Comments on: VP Rumors and Rumblings (AKA Obama/Biden) http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:02:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Patrick E http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-139015 Patrick E Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:33:22 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-139015 Webb as Sec Def is unlikely given his relative newness to the Senate, I would see someone more experienced for the post Webb as Sec Def is unlikely given his relative newness to the Senate, I would see someone more experienced for the post

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-139013 DLS Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:33:47 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-139013 "Jim Webb"<br><br>Secretary of Defense?<br><br>"Sen Clinton"<br><br>Secretary of ... State? “Jim Webb”

Secretary of Defense?

“Sen Clinton”

Secretary of … State?

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-139010 DLS Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:32:35 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-139010 In my view (considering the effect on the Obama campaign and its consequent changes in prospects for success in November), Biden was the strongest, followed by Clinton (the utilitarian as well as reverse-sexism appeal: the uncommitted Clinton voters still need to be reckoned with; Obama is likely accepting the risk of defection to McCain because this risk is likely quite low), followed by Kaine. Someone like Sibelius was a fan of the play-pen crowd but wasn't strong at all.<br><br>It's the Obama campaign (because Obama is clearly the leader) whose VP choice was the most intriguing and lefty radio here in Detroit has been vigorous in its speculation and opinions about the various choices Obama has had for VP, and will likely be lively next week, not just this weekend, now that the choice has been made. No VP candidate had unanimous support and the discussions so far have been quite interesting. (I wonder given Biden's rep for "remarks" that such talk about McCain will suddenly subside. I don't find either candidate to fail on this account, incidentally. Nor did Obama insofar as Biden is concerned.)<br><br>OK, libs and Dems. Go ahead and be ebullient (think "bubbly"), even you, T-Steel, because Obama did do well with his choice, probably the best choice possible: resolves foreign policy concerns (and exploits Iraq), had strong intellectual respect as a presidential candidate, and so on. The Obama campaign is on firm footing.<br><br>Now it's up to McCain to choose somebody who will -- hopefully, compensate for McCain's weaknesses. (McCain is effectively on the defensive in this campaign!) Lefty talk radio hasn't addressed McCain's VP choices at all. (It may not matter.) In my view (considering the effect on the Obama campaign and its consequent changes in prospects for success in November), Biden was the strongest, followed by Clinton (the utilitarian as well as reverse-sexism appeal: the uncommitted Clinton voters still need to be reckoned with; Obama is likely accepting the risk of defection to McCain because this risk is likely quite low), followed by Kaine. Someone like Sibelius was a fan of the play-pen crowd but wasn't strong at all.

It's the Obama campaign (because Obama is clearly the leader) whose VP choice was the most intriguing and lefty radio here in Detroit has been vigorous in its speculation and opinions about the various choices Obama has had for VP, and will likely be lively next week, not just this weekend, now that the choice has been made. No VP candidate had unanimous support and the discussions so far have been quite interesting. (I wonder given Biden's rep for “remarks” that such talk about McCain will suddenly subside. I don't find either candidate to fail on this account, incidentally. Nor did Obama insofar as Biden is concerned.)

OK, libs and Dems. Go ahead and be ebullient (think “bubbly”), even you, T-Steel, because Obama did do well with his choice, probably the best choice possible: resolves foreign policy concerns (and exploits Iraq), had strong intellectual respect as a presidential candidate, and so on. The Obama campaign is on firm footing.

Now it's up to McCain to choose somebody who will — hopefully, compensate for McCain's weaknesses. (McCain is effectively on the defensive in this campaign!) Lefty talk radio hasn't addressed McCain's VP choices at all. (It may not matter.)

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-139009 kritt11 Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:48:38 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-139009 Well its better than picking Gov Kaine or Evan Bayh- neither added much to the ticket. Kaine is another newbie with no foreign policy experience, and Bayh- is just too bland and forgettable. Well its better than picking Gov Kaine or Evan Bayh- neither added much to the ticket. Kaine is another newbie with no foreign policy experience, and Bayh- is just too bland and forgettable.

