Comments on: Joe Biden Does Himself Proud http://themoderatevoice.com/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:50:06 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/comment-page-1/#comment-134662 kritt11 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:39:25 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/democratic-party/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/#comment-134662 But the American Dream has been shut off to many in our society, and Biden knows that. Just as we buffet up corporate interests in downtimes, Biden feels we should do the same for the working and middle classes. But the American Dream has been shut off to many in our society, and Biden knows that. Just as we buffet up corporate interests in downtimes, Biden feels we should do the same for the working and middle classes.

]]> By: Leonidas http://themoderatevoice.com/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/comment-page-1/#comment-134661 Leonidas Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:37:25 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/democratic-party/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/#comment-134661 In baseball terms I'd call this a singele. He did ok but nothing really special. The interesting thing is that Biden's own family experiences reveal just how intact the American dream is. His untalented father had a good deal of money but squadered it away ( an item not mentioned in the speech, but it is in Biden's autobiography) forcing the family into the working class. By hard work Biden was able to achieve much in life by working hard and never giving up, not by government handouts.<br><br>This is the real lesson of the Biden experience, that if you work hard you can get somewhere, but if you don't you can fall off the ladder. This is the American dream, not a political platform of government spending but an opportunity for those who work hard to get ahead on their own merits. In baseball terms I'd call this a singele. He did ok but nothing really special. The interesting thing is that Biden's own family experiences reveal just how intact the American dream is. His untalented father had a good deal of money but squadered it away ( an item not mentioned in the speech, but it is in Biden's autobiography) forcing the family into the working class. By hard work Biden was able to achieve much in life by working hard and never giving up, not by government handouts.

This is the real lesson of the Biden experience, that if you work hard you can get somewhere, but if you don't you can fall off the ladder. This is the American dream, not a political platform of government spending but an opportunity for those who work hard to get ahead on their own merits.

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/comment-page-1/#comment-134660 kritt11 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:25:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/democratic-party/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/#comment-134660 DLS- I can't imagine anyone from either party lowering themselves to relish death or destruction from manmade or natural causes. Its just too demonic. DLS- I can't imagine anyone from either party lowering themselves to relish death or destruction from manmade or natural causes. Its just too demonic.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/comment-page-1/#comment-134659 DLS Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:07:00 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/democratic-party/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/#comment-134659 I'm sure many libs and Dems relish the prospect of Gustav turning into another Gulf Coast hurricane (a potential campaign issue I was first to note, earlier this week), but that doesn't mean they wish it on this country any more than they actually relish US battle deaths in Iraq, say. They're glad it's happening while the other party is in power instead of them, but that doesn't mean they're ("absolutely") glad the events themselves are happening. Some might wish for misfortune, but even the most craven Demmies conceivable aren't hoping for mass-scale slaughter or destruction here. I'm sure many libs and Dems relish the prospect of Gustav turning into another Gulf Coast hurricane (a potential campaign issue I was first to note, earlier this week), but that doesn't mean they wish it on this country any more than they actually relish US battle deaths in Iraq, say. They're glad it's happening while the other party is in power instead of them, but that doesn't mean they're (”absolutely”) glad the events themselves are happening. Some might wish for misfortune, but even the most craven Demmies conceivable aren't hoping for mass-scale slaughter or destruction here.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/comment-page-1/#comment-134658 DLS Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:04:34 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/democratic-party/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/#comment-134658 It was a good speech. Pegging McCain to the GOP and the status quo (and showing McCain _and_ Bush reversals of position, hmmm) is not only good offensive (attack) policy but is fundamental strategy -- McCain represents perpetuation of the GOP that the public voted no confidence in, in 2006 and contrasts with the other strategic theme, that Obama offers Americans change from this status quo. How more clear could the distinction be made? Good speech. It was a good speech. Pegging McCain to the GOP and the status quo (and showing McCain _and_ Bush reversals of position, hmmm) is not only good offensive (attack) policy but is fundamental strategy — McCain represents perpetuation of the GOP that the public voted no confidence in, in 2006 and contrasts with the other strategic theme, that Obama offers Americans change from this status quo. How more clear could the distinction be made? Good speech.

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/comment-page-1/#comment-134657 kritt11 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:03:49 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/democratic-party/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/#comment-134657 Patrick- No we have no hoardes of starving orphans. But we do have many still displaced by Katrina, others who can't afford healthcare yet are too rich for Medicaid and many others yet who have lost or are losing their homes. We are in two wars that are costing taxpayers 12 billion a month, and the middle-class is slipping down into the lower class. The GOP response has been indifference. The Bush administration has rewarded the folks who put him in office-- with his allies in the GOP's blessing. They seem to care more about corporations than consumers, who are, after all, the citizens who elected them in the first place. Patrick- No we have no hoardes of starving orphans. But we do have many still displaced by Katrina, others who can't afford healthcare yet are too rich for Medicaid and many others yet who have lost or are losing their homes. We are in two wars that are costing taxpayers 12 billion a month, and the middle-class is slipping down into the lower class. The GOP response has been indifference. The Bush administration has rewarded the folks who put him in office– with his allies in the GOP's blessing. They seem to care more about corporations than consumers, who are, after all, the citizens who elected them in the first place.

]]> By: Loviatar http://themoderatevoice.com/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/comment-page-1/#comment-134656 Loviatar Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:38:02 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/democratic-party/22156/joe-biden-does-himself-proud/#comment-134656 Patrick,<br><br><i>Listening to him discuss how the GOP was responsible makes you think that they wanted these problems to happen.</i><br><br>Tell me, what's the difference between knowing that you're doing wrong and not caring and setting out to do wrong? The end result is the same isn't it? Patrick,

Listening to him discuss how the GOP was responsible makes you think that they wanted these problems to happen.

Tell me, what's the difference between knowing that you're doing wrong and not caring and setting out to do wrong? The end result is the same isn't it?

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