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	<title>Comments on: Mark Warner Keynote: A Nominee That Should Have Been</title>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22117/mark-warner-keynoter-a-nominee-that-should-have-been/comment-page-1/#comment-145147</link>
		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kritt, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;there is no conservative Demcrats in Maryland. Of course, I doubt if you will be saying that O&#039;malley is fiscally irresponsible for running up a $1.7 billion dollar budget shortfall or that the total number of whites in Maryland is decreasng, or that even the top school district, Montgomery is beginning to slip due to immigration and gangs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kritt, </p>
<p>there is no conservative Demcrats in Maryland. Of course, I doubt if you will be saying that O&#39;malley is fiscally irresponsible for running up a $1.7 billion dollar budget shortfall or that the total number of whites in Maryland is decreasng, or that even the top school district, Montgomery is beginning to slip due to immigration and gangs.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warner-Romney, Romney-Warner 20xx.  (&quot;Does It Matter?&quot;)</description>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think Obama&#039;s speeches are full of fluff, I present to you, Mark Warner, the fluffmaster general.</description>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SD--Uh- yes it probably would. But what would be even better is if conservatives would stop lumping the Bill Clintons in with the Michael Moores----if I listen to conservative talk radio--- all Democrats except Zell Miller (who isn&#039;t even in politics anymore) and Joe Lieberman (who isn&#039;t even a Democrat anymore --- he&#039;s got his lips too puckered up against McCain&#039;s rear for that) are said to be socialists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I happen to live in a one-party state, Maryland, and believe it or not, we are not in the midst of a moral or economic collapse. Professionals still make more than hamburger flippers at McDonald&#039;s, and there are still a good number of folks who have no health care. We have conservative Democrats., moderate Democrats and liberal ones too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD&#8211;Uh- yes it probably would. But what would be even better is if conservatives would stop lumping the Bill Clintons in with the Michael Moores&#8212;-if I listen to conservative talk radio&#8212; all Democrats except Zell Miller (who isn&#39;t even in politics anymore) and Joe Lieberman (who isn&#39;t even a Democrat anymore &#8212; he&#39;s got his lips too puckered up against McCain&#39;s rear for that) are said to be socialists.</p>
<p>I happen to live in a one-party state, Maryland, and believe it or not, we are not in the midst of a moral or economic collapse. Professionals still make more than hamburger flippers at McDonald&#39;s, and there are still a good number of folks who have no health care. We have conservative Democrats., moderate Democrats and liberal ones too.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty boy -- yep, all about superficiality and Feeling Good.  Go, Dems, go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty boy &#8212; yep, all about superficiality and Feeling Good.  Go, Dems, go.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22117/mark-warner-keynoter-a-nominee-that-should-have-been/comment-page-1/#comment-145136</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The end of Brian Schweitzer&#039;s speech represents what should have been the standard level of rallying throughout last night&#039;s presentation.  He was great.  Everything else was a failure.  Note that Sibelius, the play-pen crowd&#039;s darling, was flat and predictable and made Nanci Pelosi look great by comparison (!).  What a dud.   Not only Sibelius but the entire evening at the convention but for Schweitzer, who again, should have been the model for everyone as the _base_ level of rallying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The end of Brian Schweitzer&#39;s speech represents what should have been the standard level of rallying throughout last night&#39;s presentation.  He was great.  Everything else was a failure.  Note that Sibelius, the play-pen crowd&#39;s darling, was flat and predictable and made Nanci Pelosi look great by comparison (!).  What a dud.   Not only Sibelius but the entire evening at the convention but for Schweitzer, who again, should have been the model for everyone as the _base_ level of rallying.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama won the packaging contest this year.  Sorry, no Warner (and no Romney).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama won the packaging contest this year.  Sorry, no Warner (and no Romney).</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kritt, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It depends of whether the estabishment Democartic Prty leader tries to limit the impact of former Repubicans in the coming one party America.  The leadership in the Democratic Party has hinted at the desire to close the Democratic Party nomination system to limit the effects of Repubicans and independents (more caucuses and closed primaries, fewer open primaries).  Also, the Democratic party could separate voting for state and local offices from the presidential voting. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have commented for some time that people should think about the impacts of the collapse of the Republican party and the coming one party state.  At least you acknowledge that it could be good for moderate Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kritt, </p>
<p>It depends of whether the estabishment Democartic Prty leader tries to limit the impact of former Repubicans in the coming one party America.  The leadership in the Democratic Party has hinted at the desire to close the Democratic Party nomination system to limit the effects of Repubicans and independents (more caucuses and closed primaries, fewer open primaries).  Also, the Democratic party could separate voting for state and local offices from the presidential voting. </p>
<p>I have commented for some time that people should think about the impacts of the collapse of the Republican party and the coming one party state.  At least you acknowledge that it could be good for moderate Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way that a Mark Warner will ever be President is that ias the Repubican party completes its collapse &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, Superdestroyer, Isn&#039;t that what you&#039;ve been predicting for the last 12 months? LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way that a Mark Warner will ever be President is that ias the Repubican party completes its collapse </p>
<p>Well, Superdestroyer, Isn&#39;t that what you&#39;ve been predicting for the last 12 months? LOL</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way that a Mark Warner will ever be President is that ias the Repubican party completes its collapse that all of the former Republican voters start voting in the Democratic Primary and create enough moderate voters to gie a moderate white male a chance of winning the Democratic primary. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What wil keep moderates from ever winnng the Democratic nomination is the need to move to the left to win the pirmary  Moderate, southern white males have little crediblity when they try to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way that a Mark Warner will ever be President is that ias the Repubican party completes its collapse that all of the former Republican voters start voting in the Democratic Primary and create enough moderate voters to gie a moderate white male a chance of winning the Democratic primary. </p>
