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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22075/when-going-negative-be-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-135981</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocon--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Go ahead and defend the Bush Administration&#039;s stewardship.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Make a positive case for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocon&#8211;</p>
<p>Go ahead and defend the Bush Administration&#39;s stewardship.</p>
<p>Make a positive case for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;ahh but you see there is no definition of middle class. Obama says if you make 250,000 dollars or more you are upper class. McCain says 5 million.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The distortion part comes in when McCain &quot;defines&quot; $250,000 as $42,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>ahh but you see there is no definition of middle class. Obama says if you make 250,000 dollars or more you are upper class. McCain says 5 million.</i></p>
<p>The distortion part comes in when McCain &#8220;defines&#8221; $250,000 as $42,000.</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>which is not only false but completely innacurate since Obama has proposed a middle class tax cut,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ahh but you see there is no definition of middle class.  Obama says if you make 250,000 dollars or more you are upper class.  McCain says 5 million. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Therefore if you make 250,000 dollars Obama stated that you can expect a tax increase but in McCains world and lots of peoples worlds that is not upper class, that is middle class.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So inaccurate?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Depends on who is doing the defining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>which is not only false but completely innacurate since Obama has proposed a middle class tax cut,</p>
<p>ahh but you see there is no definition of middle class.  Obama says if you make 250,000 dollars or more you are upper class.  McCain says 5 million. </p>
<p>Therefore if you make 250,000 dollars Obama stated that you can expect a tax increase but in McCains world and lots of peoples worlds that is not upper class, that is middle class.</p>
<p>So inaccurate?</p>
<p>Depends on who is doing the defining.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/22075/when-going-negative-be-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-135978</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is running against &lt;strong&gt;eight disastrous years of Republican leadership&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is running against <strong>eight disastrous years of Republican leadership</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn, Obama is still trying to run against Bush more than run against McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn, Obama is still trying to run against Bush more than run against McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pacatrue:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, it is funny, but I still wish it was a funny video by some random person at YouTube and not an official campaign video. It&#039;s just going to continue the downward spiral of the campaigns.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well said - I&#039;m also disappointed that Obama has begun pushing negative ads, particularly the ad that insinuated that McCain gave political favors to Ralph Reed (and was thereby associated with Abramoff).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Neocon:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;However I find it comical that Obama can unleash attack adds and its okay. When McCain claims Obama is a ROCK star its the end of the world and McCain should be hung... Id rather see this kind of adds then flat out distortions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sadly Obama has aired some negative ads, so it&#039;s now a question of the degree of negativity, but it seems clear that McCain&#039;s negative ads are primarily in the &quot;flat out distortion&quot; category that you mention, which seems like a truly vile way to run an election.  Screaming &quot;Obama will raise taxes on the middle class&quot;, which is not only false but completely innacurate since Obama has proposed a middle class tax cut, and then claiming that Obama&#039;s stance on Iraq was a move to &quot;put politics ahead of country&quot; are simply wretched actions.  Obama of course countered with the Ralph Reed ad mentioned above, which is also hitting below the belt, so sadly neither candidate can claim clean hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pacatrue:</p>
<blockquote><p>Well, it is funny, but I still wish it was a funny video by some random person at YouTube and not an official campaign video. It&#39;s just going to continue the downward spiral of the campaigns.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well said &#8211; I&#39;m also disappointed that Obama has begun pushing negative ads, particularly the ad that insinuated that McCain gave political favors to Ralph Reed (and was thereby associated with Abramoff).</p>
<p>Neocon:</p>
