Comments on: ‘Obama’s Flaw: The Electorate Doesn’t Understand His Plans’ – From O Globo of Brazil

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:13:23 +0000

You conveniently ignore my point. Maybe you ought to choose a story and stick to it.

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:52:19 +0000

JS,

There is not way that anyone but an partisan apologist can read the policy proposals of Senator obama and see that he does not care about public education, immigration control, lower crime, or limiting affirmative action.

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:20:37 +0000

SD, asking questions is great and necessary. The ridiculous judgements you expressed in the last paragraph of your first post…

“he wants open borders, lousy schools, higher crime, more affirmative action, and gun control”

…are hardly questions.

By: elrod

elrod — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:28:16 +0000

My understanding is that Obama's acceptance speech will be much more bread and butter policy and less high-falutin rhetoric. Though Michael Gerson thinks that's a bad idea, I think it's smart. Will Barack Obama actually bore people with a to-the-point policy driven speech? Unlikely. I've seen him do it before in smaller venues. It's the big mega-speeches where he goes to the abstract.

He understands his job is not to convince high-minded intellectual idealists to support him. His task is to convince lower middle class whites that he can lead in Washington and enact policies to help them.

By: mgultch

mgultch — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:20:35 +0000

I do not think it is obvious he is going to win. Obama really has to start making a case around his policies and less about his destiny. I think this is a big reason he has failed to connect. It comes of as arrogant. And his policies have academic, stamped all over them. You have to have a PHD to read them. He has also aligned himself with the Kennedy/Kerry wing of the party and alienated the Clintonians. Maybe that is why his numbers are dropping in the polls. He has stirred some thing up at http://www.bop-o-rama.com/blog/ His number at the real-time poll at http://www.bop-o-rama.com may top 1,000,000 today while McCain is still below 400,000. Political Junkies? The thing about Bill and Hill is they new how to make an issue simple.

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:15:43 +0000

I have been to his website and that is why I noticed that each issue is framed in isolation. My guess is that they were written by different policy committees. So you get the higher wages in one group and the open borders and unlimited immigration in another group.

Since Senator Obama is the certain winner, shouldn't people be asking questions now instead of waiting until after the election. Why not try to avoid the letdown that comes with new administration and ask the hard questions now?

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:00:31 +0000

SD, the issues you bring up are hardly specific to Obama, so framing them the way you do is disingenuous. In the way of “answers” though, you are welcome to go to his website and read his policies. Other explanations have been forthcoming – if you've been paying attention. That said, nobody here that I'm aware of has suggested he is the second coming, but only a better potential antidote than the miserable ones we've seen lately.

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:49:01 +0000

Karl Rove never liked talking about policy. He believed that all elections could be won with election time gimmicks, focus groups, and niche marketing.

At least you could explain how Senator Obama plans on helping the economy while maintaining open borders, lowering energy consumption, and reducing carbon emissions. At least you could explain how giving the teachers unions everything they want will help education. Please explain any policy proposal that would make the urban public schools more like the Chicago Lab School. Please explain how having equal arrest and conviction rates for whites, blacks, and Hispanics will make crime go down? Please explain how adding class in addition to race is going to getting a quality college education more possible for the middle class? And last, please explain how a Chicago politican is going to help people retain the right to own a gun?

If you want to make comparisons to Karl Rove, then you should be talking about the opening prayers at the Democratic convention as compared to the open hostility to religion from most of the delegates.

By: JSpencer

JSpencer — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:43:33 +0000

Karl Rove would be proud of you SD. You GO little fella!!!

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:00:37 +0000

the problem with Senator Obama's policy proposals is that each one seems to have been written by a different group of staffers. To create jobs and raise wages, the economy needs to grow. Yet, another group of staffers are proposing an energy program that will slow economic growth.

One group of staffers wants to reduce carbon emissions while another wants open borders and unlimited immigration. One group of staffers want to improve education while another wants to give teachers unions veto power over all education reforms.

It is hard for the white middle class to believe that Senator Obama really cares about them when he wants open borders, lousy schools, higher crime, more affirmative action, and gun control.

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