Comments on: Democratic Convention 2008: Film, Beefy Police Manhandle Skinny ABC Journo?

By: mjames

mjames — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:17:18 +0000

Just read the comments that support the Denver Police for using a baton to a little girl to show how cowardly the officer was and how there is absolute power by the Denver Police to cause harm to the public at anytime without liability. This girl was just a protestor not breaking any law of any kind. She was arrested after being hit by the cop for ” resisting arrest ” with jail and lawyer fees to regain any civil freedom again. No public outcry only jeers from Denver phycopathic commenters validating this is the correct activity for anyone that can get away with such violent abuse.. the Denver Police. Here is the video clip: Here’s the video shot by the Rocky Mountain News of a Denver officer slamming a Code Pink demonstrator to the ground:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfISlq1gzK8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcoloradoindependent%2Ecom%2F9276%2Fdenver%2Dpolice%2Dbeat%2Dthe%2Dcrowds%2Dt%2Dshirt%2Dno%2Dlaughing%2Dmatter%2Dprotesters%2Dcharge&feature=player_embedded
copy and paste if you would like to see what can happen to you or your loved ones at any time in Denver Colorado. The voice of dissent is silenced by a baton to the throat of a non-violent little girl… then applauded by many sick children that have nothing better to do than vent anger in a public forum. Again appluaded by the Denver Post. The comments are tolerated because they do not express responsible dissent of public policy. Here is another abuse of tax payer dollars and police power selling t-shirts for profit paid for by off duty payroll monies of denver police that work for the public domain and could not make a 2nd income by law unless employed by the public as an officer and authorized by the commander of the the Denver Police. Denver police ‘Beat the Crowds’ T-shirt no laughing matter The article is here: http://coloradoindependent.com/9276/denver-poli...

By: CharlesBennett

CharlesBennett — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:12:41 +0000

I cannot believe your comments! Have you lost your minds! You have a right to stand on any sidewalk in america and protest or interview anyone who passes by as long as you do not impeed their movement. To say you have to obey every command of police when they they give you an unlawful order is the very reason the country is in the mess we are in. This is not 1942 Germany yet! If good men do not stand up for our rights, then tyranny will rule our land. Let me see, when it comes to america, we only have two rights when it comes to police, Sit Down And Shut Up?!

By: 52novels

52novels — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:40:05 +0000

I agree there was abuse of authority. But to suggest that Eslocker was 100 percent innocent is a crock. The tape doesn't lie: he decided to get mouthy with a cop. Right, wrong, or indifferent, that's rarely the smart play.

Conveniently, the interaction between the two men just prior to when it got ugly is missing... and there's a hole in the tape just prior to Eslocker's arrest.

It makes me wonder why.

By: lurxst

lurxst — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:52:08 +0000

I think we should always defend police abuse of authority. They are always right. Public property is actually police property because they are more public than you. When anyone asks you to do something, no matter how ridiculous, you should immediately comply, because they could be an off duty police officer. Police should be allowed to physically assault you whenever they feel like it because thats what any reasonable person would do. You should never attempt to clarify a police officer's instructions no matter how confusing or dangerous because they are superintelligent and never make mistakes like mere mortals. The first amendment doesn't really apply anymore because back when it was written they didn't have sidewalks to contend with.

It is doubtful that there will be a prosecution for this, it is simply the police abusing their authority to remove a nuisance as opposed to dutifully enforcing the law. Isn't there some old adage about picking fights with people who buy their ink by the barrel? Or in this case, sell their advertising air time by the millions?

By: 52novels

52novels — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:11:40 +0000

I'm not defending all of the officer's actions... I think he clearly got wrapped up in his authority and crossed a line. I was criticizing Eslocker's behavior... which absolutely had a hand in how things escalated. He's not innocent in this matter.

It's pretty simple: When a guy who's been tasked with keeping an area clear asks you to move, your response shouldn't be a dismissive "Okay, hold on." Eslocker didn't do himself any favors by behaving like a self-important brat.

All he had to do was take a few strides and all of this likely would've never happened..

By: APR

APR — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:27:21 +0000

But was he asked by an on-duty police officer or a hired security guard (who happens to be a police officer)? Cause sorry, he doesn't have to listen to a private security guard for any reason. And even if he was a police officer, pushing someone into a street is not SOP.

By: 52novels

52novels — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:09:35 +0000

All he needed to do to avoid all of that was not pop off to the officer when he was asked to move at the outset of that clip.

When an officer asks you to move, the correct response is not "Okay, hold on" as if your shit doesn't stink.

(Interestingly enough, what we don't see is what happened right before this clip began. Based on how the officer asked him to move in the clip, I'd bet that the producer had been asked to move prior to the point when we joined in.)

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