<blockquote><p>However I find it comical that Obama can unleash attack adds and its okay. When McCain claims Obama is a ROCK star its the end of the world and McCain should be hung&#8230; Id rather see this kind of adds then flat out distortions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sadly Obama has aired some negative ads, so it&#39;s now a question of the degree of negativity, but it seems clear that McCain&#39;s negative ads are primarily in the &#8220;flat out distortion&#8221; category that you mention, which seems like a truly vile way to run an election.  Screaming &#8220;Obama will raise taxes on the middle class&#8221;, which is not only false but completely innacurate since Obama has proposed a middle class tax cut, and then claiming that Obama&#39;s stance on Iraq was a move to &#8220;put politics ahead of country&#8221; are simply wretched actions.  Obama of course countered with the Ralph Reed ad mentioned above, which is also hitting below the belt, so sadly neither candidate can claim clean hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes. We want people to bitch slap each other. Excellent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thats funny.  However I find it comical that Obama can unleash attack adds and its okay.  When McCain claims Obama is a ROCK star its the end of the world and McCain should be hung.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The progressives really do have thin skins.  I find the above add funny and I hope it starts a new trend in advertising.  Id rather see this kind of adds then flat out distortions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes. We want people to bitch slap each other. Excellent.</p>
<p>Thats funny.  However I find it comical that Obama can unleash attack adds and its okay.  When McCain claims Obama is a ROCK star its the end of the world and McCain should be hung.</p>
<p>The progressives really do have thin skins.  I find the above add funny and I hope it starts a new trend in advertising.  Id rather see this kind of adds then flat out distortions.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes. We want people to bitch slap each other. Excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes. We want people to bitch slap each other. Excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama should have an ad that just shows &lt;a href=&quot;http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSgc/SLG04KlyE9I/AAAAAAAADKM/9WBIpX-4OMo/s1600-h/obama-vs-mccain-tax2.png&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and explains what it means. And a second graph that shows McCain&#039;s plans will expand the debt by trillions more than his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama should have an ad that just shows <a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSgc/SLG04KlyE9I/AAAAAAAADKM/9WBIpX-4OMo/s1600-h/obama-vs-mccain-tax2.png">this</a> and explains what it means. And a second graph that shows McCain&#39;s plans will expand the debt by trillions more than his.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pacatrue,&lt;br&gt;Have you read Josh Marshall&#039;s Bitch-Slap theory of politics? &lt;a href=&quot;http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/209645.php&quot;&gt;http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/209645.php&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pacatrue,<br />Have you read Josh Marshall&#39;s Bitch-Slap theory of politics? <a href="http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/209645.php">http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/209645.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know we disagree on this, Chris. Accurate attacks are still attacks. Of course, they are not &quot;at their worst&quot;, since there are plenty of attacks that mislead or outright lie, but I&#039;m still not a fan of attacking others. One can argue that it is necessary, and this may be true, but I don&#039;t have to like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know we disagree on this, Chris. Accurate attacks are still attacks. Of course, they are not &#8220;at their worst&#8221;, since there are plenty of attacks that mislead or outright lie, but I&#39;m still not a fan of attacking others. One can argue that it is necessary, and this may be true, but I don&#39;t have to like it.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pacatrue,&lt;br&gt;I know, right!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Quoting McCain accurately is hardball politics at its worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pacatrue,<br />I know, right!</p>
<p>Quoting McCain accurately is hardball politics at its worst.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it is funny, but I still wish it was a funny video by some random person at YouTube and not an official campaign video. It&#039;s just going to continue the downward spiral of the campaigns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it is funny, but I still wish it was a funny video by some random person at YouTube and not an official campaign video. It&#39;s just going to continue the downward spiral of the campaigns.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama 2008 -- one house, one spouse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Ignore any second home he has in Washington, DC)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama 2008 &#8212; one house, one spouse.</p>
<p>(Ignore any second home he has in Washington, DC)</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too funny.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hah.  I would say something like stop picking on the wrinkly old white haired dude but you might mistake that for Joe Biden.  I guess Alzheimers will be the main focus of this years debates.</description>
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<p>Hah.  I would say something like stop picking on the wrinkly old white haired dude but you might mistake that for Joe Biden.  I guess Alzheimers will be the main focus of this years debates.</p>
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