Comments on: DNC Denver – The “Don’t Nap on Clinton” Convention

By: Mike_P

Mike_P — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:44:22 +0000

Late to the game, but for some reason this post reminds me of J. Geils' line from the namesake band's live album “Full House” … “Take out your false teeth momma, I want to suck on your gums!

It's hilarious, and at the same time, utterly ridiculous.

By: elrod

elrod — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:57:03 +0000

PUMA planned a major demonstration in Denver. They got 36 people to show up. That's it.

There were more anarchist losers than PUMAs.

By: Jim_Satterfield

Jim_Satterfield — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:52:20 +0000

True, it's not what Clinton is doing. It's what the people like Silhouette are doing. She pays no attention whatsoever to Obama's qualifications or lack of same. The entire point is attack, attack and attack some more. I'm not even going to mention the slime that has “graced” TMV from Sil's posts. I think you all remember it. Should the PUMA types continue on their current course they should quit pretending to be Democrats because no one else in the party will consider them Democrats again.

By: Silhouette

Silhouette — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:41:17 +0000

Say what you like. But don't be so bold to blame Obama's failure on Hillary Clinton. It is because he falls short of her resume' and not anything she did to him.

By: DLS

DLS — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:05:53 +0000

Here, kitties, kiddies, kitties (PUMA crowd)...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/0...

By: DLS

DLS — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:59:34 +0000

"I assume you're purposefully continuing to ignore the realities of the Florida and Michigan non-elections. "

He or she is probably delighted that Florida and Michigan have been given full voting rights. The Democratic Party displaying its true self in all openness:

Rules Don't Matter.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalin...

And we know what the Clintons, stalwart Dems, have treated rules and laws before.

By: acspark

acspark — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:53:06 +0000

Kathyrn,

I am still connected to R.F.O. but I knew that R.F.O. would have to be connected to the official Obama campaign. At that point, the freedom to "call it like it is" would vanish and I prefer to stay independent in my thinking. I still think Obama is the best candidate. However, I am not going to look at this election with rose colored glasses. I worked advance for Bill Clinton for two years and I know that they (Bill, Hillary and her supporters) will not go away quietly.

As far as PUMA? It is a story that I think is intriguing and it may actually have an impact this week. Bowers exaggerates a bit but I did fact check his claims and some of them are factual.

Biden was a terrible pick. Sebelius, Kaine, or Clinton would have been better choices. Not a personal attack on Biden; it is a political opinion that faults Obama's selection team on a botched opportunity.

By: lqjrob

lqjrob — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:13:29 +0000

silhouette, educated and /or enlightened blacks would complain and vote for her, just like we have voted for every other white person whether qualified or not. the others wont vote as usual , when will this country , come together?

By: Kathryn

Kathryn — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:07:10 +0000

I noticed you didn't take me up on my offer Silhouette. I think if you were a true Hillary Supporter (and not a McCain "ratf_ker), you would be happy to have her start her 2012 campaign debt free.

I would also think that you would consider just how bad a reflection this is on Hillary, either she is weak and can't keep these people in line or she is actively undermining the Democratic nominee, and yes this will be noticed. If Senator Clinton can't get people like Silhouette in line, she can kiss her career good-bye. The fact that Silhouette could care less about that makes me believe she (if she is a she)is leaving something out.

Nothing wrong with supporting the other party Silhouette but do it honestly and spare us the crocodile tears. These Rove-Segretti techniques are truly over the line.

By: ChrisWWW

ChrisWWW — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:54:38 +0000

Welcome back Silhouette.

I assume you're purposefully continuing to ignore the realities of the Florida and Michigan non-elections. It doesn't reflect well on you or your argument.

Which of course was not even offered to her, nor was her expertise tapped in any way by the young, underqualified usurper of the majority of democratic voters.

Obama went with the even more experienced Joe Biden. You should be happy.

By: Silhouette

Silhouette — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:49:06 +0000

I'm wondering how easily Obamabots would lay down if the DNC had instead shoved Hillary Clinton down their throats and denied two pro-Obama States full delegate count because of a petty infraction of starting out of turn; even while Obama got the majority of votes, as was the case with Clinton.

We'd be hearing cries of RACISM!! from every hilltop. And you damn well know it.

