Comments on: McCain’s Desperation VP Pick http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:05:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133591 kritt11 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:36:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133591 Uh- I guess you know it all daveinboca--- except maybe who you're talking<br>to, lol- I'm not an unsophisticated fella-- I'm a middle-aged, well-educated<br>lady who does not think a dispute over fishing rights is in the same league<br>as dealing with 2 wars, international terrorism, world wide economic<br>collapse from an increasing scarcity of resources, reoccurence of cold war<br>tensions, holding off the burgeoning military and economic power of China,<br>trying to mediate a peaceful settlement between Israel and Palestine, etc<br>etc. But if you want to think that it is, pls don't let me stop you. Uh- I guess you know it all daveinboca— except maybe who you're talking
to, lol- I'm not an unsophisticated fella– I'm a middle-aged, well-educated
lady who does not think a dispute over fishing rights is in the same league
as dealing with 2 wars, international terrorism, world wide economic
collapse from an increasing scarcity of resources, reoccurence of cold war
tensions, holding off the burgeoning military and economic power of China,
trying to mediate a peaceful settlement between Israel and Palestine, etc
etc. But if you want to think that it is, pls don't let me stop you.

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133593 kritt11 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:36:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133593 Uh- I guess you know it all daveinboca--- except maybe who you're talking<br>to, lol- I'm not an unsophisticated fella-- I'm a middle-aged, well-educated<br>lady who does not think a dispute over fishing rights is in the same league<br>as dealing with 2 wars, international terrorism, world wide economic<br>collapse from an increasing scarcity of resources, reoccurence of cold war<br>tensions, holding off the burgeoning military and economic power of China,<br>trying to mediate a peaceful settlement between Israel and Palestine, etc<br>etc. But if you want to think that it is, pls don't let me stop you. Uh- I guess you know it all daveinboca— except maybe who you're talking
to, lol- I'm not an unsophisticated fella– I'm a middle-aged, well-educated
lady who does not think a dispute over fishing rights is in the same league
as dealing with 2 wars, international terrorism, world wide economic
collapse from an increasing scarcity of resources, reoccurence of cold war
tensions, holding off the burgeoning military and economic power of China,
trying to mediate a peaceful settlement between Israel and Palestine, etc
etc. But if you want to think that it is, pls don't let me stop you.

]]> By: pacatrue http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133586 pacatrue Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:09:01 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133586 daveinboca: "I'm sure this is all over your head..." and "I guess an unsophisticated fella like yourself..." and yet in the last paragraph, "typical mind-boggling condescension... is part of the Dem approach."<br><br>Pot, meet kettle. If your first two comments aren't condescending, I don't know what is.<br><br>But I'm going to stop fighting with other commenters. I hate taking time trying to score points on one another. I want to learn about the best way to govern our nation. by learning from all of you.... daveinboca: “I'm sure this is all over your head…” and “I guess an unsophisticated fella like yourself…” and yet in the last paragraph, “typical mind-boggling condescension… is part of the Dem approach.”

Pot, meet kettle. If your first two comments aren't condescending, I don't know what is.

But I'm going to stop fighting with other commenters. I hate taking time trying to score points on one another. I want to learn about the best way to govern our nation. by learning from all of you….

]]> By: pacatrue http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133590 pacatrue Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:09:01 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133590 daveinboca: "I'm sure this is all over your head..." and "I guess an unsophisticated fella like yourself..." and yet in the last paragraph, "typical mind-boggling condescension... is part of the Dem approach."<br><br>Pot, meet kettle. If your first two comments aren't condescending, I don't know what is.<br><br>But I'm going to stop fighting with other commenters. I hate taking time trying to score points on one another. I want to learn about the best way to govern our nation. by learning from all of you.... daveinboca: “I'm sure this is all over your head…” and “I guess an unsophisticated fella like yourself…” and yet in the last paragraph, “typical mind-boggling condescension… is part of the Dem approach.”

Pot, meet kettle. If your first two comments aren't condescending, I don't know what is.

But I'm going to stop fighting with other commenters. I hate taking time trying to score points on one another. I want to learn about the best way to govern our nation. by learning from all of you….

