and the convention, if the GOP is smart), and also puts Obama *** FOURTH *** among the four executive candidates when it comes to qualifications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain surprised everyone and made a great choice.  This is already shown to be so by the prompt dirtbag-to-hyperventilatory reaction by the childish play-pen crowd.</p>
<p>They leap to &#8220;inexperienced,&#8221; even though she, the #2 Republican, has more experience that matters than Obama, the #1 Democrat.  You&#39;re chumps; try again!</p>
<p>What will come next is the lack of support for her as an accomplished female, a true pioneer; she&#39;ll be attacked in the most vulgar manner just as Thomas, a black pioneer in this country was similarly attacked, for being traitors against the PC and Democratic Party goose-stepping plantation.  If you thought the sometimes vulgar and disgusting attacks (including frequent sexist attacks) on Clinton by the Obama people wanting her out of the way were bad, just wait; we&#39;re seeing rumblings on the Left, in society&#39;s lower GI tract, already threatening much worse sewage to come against McCain&#39;s Vice President.</p>
<p>Add to that the jealousy over McCain and his VP stealing the show from Obama and his lurid Britney-Spears-style political-tainment extravaganza last night and the clear threat seen by the few on the left with their heads not still up their asses that with this choice, McCain and the GOP have surprised everyone by indicating they are far from dead, after all, and there may be a contest this year, after all.</p>
<p>The Obama people so often are children (as some of the writers on this site have demonstrated, including Stickings frequently).  What was one of the problem with the Clinton voters?   Entitlement when it came to the nomination.  The Obama children (whom we saw to great, though in ways embarrassing, effect last night) are no different.  Bush&#39;s adminstration is weak and discredited; McCain has been weak; everything pointed to Democratic victory provided the Dems would not be overconfident.  But McCain and the GOP have changed that.  So much of the initial stupid as well as childish (and already threatening hateful) reaction by the Left is due to that same sense of childish, conceited entitlement &#8212; they have expected to win this election this year, and now they&#39;re starting to throw a tantrum because it&#39;s not guaranteed.</p>
<p>Way to go, McCain.  He chose a VP that puts life back into the GOP this year as well as in to his campaign (and the convention, if the GOP is smart), and also puts Obama *** FOURTH *** among the four executive candidates when it comes to qualifications.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing about the Clinton Presidency was dangerous. A democracy which has devolved so much that last name and fame is as important as both experience AND judgment is dangerous. It was no affront to FDR to pass an amendment after him limiting the Presidency to two terms. Having a single person in control of a nation for term after term has inherent drawbacks. It&#039;s why we don&#039;t vote for benevolent kings. New blood, new ideas are generally good. But of course this is only one factor, which is why I would have voted for Clinton II if she had been the nominee. (And, to answer your question, I was seriously considering Richardson and would have given Biden a closer look if he had still been around by the time my state came along (in addition to Obama and Clinton).)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing about the Clinton Presidency was dangerous. A democracy which has devolved so much that last name and fame is as important as both experience AND judgment is dangerous. It was no affront to FDR to pass an amendment after him limiting the Presidency to two terms. Having a single person in control of a nation for term after term has inherent drawbacks. It&#39;s why we don&#39;t vote for benevolent kings. New blood, new ideas are generally good. But of course this is only one factor, which is why I would have voted for Clinton II if she had been the nominee. (And, to answer your question, I was seriously considering Richardson and would have given Biden a closer look if he had still been around by the time my state came along (in addition to Obama and Clinton).)</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a bit ironic choosing the governor of Americas number 1 welfare state.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alaskans receive more federal dollars per capita than any other state.  And Alaska get&#039;s 90% of the oil and mineral royalties from federal land while every other state only gets 50%.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And she&#039;s already hinting that she&#039;ll use the position to provide even more wilderness welfare.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IOKIYAAR strikes again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s a bit ironic choosing the governor of Americas number 1 welfare state.</p>
<p>Alaskans receive more federal dollars per capita than any other state.  And Alaska get&#39;s 90% of the oil and mineral royalties from federal land while every other state only gets 50%.</p>
<p>And she&#39;s already hinting that she&#39;ll use the position to provide even more wilderness welfare.</p>
<blockquote><p>We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here</p></blockquote>
<p>IOKIYAAR strikes again.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pacatrue.  Please delineate how the Clintons, either one, were &quot;dangerous&quot; to society.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it that they cared about the poor?  Created 22 million new jobs?  Brought our nation to the best economy ever and produced a SURPLUS budget?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If that&#039;s dangerous, then bring it on ...I have a taste for that type of danger....lol...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So neither Clinton nor Obama was your top pick.  Who was it then?  Ron Paul?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think this thread is about the democratic vs republican VP picks...but hey, the subjects do tend to wander a bit..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pacatrue.  Please delineate how the Clintons, either one, were &#8220;dangerous&#8221; to society.</p>