Sexist comments flew right and left with a silent Obama standing by with his patented smooth and slient "concerned" smile. If Hillary stood by while comments like "that boy oughta keep his place" or "who wants a darkie in the Whitehouse" flew all around (believe it or not these are tame comments compared to some of the blatantly sexist comments that fly even today towards Clinton, comparing her to a bitter old shrew for insisting the Will of the People who backed her be accounted for), Obamabots would be denouncing her from here to eternity.

And yet even while Obama stood silent and watched the press crucify his opponent with sexist slurs and passsively or otherwise supported the suppression of FLA and Michigan voter will, Hillary Clinton is STILL getting up and speaking on his behalf. An amazing thing considering if the situation were reversed.

It has never occured to many people that the reason Clinton is speaking and "being allowed" a vote is because that is her right and due. This primary process has been more about suppression of women's voices and rights as equals, than it has been about anything else. It has been derogatory towards women in the most wounding way: to nominate a younger, less experienced male over a CLEARLY more qualified woman. A woman who no one will argue would bring overwhelming success in the Fall for democrats should she have had any part of the ticket.

Which of course was not even offered to her, nor was her expertise tapped in any way by the young, underqualified usurper of the majority of democratic voters.

By: Kathryn

Kathryn — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:14:58 +0000

Here's a deal, if Hillary or a major staffer (i.e. a Carville) will go head to head with Bower on CNN or any other “head fest”and point out to him how much the damage the PUMA's are doing to their beloved Hillary's career, I'll make a sizable donation to the campaign to pay off her debt. Anyone want to match?

By: Kathryn

Kathryn — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:10:38 +0000

Um Tony, why all the attention to the PUMA's? Did you have a formal break with Republicans for Obama? I mean that's fine if you did, but it would be nice to state that sort of thing up front. I noticed you had some pretty harsh things to say about Biden. Is there a hidden agenda here?

By: jwest

jwest — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:42:31 +0000

Amanda,

The entire democrat primary system is designed to prevent the unenlightened from nominating the wrong person. That is why you have super delegates who have votes equal to 10,000 actual citizens.

If a sufficient number of super delegates are offered enough in money and position, Hillary could be the surprise nominee.

By: Ricorun

Ricorun — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:40:12 +0000

Beach volleyball notwithstanding, it will be interesting to see which pundits will end up with egg on their faces. Will the Clintonistas really try to stage a coup or will they strangle themselves in tin foil? Will Bill deliver a lukewarm speech through gritted teeth or will he soar? Will Hillary shed another tear, and for what? Will the clouds part above Invesco Stadium and a beam of light come down to lift Obama up?

Nah, that could only happen in the Bird's Nest. Where are the Chinese when you need 'em? Lol!

By: Ricorun

Ricorun — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:31:07 +0000

I dunno, I really liked beach volleyball.

By: djshay

djshay — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:30:37 +0000

Ahh Will Bower and the, ahem, 18 million PUMA supporters. Of which only about 60 showed up for the PUMA convention. The same Will Bower that boasted of raising 10 million dollars to retire Clinton's debt, when the actual amount was less than $100,000.00. Great source for your story. He's sooooo credible.

By: christoofar

christoofar — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:24:28 +0000

This week should prove to be as exciting, if not more so, than the Olympics were.
This is the best chance the Dems have had to step up in a very long time. Can they actually do it?

Supreme.Court.Justices. should be on the minds of every P.U.M.A. if they push McSame into the WH.

By: Amanda

Amanda — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:00:05 +0000

Bower is delusional if he truly believes that Clinton “has the will of the Democratic voters behind her.” Does he think the 20 million people who voted for Obama were tricked into it? That the party members who have since decided to support him were brainwashed into switching allegiances? Clinton has the will of a bunch of obsessed crazies behind her. Crazies who haven't even donated enough to retire 10% of her campaign debt. If they truly believed in Hillary Clinton instead of just blindly opposing Obama, they would follow her lead in supporting the actual Dem nominee and they'd help her pay off her debt.

By: Jim_Satterfield

Jim_Satterfield — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:45:45 +0000

Will Bower, like the rest of PUMA, is displaying his tinfoil hat qualifications.