]]> By: daveinboca http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133585 daveinboca Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:28:10 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133585 lgrf..... So when Palin says her husband is a member of the steelworkers' union, she is out and out lying? Or maybe you just don't know what you're talking about. I worked for Amoco which was bought by BP which owns the major part of ANWR----Palin's husband is a contractor who works on projects with BP and is also a union member, mind-blowing as that might be to people who know nothing about real-world oil industry conditions.<br><br>kritt..... I guess an unsophisticated fella like yourself doesn't understand the many problems several border state governors have with adjacent nations. I was an FSO [if you know what that is] & worked in DC on border problems with Canada & Mexico. The governors of the states were involved with the Dept of State on each issue. Alaska has important international situations concerning fishing rights dealing with Russia, Japan, & other nations, including Canada, that involve extensive consultation with both DC & international NGOs. <br><br>I'm sure this is all over your head, but among the states, Alaska &Texas & California, Arizona & Florida all have extensive bilateral & multilateral relations with many NGOS & the governors of those states have to understand a myriad of foreign policy issues----McCain probably understood this well as he is highly placed on the Commerce Cte among others. <br><br>Typical mind-boggling condescension or silliness is part of the Dem approach to politics, as when Obama's campaign chmn called McCain a "schmuck" yesterday.<br><br>I just won the tournament, though I doubt that you'd understand why. lgrf….. So when Palin says her husband is a member of the steelworkers' union, she is out and out lying? Or maybe you just don't know what you're talking about. I worked for Amoco which was bought by BP which owns the major part of ANWR—-Palin's husband is a contractor who works on projects with BP and is also a union member, mind-blowing as that might be to people who know nothing about real-world oil industry conditions.

kritt….. I guess an unsophisticated fella like yourself doesn't understand the many problems several border state governors have with adjacent nations. I was an FSO [if you know what that is] & worked in DC on border problems with Canada & Mexico. The governors of the states were involved with the Dept of State on each issue. Alaska has important international situations concerning fishing rights dealing with Russia, Japan, & other nations, including Canada, that involve extensive consultation with both DC & international NGOs.

I'm sure this is all over your head, but among the states, Alaska &Texas & California, Arizona & Florida all have extensive bilateral & multilateral relations with many NGOS & the governors of those states have to understand a myriad of foreign policy issues—-McCain probably understood this well as he is highly placed on the Commerce Cte among others.

Typical mind-boggling condescension or silliness is part of the Dem approach to politics, as when Obama's campaign chmn called McCain a “schmuck” yesterday.

I just won the tournament, though I doubt that you'd understand why.

]]> By: daveinboca http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133589 daveinboca Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:28:10 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133589 lgrf..... So when Palin says her husband is a member of the steelworkers' union, she is out and out lying? Or maybe you just don't know what you're talking about. I worked for Amoco which was bought by BP which owns the major part of ANWR----Palin's husband is a contractor who works on projects with BP and is also a union member, mind-blowing as that might be to people who know nothing about real-world oil industry conditions.<br><br>kritt..... I guess an unsophisticated fella like yourself doesn't understand the many problems several border state governors have with adjacent nations. I was an FSO [if you know what that is] & worked in DC on border problems with Canada & Mexico. The governors of the states were involved with the Dept of State on each issue. Alaska has important international situations concerning fishing rights dealing with Russia, Japan, & other nations, including Canada, that involve extensive consultation with both DC & international NGOs. <br><br>I'm sure this is all over your head, but among the states, Alaska &Texas & California, Arizona & Florida all have extensive bilateral & multilateral relations with many NGOS & the governors of those states have to understand a myriad of foreign policy issues----McCain probably understood this well as he is highly placed on the Commerce Cte among others. <br><br>Typical mind-boggling condescension or silliness is part of the Dem approach to politics, as when Obama's campaign chmn called McCain a "schmuck" yesterday.<br><br>I just won the tournament, though I doubt that you'd understand why. lgrf….. So when Palin says her husband is a member of the steelworkers' union, she is out and out lying? Or maybe you just don't know what you're talking about. I worked for Amoco which was bought by BP which owns the major part of ANWR—-Palin's husband is a contractor who works on projects with BP and is also a union member, mind-blowing as that might be to people who know nothing about real-world oil industry conditions.

kritt….. I guess an unsophisticated fella like yourself doesn't understand the many problems several border state governors have with adjacent nations. I was an FSO [if you know what that is] & worked in DC on border problems with Canada & Mexico. The governors of the states were involved with the Dept of State on each issue. Alaska has important international situations concerning fishing rights dealing with Russia, Japan, & other nations, including Canada, that involve extensive consultation with both DC & international NGOs.

I'm sure this is all over your head, but among the states, Alaska &Texas & California, Arizona & Florida all have extensive bilateral & multilateral relations with many NGOS & the governors of those states have to understand a myriad of foreign policy issues—-McCain probably understood this well as he is highly placed on the Commerce Cte among others.

Typical mind-boggling condescension or silliness is part of the Dem approach to politics, as when Obama's campaign chmn called McCain a “schmuck” yesterday.

I just won the tournament, though I doubt that you'd understand why.