]]> By: T_Steel http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-139007 T_Steel Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:53:17 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-139007 RATS! Now I owe people BBQ and all the trimmings. Curse you Obama!! RATS! Now I owe people BBQ and all the trimmings. Curse you Obama!!

]]> By: beau biden http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-114125 beau biden Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:12:22 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-114125 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Secret Service on Their Way to Biden’s House · Real Clear Politcs http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-114124 Secret Service on Their Way to Biden’s House · Real Clear Politcs Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:54:30 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-114124 [...] it’s not Biden there will be egg on the faces of the media and the bloggers, including myself who are concealment every the innuendos and signs that saucer to Biden existence [...] [...] it’s not Biden there will be egg on the faces of the media and the bloggers, including myself who are concealment every the innuendos and signs that saucer to Biden existence [...]

]]> By: StockBoySF http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-139004 StockBoySF Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:28:20 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-139004 I love it!<br><br>Joe is right!<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbOa989IRYw">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbOa989IRYw</a><br><br>As an aside and something Biden apparently advocates.... tt will be interesting to see if we start hearing more about partitioning in Iraq and whether it is before the election, or after. I've long supported this as an option and with Joe's foreign policy credentials, it now has the ability to grow some legs.<br><br>It also looks like Biden was right on a brewing Georgia/Russia conflict (back in Nov. of 2007). Seems that he has a great grasp of foreign issues:<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDi2boRONs4">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDi2boRONs4</a><br><br>Last but not least.. Pakistan (not just on the nuke issue but on Pakistan's stability)...<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWZm_puicBQ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWZm_puicBQ</a><br><br>I'm done and have a good night! I love it!

Joe is right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbOa989IRYw

As an aside and something Biden apparently advocates…. tt will be interesting to see if we start hearing more about partitioning in Iraq and whether it is before the election, or after. I've long supported this as an option and with Joe's foreign policy credentials, it now has the ability to grow some legs.

It also looks like Biden was right on a brewing Georgia/Russia conflict (back in Nov. of 2007). Seems that he has a great grasp of foreign issues:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDi2boRONs4

Last but not least.. Pakistan (not just on the nuke issue but on Pakistan's stability)…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWZm_puicBQ

I'm done and have a good night!

]]> By: StockBoySF http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-139003 StockBoySF Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:13:50 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-139003 My God! I went to Wikipedia and the entry on there for Joe Biden already has him as the choice as VP for Obama.... :)<br><br>Wikipedia- faster than some news organizations! My God! I went to Wikipedia and the entry on there for Joe Biden already has him as the choice as VP for Obama…. :)

Wikipedia- faster than some news organizations!

]]> By: StockBoySF http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-139000 StockBoySF Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:09:56 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-139000 (Comment after the second update.)<br><br>"CNN is now officially reporting Biden has been offered the spot on the ticket. They cannot cite the official sources but the reporter indicates these are ‘very very solid sources’ that have confirmed Biden will be the nominee."<br><br>No doubt those "official sources" are ex-Hillaryites who leaked stuff from her campaign to the press and are now working for Obama.... snark, snark, snark, snark.... :)<br><br>My money is on Biden (and has been the last few days), but I would have supported Hillary as veep. (Comment after the second update.)

“CNN is now officially reporting Biden has been offered the spot on the ticket. They cannot cite the official sources but the reporter indicates these are ‘very very solid sources’ that have confirmed Biden will be the nominee.”

No doubt those “official sources” are ex-Hillaryites who leaked stuff from her campaign to the press and are now working for Obama…. snark, snark, snark, snark…. :)

My money is on Biden (and has been the last few days), but I would have supported Hillary as veep.

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-138995 kritt11 Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:02:54 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-138995 I personally think Obama should have picked Jim Webb-- or Sen Clinton for a stronger ticket. I personally think Obama should have picked Jim Webb– or Sen Clinton for a stronger ticket.

]]> By: kritt11 http://themoderatevoice.com/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/comment-page-1/#comment-138994 kritt11 Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:02:11 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/evan-bayh/21998/vp-rumors-and-rumblings/#comment-138994 I thought Biden would be Obama's pick for Secretary of State or Defense because of his years of expertise. I thought Biden would be Obama's pick for Secretary of State or Defense because of his years of expertise.

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