Comments on: Civil Rights Roundup: 08/29/08

By: jchem

jchem — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:05:37 +0000

Good point SD,

it makes you wonder then why the university wouldn't let the study move forward if a review wasn't required, no? Like I said in my previous post, if the outline was acceptable to an IRB (and God knows how much paperwork goes into that) then it should be acceptable to the University. I'm not in a position to resign from my position, but I would certainly be upset that I wouldn't have access to data that the IRB deems not harmful.

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:28:08 +0000

Jchem,

If a scientific review committee approved the research from a scientific point of view, any data review should be approved by an IRB on expedited review. There is chance of harm to the subjects and informed consent would not have to be obtained.

By: chmbrln

chmbrln — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:26:02 +0000

Hey David! It's tough to comment in here because of the multiple stories, but I just wanted to offer a sincere 'thank you' for pulling this together. I'm not certain there's anywhere else that gives this type of a summary. Thanks!

By: jchem

jchem — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:54:54 +0000

Re: the UCLA professor. I do research on people to understand learning patterns, trends, etc., and use a bit of statistics to understand most of it. I would be a bit upset, too, if I couldn't have access to these data. He would have to seek IRB approval and explicitly state how he would keep the data confidential. I'm not sure if this approval was granted, but if it was, I think the university should let him do his study.