]]> By: lgrf4evr http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133582 lgrf4evr Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:43:34 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133582 Palin is not married to a union member, her husband is in charge or sit one broad of a major oil companies that will benefit from the oil drilling in ANWR.<br><br>she had not done much to stop corruption but i do think that it is a good pick for Macain in the poltical sense in that she will appeal to younger conservative women by being anti choice, to progressive women for being a "feminist", but i am concern about older conservative women in that they believe a woman place is in her husband shadow.<br><br>than agin, maybe the older conservative women would vote for her because she is in MaCain shadow? This great for MaCain but lets just hope the older conservative women vote for Palin by overlooking their belief that she belong in her husband shadow. Palin is not married to a union member, her husband is in charge or sit one broad of a major oil companies that will benefit from the oil drilling in ANWR.

she had not done much to stop corruption but i do think that it is a good pick for Macain in the poltical sense in that she will appeal to younger conservative women by being anti choice, to progressive women for being a “feminist”, but i am concern about older conservative women in that they believe a woman place is in her husband shadow.

than agin, maybe the older conservative women would vote for her because she is in MaCain shadow? This great for MaCain but lets just hope the older conservative women vote for Palin by overlooking their belief that she belong in her husband shadow.

]]> By: lgrf4evr http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133584 lgrf4evr Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:43:34 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133584 Palin is not married to a union member, her husband is in charge or sit one broad of a major oil companies that will benefit from the oil drilling in ANWR.<br><br>she had not done much to stop corruption but i do think that it is a good pick for Macain in the poltical sense in that she will appeal to younger conservative women by being anti choice, to progressive women for being a "feminist", but i am concern about older conservative women in that they believe a woman place is in her husband shadow.<br><br>than agin, maybe the older conservative women would vote for her because she is in MaCain shadow? This great for MaCain but lets just hope the older conservative women vote for Palin by overlooking their belief that she belong in her husband shadow. Palin is not married to a union member, her husband is in charge or sit one broad of a major oil companies that will benefit from the oil drilling in ANWR.

she had not done much to stop corruption but i do think that it is a good pick for Macain in the poltical sense in that she will appeal to younger conservative women by being anti choice, to progressive women for being a “feminist”, but i am concern about older conservative women in that they believe a woman place is in her husband shadow.

than agin, maybe the older conservative women would vote for her because she is in MaCain shadow? This great for MaCain but lets just hope the older conservative women vote for Palin by overlooking their belief that she belong in her husband shadow.

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133575 kritt11 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:40:00 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133575 pacatrue-- she seems to have high energy and enthusiasm, and is less corrupt than the usual Alaskan pol. But that's just not enough. pacatrue– she seems to have high energy and enthusiasm, and is less corrupt than the usual Alaskan pol. But that's just not enough.

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133581 kritt11 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:40:00 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133581 pacatrue-- she seems to have high energy and enthusiasm, and is less corrupt than the usual Alaskan pol. But that's just not enough. pacatrue– she seems to have high energy and enthusiasm, and is less corrupt than the usual Alaskan pol. But that's just not enough.

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133574 kritt11 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:38:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133574 Daveinboca- And what exactly does running a city and then a state have to do with foreign policy? Diplomacy? National security? Biden has her beat on all three counts.<br><br>So-- game, set and match! Daveinboca- And what exactly does running a city and then a state have to do with foreign policy? Diplomacy? National security? Biden has her beat on all three counts.

So– game, set and match!

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133580 kritt11 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:38:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133580 Daveinboca- And what exactly does running a city and then a state have to do with foreign policy? Diplomacy? National security? Biden has her beat on all three counts.<br><br>So-- game, set and match! Daveinboca- And what exactly does running a city and then a state have to do with foreign policy? Diplomacy? National security? Biden has her beat on all three counts.

So– game, set and match!

]]> By: pacatrue http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133568 pacatrue Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:05:05 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133568 That was my point, Daveinboca. Both presidential candidates have legislative experience. We can't hammer just Obama on lack of executive experience without hammering McCain as well. I'm sorry that point didn't get through. That was my point, Daveinboca. Both presidential candidates have legislative experience. We can't hammer just Obama on lack of executive experience without hammering McCain as well. I'm sorry that point didn't get through.

]]> By: pacatrue http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133573 pacatrue Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:05:05 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133573 That was my point, Daveinboca. Both presidential candidates have legislative experience. We can't hammer just Obama on lack of executive experience without hammering McCain as well. I'm sorry that point didn't get through. That was my point, Daveinboca. Both presidential candidates have legislative experience. We can't hammer just Obama on lack of executive experience without hammering McCain as well. I'm sorry that point didn't get through.