<p>What wil keep moderates from ever winnng the Democratic nomination is the need to move to the left to win the pirmary  Moderate, southern white males have little crediblity when they try to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Merritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Merritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s because my general discontent with politics in this country is much less than it was four years ago, but he didn&#039;t inspire me as much as I&#039;d have liked.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the last time I saw a speech of his, it was in person four years ago at my school.  I thought that one was better.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I liked a lot of what he said, but something about his speech tonight was off-putting to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#39;s because my general discontent with politics in this country is much less than it was four years ago, but he didn&#39;t inspire me as much as I&#39;d have liked.</p>
<p>And the last time I saw a speech of his, it was in person four years ago at my school.  I thought that one was better.</p>
<p>I liked a lot of what he said, but something about his speech tonight was off-putting to me.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warner was probably passed over for the same reason he withdrew from the presidency-- whoever was vetting him found some info that would hurt the campaign. I remember when he withdrew reading that there was  some infidelity in his past. Not everyone who looks great on paper passes muster in background checks. As a Democrat, I&#039;m perfectly content with Biden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warner was probably passed over for the same reason he withdrew from the presidency&#8211; whoever was vetting him found some info that would hurt the campaign. I remember when he withdrew reading that there was  some infidelity in his past. Not everyone who looks great on paper passes muster in background checks. As a Democrat, I&#39;m perfectly content with Biden.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Warner&#039;s speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Warner&#39;s speech.</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;only in a country like the United States could someone start out from humble beginnings and then move on through a series of failed businesses only to succeed in the end.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People like Warner (and Libertarian leaning Republicans) need to stress this very strongly and try to get the bankruptcy bill of &#039;05 repealed. When it was passed, I remember hearing on Marketplace how economists were studying why Europe had so little entreprenurial spirit compared to the US and they realized that a lot of it was that once you fail once over there it&#039;s nearly impossible to recover. It takes a person on average two (or is it three?) failed businesses before one succeeds and the bankruptcy bill is going to stifle small business creation for a long time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not to mention that looking at bankruptcy stats a gigantic portion are from medical bills...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In any case, the open secret is that Obama is actively acting on expanding the Democratic apparatus immensely and moving the power base away from the old timers, and more towards the Warner description of what types of leaders the US needs. It&#039;s no coincidence that he&#039;s the keynote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;only in a country like the United States could someone start out from humble beginnings and then move on through a series of failed businesses only to succeed in the end.&#8221;</p>
<p>People like Warner (and Libertarian leaning Republicans) need to stress this very strongly and try to get the bankruptcy bill of &#39;05 repealed. When it was passed, I remember hearing on Marketplace how economists were studying why Europe had so little entreprenurial spirit compared to the US and they realized that a lot of it was that once you fail once over there it&#39;s nearly impossible to recover. It takes a person on average two (or is it three?) failed businesses before one succeeds and the bankruptcy bill is going to stifle small business creation for a long time.</p>
<p>Not to mention that looking at bankruptcy stats a gigantic portion are from medical bills&#8230;</p>
<p>In any case, the open secret is that Obama is actively acting on expanding the Democratic apparatus immensely and moving the power base away from the old timers, and more towards the Warner description of what types of leaders the US needs. It&#39;s no coincidence that he&#39;s the keynote.</p>
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		<title>By: APR</title>
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		<dc:creator>APR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MSNBC panel (Maddow, Buchanan and co) went off on Warner&#039;s speech, basically saying it was terrible because it wasn&#039;t negative enough.  Buchanan said it was entirely self-serving.  I can sort of see their point, that at some point the Dems have to attack a bit.  That being said though, this speech was classic Warner.  He has been one of my favorites for a long time because he can very clearly and eloquently talk about specific policies and bipartisanship.  He doesn&#039;t do the attack-dog thing though.  My only guess then is that Maddow and Buchanan don&#039;t really know anything about Warner, since that seemed to be what they were expecting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MSNBC panel (Maddow, Buchanan and co) went off on Warner&#39;s speech, basically saying it was terrible because it wasn&#39;t negative enough.  Buchanan said it was entirely self-serving.  I can sort of see their point, that at some point the Dems have to attack a bit.  That being said though, this speech was classic Warner.  He has been one of my favorites for a long time because he can very clearly and eloquently talk about specific policies and bipartisanship.  He doesn&#39;t do the attack-dog thing though.  My only guess then is that Maddow and Buchanan don&#39;t really know anything about Warner, since that seemed to be what they were expecting.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, check out my posting on his address.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Warner/Schweitzer 20**</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, check out my posting on his address.</p>
<p>Warner/Schweitzer 20**</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw Brian Switzhter (sorry not sure on the spelling)do the intro for Hillary, wow.  As Brooks noted, fun just entered the convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw Brian Switzhter (sorry not sure on the spelling)do the intro for Hillary, wow.  As Brooks noted, fun just entered the convention.</p>
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		<title>By: lebanon va</title>
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		<dc:creator>lebanon va</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark Warner Keynote: A Nominee That Should Have Been : insurancesitesfind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Warner Keynote: A Nominee That Should Have Been : insurancesitesfind</dc:creator>
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