<p>Is it that they cared about the poor?  Created 22 million new jobs?  Brought our nation to the best economy ever and produced a SURPLUS budget?</p>
<p>If that&#39;s dangerous, then bring it on &#8230;I have a taste for that type of danger&#8230;.lol&#8230;</p>
<p>So neither Clinton nor Obama was your top pick.  Who was it then?  Ron Paul?</p>
<p>I think this thread is about the democratic vs republican VP picks&#8230;but hey, the subjects do tend to wander a bit..</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that I think your comment&#039;s the first time I&#039;ve ever been considered a political conservative in my life. So I&#039;m pretty stoked to get my moderate credentials beefed up again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that I think your comment&#39;s the first time I&#39;ve ever been considered a political conservative in my life. So I&#39;m pretty stoked to get my moderate credentials beefed up again.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s funny, silhouette, is how you make judgments about people you&#039;ve never met due to your love of conspiracies. The first political rally I ever attended was Clinton-Gore 1992. I voted for Clinton both times and do not regret the decision. He was a fine President from my point of view. The fact that Clinton did a nice job does not stop me from also worrying with Kathryn when a nation of 300 million people was showing evidence of not being able to choose a single citizen who didn&#039;t have Bush or Clinton as their last name. Such an oligarchy is very dangerous to democracy in our nation. And, for the record, I would have voted for Hillary Clinton if she had beat out Obama. She likely would have been a fine President as well, just not my top pick. (Obama was not my top pick either. I was wavering.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#39;s funny, silhouette, is how you make judgments about people you&#39;ve never met due to your love of conspiracies. The first political rally I ever attended was Clinton-Gore 1992. I voted for Clinton both times and do not regret the decision. He was a fine President from my point of view. The fact that Clinton did a nice job does not stop me from also worrying with Kathryn when a nation of 300 million people was showing evidence of not being able to choose a single citizen who didn&#39;t have Bush or Clinton as their last name. Such an oligarchy is very dangerous to democracy in our nation. And, for the record, I would have voted for Hillary Clinton if she had beat out Obama. She likely would have been a fine President as well, just not my top pick. (Obama was not my top pick either. I was wavering.)</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leonidas,&lt;br&gt;Turns out she lied about not supporting that &quot;bridge to nowhere.&quot;  Woops!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_08/014466.php&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/indiv...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonidas,<br />Turns out she lied about not supporting that &#8220;bridge to nowhere.&#8221;  Woops!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_08/014466.php">http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/indiv&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Newsflash: Hillary wasn&#039;t ever President.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*****&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What&#039;s funny is that is coming from someone who might likely would&#039;ve backed the continuous accusation all throughout the Clinton administration that Hillary was indeed the sitting president then; people&#039;s main objection to her in fact back in the day.  She had every bit to do with Bill&#039;s success and everyone knew it then.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Odd, how convenience provides a different description... : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Newsflash: Hillary wasn&#39;t ever President.&#8221;</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>What&#39;s funny is that is coming from someone who might likely would&#39;ve backed the continuous accusation all throughout the Clinton administration that Hillary was indeed the sitting president then; people&#39;s main objection to her in fact back in the day.  She had every bit to do with Bill&#39;s success and everyone knew it then.</p>
<p>Odd, how convenience provides a different description&#8230; : )</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin is a candidate who has enacted change, not merely talked about it.  She has actual achievements in ethics reforwm and curbing wasteful spending.  The Obama-Biden  ticket lacks this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin is a candidate who has enacted change, not merely talked about it.  She has actual achievements in ethics reforwm and curbing wasteful spending.  The Obama-Biden  ticket lacks this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s going to be very interesting to see how this pick is going to pan out. Palin definitely does bring some distinct positives to McCain&#039;s campaign. But there are also significant down sides. As far as I can tell social conservatives are truly delighted. But they were going to vote for McCain anyway (begrudgingly perhaps, but they were). I can see where women would be excited on first blush, but I wonder how many of those, other than the ones who were going to vote for McCain already, will feel about her once they get familiar with her positions. From what little I know, her biggest claim to fame is ethics reform, and has done well in her short time in Juneau cleaning up the political cesspool there. Then again, she has that abuse of power investigation hanging over her head. I understand she&#039;s cooperating fully, and doesn&#039;t think it will go anywhere, but that&#039;s no guarantee. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, I have no idea what kind of campaigner she&#039;s likely to be (I didn&#039;t hear her speech this morning). If she turns out to be a loose cannon, or a gaffe machine, or if they get her talking about creationism or something, she could sink McCain fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#39;s going to be very interesting to see how this pick is going to pan out. Palin definitely does bring some distinct positives to McCain&#39;s campaign. But there are also significant down sides. As far as I can tell social conservatives are truly delighted. But they were going to vote for McCain anyway (begrudgingly perhaps, but they were). I can see where women would be excited on first blush, but I wonder how many of those, other than the ones who were going to vote for McCain already, will feel about her once they get familiar with her positions. From what little I know, her biggest claim to fame is ethics reform, and has done well in her short time in Juneau cleaning up the political cesspool there. Then again, she has that abuse of power investigation hanging over her head. I understand she&#39;s cooperating fully, and doesn&#39;t think it will go anywhere, but that&#39;s no guarantee. </p>
<p>Finally, I have no idea what kind of campaigner she&#39;s likely to be (I didn&#39;t hear her speech this morning). If she turns out to be a loose cannon, or a gaffe machine, or if they get her talking about creationism or something, she could sink McCain fast.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newsflash: Hillary wasn&#039;t ever President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newsflash: Hillary wasn&#39;t ever President.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we are all incredibly eager for someone other than who brought our economy to the strongest it&#039;s been in US history.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I mean, that goes without saying.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Newsflash:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;people like Kathyrn vote...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we are all incredibly eager for someone other than who brought our economy to the strongest it&#39;s been in US history.</p>
<p>I mean, that goes without saying.</p>
<p>Newsflash:</p>
<p>people like Kathyrn vote&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sillhoutte, newsflash, not all women &quot;love&quot; Hillary.  I know plenty that were incredibly eager for someone other than a Bush or Clinton in the White House.  If nothing else, we will be spared that this term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sillhoutte, newsflash, not all women &#8220;love&#8221; Hillary.  I know plenty that were incredibly eager for someone other than a Bush or Clinton in the White House.  If nothing else, we will be spared that this term.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been saying it in other comments, but I&#039;ll try it here as well. Palin has a lot of positive personal characteristics that will appeal to many Americans, just as Obama does, though they are very different stories. (Indeed, with both people, both would have been personally admired by many more until it became obligatory to hate them due to party affiliation. I have a feeling that Palin has a good 20% less support from Dems today than she did yesterday without having changed at all.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That said, there are some flaws that can quickly be brought up, such as voting against polar bears and consistently for oil in a supposed new era of alternative energies and when 20% of American children have cuddly polar bear stuffed animals somewhere in their room.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The proof will be in the pudding here. Can she hang with Biden in a debate? Can she seem thoroughly knowledgeable and prepared on a large range of national issues that she&#039;s never had to deal with as a governor? Obama and McCain have had over a year to prep for this. She&#039;s had one day to get up to speed? Not saying she can&#039;t; just pointing out it&#039;s tough.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anecdotally, I just got off the phone with my father who I believe has voted Republican down the line probably since birth, who shocked me by saying he and step-mom were contemplating going for Obama, as they viewed McCain as a screw up, but at least the step-mom was elated by the pick of Palin and has immediately moved firmly back into the McCain camp. If she was the target politically for this choice, it worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve been saying it in other comments, but I&#39;ll try it here as well. Palin has a lot of positive personal characteristics that will appeal to many Americans, just as Obama does, though they are very different stories. (Indeed, with both people, both would have been personally admired by many more until it became obligatory to hate them due to party affiliation. I have a feeling that Palin has a good 20% less support from Dems today than she did yesterday without having changed at all.)</p>
<p>That said, there are some flaws that can quickly be brought up, such as voting against polar bears and consistently for oil in a supposed new era of alternative energies and when 20% of American children have cuddly polar bear stuffed animals somewhere in their room.</p>
<p>The proof will be in the pudding here. Can she hang with Biden in a debate? Can she seem thoroughly knowledgeable and prepared on a large range of national issues that she&#39;s never had to deal with as a governor? Obama and McCain have had over a year to prep for this. She&#39;s had one day to get up to speed? Not saying she can&#39;t; just pointing out it&#39;s tough.</p>
<p>Anecdotally, I just got off the phone with my father who I believe has voted Republican down the line probably since birth, who shocked me by saying he and step-mom were contemplating going for Obama, as they viewed McCain as a screw up, but at least the step-mom was elated by the pick of Palin and has immediately moved firmly back into the McCain camp. If she was the target politically for this choice, it worked.</p>
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