]]> By: pacatrue http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133559 pacatrue Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:03:39 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133559 So last night I lamented the lack of substantive criticisms of Obama's speech that were not talking points, name-calling, and predictable. Hardly any. Then I said I'd read enough left-ish blogs to know similar things would happen with McCain's speech, but it appears I didn't even have to wait that long. Less than 24 hours did the trick.<br><br>Palin is a person with positive and negative qualities. It is possible to discuss them without the overblown rhetoric. Isn't it? So last night I lamented the lack of substantive criticisms of Obama's speech that were not talking points, name-calling, and predictable. Hardly any. Then I said I'd read enough left-ish blogs to know similar things would happen with McCain's speech, but it appears I didn't even have to wait that long. Less than 24 hours did the trick.

Palin is a person with positive and negative qualities. It is possible to discuss them without the overblown rhetoric. Isn't it?

]]> By: pacatrue http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133567 pacatrue Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:03:39 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133567 So last night I lamented the lack of substantive criticisms of Obama's speech that were not talking points, name-calling, and predictable. Hardly any. Then I said I'd read enough left-ish blogs to know similar things would happen with McCain's speech, but it appears I didn't even have to wait that long. Less than 24 hours did the trick.<br><br>Palin is a person with positive and negative qualities. It is possible to discuss them without the overblown rhetoric. Isn't it? So last night I lamented the lack of substantive criticisms of Obama's speech that were not talking points, name-calling, and predictable. Hardly any. Then I said I'd read enough left-ish blogs to know similar things would happen with McCain's speech, but it appears I didn't even have to wait that long. Less than 24 hours did the trick.

Palin is a person with positive and negative qualities. It is possible to discuss them without the overblown rhetoric. Isn't it?

]]> By: daveinboca http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133558 daveinboca Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:01:50 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133558 I guess paca ain't voting for Obama either, as he is an [absentee] Senator with no executive experience. I guess the dude who keeps saying McCain doesn't have a chance is flailing away full-time in the witless fashion Dems naturally are drawn to [Obama's campaign mgr calling McCain a "schmuck"].<br><br>I believe ignorance is the strongest suit RN brings to the game, as Reagan & Ike were the two greatest POTUS in the last fifty years. I will admit ex-govs. Clintoon and James Earl Give-away-the-store were disasters..... I guess paca ain't voting for Obama either, as he is an [absentee] Senator with no executive experience. I guess the dude who keeps saying McCain doesn't have a chance is flailing away full-time in the witless fashion Dems naturally are drawn to [Obama's campaign mgr calling McCain a "schmuck"].

I believe ignorance is the strongest suit RN brings to the game, as Reagan & Ike were the two greatest POTUS in the last fifty years. I will admit ex-govs. Clintoon and James Earl Give-away-the-store were disasters…..

]]> By: daveinboca http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133566 daveinboca Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:01:50 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133566 I guess paca ain't voting for Obama either, as he is an [absentee] Senator with no executive experience. I guess the dude who keeps saying McCain doesn't have a chance is flailing away full-time in the witless fashion Dems naturally are drawn to [Obama's campaign mgr calling McCain a "schmuck"].<br><br>I believe ignorance is the strongest suit RN brings to the game, as Reagan & Ike were the two greatest POTUS in the last fifty years. I will admit ex-govs. Clintoon and James Earl Give-away-the-store were disasters..... I guess paca ain't voting for Obama either, as he is an [absentee] Senator with no executive experience. I guess the dude who keeps saying McCain doesn't have a chance is flailing away full-time in the witless fashion Dems naturally are drawn to [Obama's campaign mgr calling McCain a "schmuck"].

I believe ignorance is the strongest suit RN brings to the game, as Reagan & Ike were the two greatest POTUS in the last fifty years. I will admit ex-govs. Clintoon and James Earl Give-away-the-store were disasters…..

]]> By: RememberNovember http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133553 RememberNovember Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:30:02 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133553 McCain is an "Ex-Maverick", and unlike being a Marine, once you leave that you are no longer considered one. Once you "flip" , you need to go into the Witless Protection Program.<br><br>McCain has flip flopped on his strategy just as he has flipped on everything that made him a "maverick" to begin with. McCain is an “Ex-Maverick”, and unlike being a Marine, once you leave that you are no longer considered one. Once you “flip” , you need to go into the Witless Protection Program.

McCain has flip flopped on his strategy just as he has flipped on everything that made him a “maverick” to begin with.

]]> By: RememberNovember http://themoderatevoice.com/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-133557 RememberNovember Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:30:02 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/general/22219/mccains-desperation-vp-pick/#comment-133557 McCain is an "Ex-Maverick", and unlike being a Marine, once you leave that you are no longer considered one. Once you "flip" , you need to go into the Witless Protection Program.<br><br>McCain has flip flopped on his strategy just as he has flipped on everything that made him a "maverick" to begin with. McCain is an “Ex-Maverick”, and unlike being a Marine, once you leave that you are no longer considered one. Once you “flip” , you need to go into the Witless Protection Program.

McCain has flip flopped on his strategy just as he has flipped on everything that made him a “maverick” to begin with.

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